chaddyrovers Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, goozburger said: Critchley and Beale were both in work, but it's been suggested this morning that the pair were on the original shortlist. True, maybe Beale wouldn't cost to appoint cos maybe he had a clause his contract that he could walk away for nothing if some club approach them over him. 6 minutes ago, goozburger said: The club and supporters couldn't have stomached another day of him. It was well and truly over. Even if the next manager is worse on paper, we had to move on as a club. The situation was becoming unbearable and boring. Mowbray had to go. simple as. Lets not forget that he was responsible for us losing our playoff place/top 2 after being second in the league after the January Transfer window. 1
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chaddyrovers Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: What a depressing list of no marks. Would genuinely prefer Mowbray over most. so who would you prefer from that list over Mowbray then? Also What other options are there out there then if you think that list is depressing given what we know is that we want a out of work head coach, championship experience and probably someone who will work with some of the existing staff? 1
Popular Post Dreams of 1995 Posted June 6, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2022 I don’t follow other clubs managerial searches as closely as I’d follow Rovers. I think it’s important to start with that. Do other clubs go through several rounds of interviews? It seems absolutely insane you’d leave Farke or Carvalhal hanging whilst you waited to interview Warne or Ferguson. If you have either of them two ready to come on board surely you’d go for them? What can an interview demonstrate more than the successes they have had as coaches? I’m at an absolute loss as to how we have ANOTHER week of interviews. I mean for fuck sake. This is not how the real world works, I’m sorry. When you have a target identified you go and get them. That’s how sport works. The rest is just pure waffle and a sound bite to issue to local press to keep the hounds away. 13
BigUts Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 Without trawling back several pages of posts; has there been any further input from @glen9mullan since it was revealed Farke has gone elsewhere? Would be interesting to get some insight in to what appears to have gone on there! 5
phili Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, BigUts said: Without trawling back several pages of posts; has there been any further input from @glen9mullan since it was revealed Farke has gone elsewhere? Would be interesting to get some insight in to what appears to have gone on there! He's on holiday till next week 1
JHRover Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: so who would you prefer from that list over Mowbray then? Also What other options are there out there then if you think that list is depressing given what we know is that we want a out of work head coach, championship experience and probably someone who will work with some of the existing staff? We need to change our requirements and search if after over a month scouring the globe that's the best that they can come up with. Championship experience is only any use if its successful experience and relatively recent. Ainsworth and Warne both failures in their limited Championship careers. Jose Mourinho has no Championship experience- does he get overlooked? If the Club wants to hamstring itself by insisting existing staff are retained then that's their choice, but I won't support acts of self destruction and let's not pretend that things couldn't be done differently and for the better. Jobs for the boys at Brockhall though. 1
Guest Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, BigUts said: Without trawling back several pages of posts; has there been any further input from @glen9mullan since it was revealed Farke has gone elsewhere? Would be interesting to get some insight in to what appears to have gone on there! "Hi Swag, can I bring my own staff in?" "No, fuck off." "Ok. Well can we at least talk budgets?" "We have 47 interviewees to get through. How do you expect me to discuss budgets with you when their favourite colour might be better than yours?" "Ok."
Exiled_Rover Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: What a depressing list of no marks. Would genuinely prefer Mowbray over most. Steady on, now. I'd prefer my friend's Labrador over Mowbray - but yes, that's a depressing list. 2
LeftWinger Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Steady on, now. I'd prefer my friend's Labrador over Mowbray - but yes, that's a depressing list. At this rate, your friend's Labrador will be odds on favourite in a couple of weeks. 4
booth Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Steady on, now. I'd prefer my friend's Labrador over Mowbray - but yes, that's a depressing list. Is it able to work with the existing coaching staff and a DOF? 3
Popular Post oldjamfan1 Posted June 6, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2022 He can't hold on to a lead though 23
Tricky Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, booth said: Is it able to work with the existing coaching staff and a DOF? must also be able to work with... 3
SuperBrfc Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, goozburger said: Regardless of whether we think the procedure is right or not, I don't understand why it has been so widely publicised - that we're having this bunch of interviews this week, this bunch next week, extending the process, and so on. Surely the club won't have wanted that publicised. Can't see how it possibly helps the process when our laundry is being aired in the open for all to see. The way I see it is, that all of the above is to give off the impression that they are doing their very best, working to the bone to find the best man for the job. Thoroughly conducting the recruitment process by holding interview after interview. I think they very much want this idea to be publicised and put out there. "We've done all we can". I'm not buying it. If after all of this, they allow Farke and Carvalhal to pass them by and come up with Warne and Ainsworth instead...that says enough. 2
RevidgeBlue Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said: He can't hold on to a lead though He's got the job. Pre-requisite of the role if Mowbray's reign is anything to go by. 3
JHRover Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 The lack of communication from our so-called CEO since last season has been nothing short of a disgrace. First he stayed silent as Mowbray was left to face the press whilst the season was still going on. It then took over a fortnight between Mowbray saying he was leaving before the Club finally released a short statement confirming what we all knew. A month has gone by since without any communication. No interview, quotes, anything. Appalling. 7
Colt Seavers Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: I'd prefer my friend's Labrador over Mowbray He isn't called Kenny Dogleash by any chance is he? 7
booth Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Colt Seavers said: He isn't called Kenny Dogleash by any chance is he? 4
RevidgeBlue Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperBrfc said: The way I see it is, that all of the above is to give off the impression that they are doing their very best, working to the bone to find the best man for the job. Thoroughly conducting the recruitment process by holding interview after interview. I think they very much want this idea to be publicised and put out there. "We've done all we can". I'm not buying it. If after all of this, they allow Farke and Carvalhal to pass them by and come up with Warne and Ainsworth instead...that says enough. I wouldn't mind Ainsworth at all, but I was about to make a similar point. Allegedly we've had over 50 "serious" applicants for the role, and have conducted an exhaustiv process with several rounds of interviews. At various points the likes of Farke, Dyche , Carvalhal Jokanovic, Bilic and Hughton have also been out of work whilst we've conducted this supposedly exhaustive process. I wouldn't even be completely opposed to Ferguson either. After 5 years of the dour uninspiring Mowbray it could be a very refreshing change. However after making such a song and dance about going through such a painstaking process to make sure we find the right man I'd really expect a candidate of the calibre from the list above. There'd be a part of me that thought everyone down at Ewood was taking the piss if after such a long drawn out process we allowed the likes of Farke Carvahal and Critchley to slip through our grasp and appointed someone with no managerial experience like Ferguson. No disrespect to him as I think we could do a lot worse by hiring a proven failure of the Mowbray ilk like Pardew or Adkins but the general point still stands. Edited June 6, 2022 by RevidgeBlue 4
JBiz Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, JHRover said: The lack of communication from our so-called CEO since last season has been nothing short of a disgrace. First he stayed silent as Mowbray was left to face the press whilst the season was still going on. It then took over a fortnight between Mowbray saying he was leaving before the Club finally released a short statement confirming what we all knew. A month has gone by since without any communication. No interview, quotes, anything. Appalling. Do you genuinely expect the club to be sending you an update every few days with exactly what is going on behind the scenes? Lets not mix this up - I agree with you on the problems of the club, the way it’s run with a vacuum between “boots on the ground” and the eventual decision makers. What I don’t understand or agree with is this expectation that everything should be signposted and/or given out in press releases. I don’t remember that happening at any club, never mind our own. You know as well as I do, most owners of clubs just use PR and copywriters to create a blanket release to cover most scenarios, “We thank such and such for his service” etc. If there is a club out there, that releases articulate press and news every week, even if the update would be “well we’ve started trying to hire a manager, but no luck yet”… I would be surprised. I think it would do you and a lot of others some good to switch off and just wait to make your mind up when it’s eventually released. 4
Popular Post tomphil Posted June 6, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2022 The odd update or the wheels are moving speak wouldn't do any harm. Ok it wouldn't reveal much but this is a professional football club with wide public interest. And it's trying to sell season tickets, changing manager is quite a big deal and the club has bad rep for poor communication. In recent past we haven't even had a CEO to look to but now we have he's completely gone to ground, again. There are times the club etc gets beaten by sticks that you can argue is just for the sake of it. This isn't one of those, it's poor at best and to be honest ignorant at worst just showing again it isn't about the fans. It's all about those who fund and play with it just doing what they always do. 11
Gavrover Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 Blackpool already have their replacement lined up.. whats that a week (with a 4 day weekend) ? 5
Popular Post Iceman Posted June 6, 2022 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Mercer said: With all due respect to the likes of Ainsworth and Warne, I think it's symptomatic of the fears in the fan base about another botched appointment. Even Carvalhal and Farke wouldn't have merited a mention in the halcyon days of Jack. Feck me, we are Blackburn Rovers, a club with great history, traditions and relative recent success (PL, League Cup, Europe qualification). We don't want any more 'steady Eddies' with delusional journey plans in their heads, we don't want, IMO,'has beens' / 'never have beens' like Adkins / Graysons, we don't want, IMO, no hopers like Woodgate, we want someone who is going to ignite the passions of the club and its fans, someone with hunger, aggression and a will to simply win. We may have to roll the dice, take a chance in order to give us some hope of a better, brighter and more exciting future. Surely that is better than continuing in the moribund state we find our beloved Rovers in. I think one of the things lost to many of our fans, specifically the more younger ones, is that they feel as if we are just a small town club now, and that's it. Granted that we are in relation to the bigger clubs with bigger fan bases, but this club is steeped in history. Who cares if we punched above our weight, who cares if we can't spend big money, this club shouldn't be settling for just anybody just because we are in the Championship. We are fucking Blackburn Rovers, former PL champions. The mindset of these wankers ie Venkys and Waggot, makes us believe that we should accept mediocrity every year. We shouldn't. Do we have zero ambition anymore? Have we accepted our position, as a Championship club forever? Fuck Venkys, Fuck Waggot.. any half arsed owner would have had us promoted by now. 21
RevidgeBlue Posted June 6, 2022 Posted June 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, tomphil said: The odd update or the wheels are moving speak wouldn't do any harm. Ok it wouldn't reveal much but this is a professional football club with wide public interest. And it's trying to sell season tickets, changing manager is quite a big deal and the club has bad rep for poor communication. In recent past we haven't even had a CEO to look to but now we have he's completely gone to ground, again. There are times the club etc gets beaten by sticks that you can argue is just for the sake of it. This isn't one of those, it's poor at best and to be honest ignorant at worst just showing again it isn't about the fans. It's all about those who fund and play with it just doing what they always do. They are releasing titbits about the progress with the search (such as it is) to the likes of Sharpe anyway. The worry has to be that several weeks in, we don't on the face of it appear to be any further on. And all this whilst the owners have the wherewithal to go straight in and make an offer that can not be refused to their preferred candidate anyway. 2
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