Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[rover23]

8 minutes ago, Butty said:

Big Dunc into favourite on SkyBet now. They’ve obviously re-adjusted the odds after Mercer’s big lump yesterday. 

Wouldn’t be surprised if he did get it, he’s been on the list since mid April! 

[Torgeir]

3 minutes ago, rover23 said:

Wouldn’t be surprised if he did get it, he’s been on the list since mid April! 

Hopefully Venky’s reject Big Dunc like Dikembe Mutombo. 

[Miller11]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes I think we should relax as we have to 2 weeks before the players. So I hope and think Rovers will make an appointment this week for head coach position here. That would give the head coach a week or so to sort out pre season training, sort the coaching staff out. Then we sort out the Sporting Director role

On the day of the Birmingham game, earlier if I remember correctly, you were repeatedly saying it was essential we made an appointment within 2 weeks, and you were confident it would happen. You wouldn't entertain the idea it might drag beyond that when anyone pointed out it likely would.

Now when it’s apparent we are still miles off, and your deadline has passed, you’ve done another U turn, there’s no rush and we should all relax.

[Hi Mack]

42 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I just hope Mowbray is sat at home with his gurner on his chest! He should be realising his stubbornness and failure to do what was basic football principals cost him glory and his team promotion! He will forever regret his attitude and failure to heed advice because of his big fat smoggy head🤬🤬🤬

Watching the PO final has made me angry again. I don’t believe Forest are any better than us and Huddersfield certainly aren’t. 
they’ve both had managers that are tactically savvy and they’ve won/drawn games where they should have dropped points. 
 

What a waste of a season.

I am Hoping a a new manager brings fresh hope.

 

Does anyone actually have the 8 names without educated guesswork? This appointment is huge, like a lot of clubs we are one bad appointment away from a championship struggle.

[1864roverite]

21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Do you have any evidence or tangible signs of this plan, of this progress, of this ongoing work? 

Do you think based on the last 12 years that people are unjustified in being what you perceive to be negative?

Not particularly the last 12 but in the last 3 years there is progress

[1864roverite]

19 minutes ago, Gav said:

These owners have known for months Mowbray wouldn’t be staying, any normal club with a plan would have had a manager sounded out, if not in place before the season ended. 

Not if the said manager was still in employment! Huge difference to what you are suggesting

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Not particularly the last 12 but in the last 3 years there is progress

I am not convinced.

[1864roverite]

We’ve just finished 8th and have played some excellent football at times. That is measured progress Imo. Yes Mowbray cocked it all up with his bitchfest but despite this I still see it as progress. 

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

We’ve just finished 8th and have played some excellent football at times. That is measured progress Imo. Yes Mowbray cocked it all up with his bitchfest but despite this I still see it as progress. 

You are looking at it with massive bias, not acknowledging that Mowbray ultimately was responsible for finishing 8th across the season, on the back of a summer whereby Venkys totally withheld any reinvestment of funds generated. You can't just put the first half of the season down as signs of progress across the whole club, but solely blame Mowbray for the way it ended. Across the season, we finished 8th, and Mowbray was the manager throughout.

And before conversation is skewed, I am well aware that it was the way in which the season went that caused such frustration and I am glad that he has now gone.

You touched upon progression throughout the whole club and how it operates, separate to how we did last season, but haven't explained what that progress is. You also didn't answer whether any underlying negativity as you call it is justified.

 

[chaddyrovers]

29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Well not clearly, not every rumour is correct and maybe its just another instance of Nixon talking shite!

In your desperation for gossip, you have even started today using Mercer as genuine evidence of certain things!

I have stated my view on this and I can't be anymore clearly than I have been. Beale is staying at Villa now. 

Wrong, I used Mercer posts plus a number of other people posts on here and other sites to posted about Ferguson. 

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Hopefully the odds mean nothing as is often the case, because he would be a terrible appointment in my opinion, and totally not what is needed. Although even when we lost games, many focused more on Mowbray's demeanour so regardless of results, at least hed be running up and down the touchline.

well clearly people are betting on him for a reason. Maybe its what people read on forums or social media but maybe its someone with inside info from the club. 

I don't know if it will be terrible appointment or not but I am willing to have an open mind on it. I think there is worst appointment out there we could make. He could be the next Mark Hughes but equalling he could be then next Brian Kidd. 

[aletheia]

So brfcs fans on this board “fail to think logically.”

I see.

So logically, Sam was removed.

Logically, Keane was appointed.

Logically, Coyle was appointed.

And most logically of all, the paradox of all paradoxes, Venky’s brief to Waggott is to save money at all costs, which translates to a cheap ineffective manager (Mowbray plucked from obscurity) with nondescript backroom staff leading to mediocrity at all levels (cost £20 million plus per season) when a decent injection of cash, sensible manager and management could lead to promotion, greater cash rewards and a face-saving withdrawal.

(Insert your own conspiracy theory here as to the reason for this paradox –interfering agents, incompetence, ineptitude, a desire to hide uncomfortable truths about the takeover and the blushes of the FA, a permanent way to flush tax losses.)

I think logic and this club are not in the same universe.

[Miller11]

33 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

slate the work ongoing at the ground, the training centre, the academy, the ticket office and commercialism, the shirt colours, the fans and everything else just doesn’t add up to being correct or right in any shape or form. 

Just on these points:

The ground is in a dreadful state. It looks shabby from the outside and on closer inspection in parts it’s severely dilapidated. Occasionally being shamed into skipping piles of debris is nothing to celebrate.

The training ground that they tried to build houses on and transferred the ownership of? Brilliant.

I’ll give you the academy. The one bit of Jack’s legacy they haven’t disgraced yet. Mind you, it’s more than paid for itself under Venky’s reign of terror.

The ticket office… dear me. It’s barely ever open. I hope you aren’t including our record low season ticket sales as a reason to be cheerful.

Commercialism. We lost our shirt sponsor midway through the season and had to go cap in hand to a vaping company based about half a mile from Ewood. Our commercial revenue figures are pathetic. Most of the advertising hoardings at Ewood display that nauseating  Venky’s logo.

The shirt colours??? What on earth are you banging on about here? I suppose the fact they have stuck with blue and white halves and haven’t got us playing in yellow and pink polka dots is something of a plus. Or are you referring to the shirts that we didn’t order enough of and took an age to get on sale?

The fans? You must be benchmarking ticket sales against the season we played behind closed doors, because by any other metric our attendances are poor, and more fans are walking away all the time.

You’re talking utter rubbish.

[Gav]

23 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Not if the said manager was still in employment! Huge difference to what you are suggesting

Not really 1864, even a manager in current employment would have been 'tapped up' by the agents, thats how football works.

[Gav]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You are looking at it with massive bias, not acknowledging that Mowbray ultimately was responsible for finishing 8th across the season, on the back of a summer whereby Venkys totally withheld any reinvestment of funds generated.

Those comments sound to me like a CEO looking to save his skin.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

We’ve just finished 8th and have played some excellent football at times. That is measured progress Imo. Yes Mowbray cocked it all up with his bitchfest but despite this I still see it as progress. 

Yes we have seen progress on the pitch but last season Mowbray's stubborn and lack of willingness to adapt and change his tactics and formation cost us our playoff place. Plus he has more backing from the owners on signings, time and patience to achieved this in one of the his 4 years in charge of us since our league 1 promotion. Also we were 2nd when the January transfer closed and we still didn't make the playoffs. 

As you have posted this week, Rovers are installing a new weaved pitch, proper communication from the club on when the coming season kits will be available for sale. Then over the season we seen the good work the Rovers community trust have done in bringing young children and parents to games who normally wouldn't come. 

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

I disagree Khod, of course there is a plan, a process and a thinking method of who to give the job to! It’s all fair and well the experts on brfcs.com having their views but the reality is Rovers are making every effort to put the right people in place to manage the first team with a view to progression and promotion. Just because some may constantly take a negative view on what is happening, fail to think logically, blame everyone under the sun, slam the owners and Waggot, dismiss Pasha as a board member without authority, slate the work ongoing at the ground, the training centre, the academy, the ticket office and commercialism, the shirt colours, the fans and everything else just doesn’t add up to being correct or right in any shape or form. Yes we have seen some right fuck ups and some mad decisions that have cost them a packet but to simply refuse to think that history will just repeat itself is a complete nonsense if you ask me. Mowbray progressed the team and then ultimately ruined the best chance ever to take the team up. He has had the backing, the money and yet stubbornness cost him dearly! If you think the owners will not have seen the progress on the pitch again I think that is utter nonsense! 

I’m basing this on Venky’s tenure. Didn’t think it was that deep tbh…

[Mattyblue]

31 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Just on these points:

The ground is in a dreadful state. It looks shabby from the outside and on closer inspection in parts it’s severely dilapidated. Occasionally being shamed into skipping piles of debris is nothing to celebrate.

The training ground that they tried to build houses on and transferred the ownership of? Brilliant.

I’ll give you the academy. The one bit of Jack’s legacy they haven’t disgraced yet. Mind you, it’s more than paid for itself under Venky’s reign of terror.

The ticket office… dear me. It’s barely ever open. I hope you aren’t including our record low season ticket sales as a reason to be cheerful.

Commercialism. We lost our shirt sponsor midway through the season and had to go cap in hand to a vaping company based about half a mile from Ewood. Our commercial revenue figures are pathetic. Most of the advertising hoardings at Ewood display that nauseating  Venky’s logo.

The shirt colours??? What on earth are you banging on about here? I suppose the fact they have stuck with blue and white halves and haven’t got us playing in yellow and pink polka dots is something of a plus. Or are you referring to the shirts that we didn’t order enough of and took an age to get on sale?

The fans? You must be benchmarking ticket sales against the season we played behind closed doors, because by any other metric our attendances are poor, and more fans are walking away all the time.

You’re talking utter rubbish.

You’ve saved me a post.

Amazing how a certain poster is so easily placated with a bit of corporate guff in an Ewood meeting room whilst ignoring the actual tangible evidence that shows a club in a big a hole as ever…

Edited May 29, 2022 by Mattyblue

[roversfan99]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have stated my view on this and I can't be anymore clearly than I have been. Beale is staying at Villa now. 

Wrong, I used Mercer posts plus a number of other people posts on here and other sites to posted about Ferguson. 

well clearly people are betting on him for a reason. Maybe its what people read on forums or social media but maybe its someone with inside info from the club. 

I don't know if it will be terrible appointment or not but I am willing to have an open mind on it. I think there is worst appointment out there we could make. He could be the next Mark Hughes but equalling he could be then next Brian Kidd. 

There are occasions when odds will suddenly tumble to odds on prior to an appointment but especially in a small market like our next manager, it doesnt take much/many bets to cause significant changes in odds. The other day, Wagner suddenly appeared quite high in the betting odds because someone on here asked for the odds. Today, Beale was at 12s presumably because of Nixons nonsense, hours later its reported that he isnt leaving.

Ferguson would be a totally bizarre appointment. He is a total novice and that is not what we need at this time. Its not even as if hes gone to League 1 or League 2 and done well, it would be an unnecessary and probably cheap gamble when there are managers available with decent track records. Lazy comparisons can be made to rookies appointed years and years ago but I am solely looking at Ferguson. Hopefully he is not in the running and hasnt even been interviewed.

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes we have seen progress on the pitch but last season Mowbray's stubborn and lack of willingness to adapt and change his tactics and formation cost us our playoff place. Plus he has more backing from the owners on signings, time and patience to achieved this in one of the his 4 years in charge of us since our league 1 promotion. Also we were 2nd when the January transfer closed and we still didn't make the playoffs. 

As you have posted this week, Rovers are installing a new weaved pitch, proper communication from the club on when the coming season kits will be available for sale. Then over the season we seen the good work the Rovers community trust have done in bringing young children and parents to games who normally wouldn't come. 

The weaved pitch seems to be just the general yearly maintenance done despite last year Waggott saying that the pitch was getting relaid after 30 years only for the owners to change their mind and not pay for it. The work targeting the asian community is good but ultimately the overall attendances at the moment are poor oweing to fundamental failings on that side of things.

[martonrover]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Ferguson
 

I don’t want Ferguson, but I can’t help but chuckle that he’s the polar opposite of Mowbray 🙂

I’d forgotten what he got up to years ago.  Blimey 😂

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

There are occasions when odds will suddenly tumble to odds on prior to an appointment but especially in a small market like our next manager, it doesnt take much/many bets to cause significant changes in odds. The other day, Wagner suddenly appeared quite high in the betting odds because someone on here asked for the odds. Today, Beale was at 12s presumably because of Nixons nonsense, hours later its reported that he isnt leaving.

Firstly, I fully understand and know how betting and odds works. 

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Ferguson would be a totally bizarre appointment. He is a total novice and that is not what we need at this time. Its not even as if hes gone to League 1 or League 2 and done well, it would be an unnecessary and probably cheap gamble when there are managers available with decent track records. Lazy comparisons can be made to rookies appointed years and years ago but I am solely looking at Ferguson. Hopefully he is not in the running and hasnt even been interviewed.

Well you have seen posted from @Bbrovers2288, @Mercer on here plus I have seen a number of people posted he has been interviewed as I posted earlier today. 

On his appointment or most appointment I will have open mind on them and lets see what they do in the Rovers dugout. I have no idea what type of formation, style of play or what his coaching is like. 

10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The weaved pitch seems to be just the general yearly maintenance done despite last year Waggott saying that the pitch was getting relaid after 30 years only for the owners to change their mind and not pay for it. The work targeting the asian community is good but ultimately the overall attendances at the moment are poor oweing to fundamental failings on that side of things.

well if you look at what 1864 has posted about it seems like they has been major investment in the pitch and lighting. 

I would say targeting all areas of the community is very good and needs to be continue and investing in. 

Lets see what the ST sales are for the coming season and I will comment on then

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

Am I the only person surprised that the most vociferous Mowbray Out posters in days gone by are now shocked and outraged to discover we have a slow, unambitious, cheap approach run by powerless clowns to recruit his successor? He had to go but let’s not pretend this process ever had a chance of being better than it is. The dice have been well and truly rolled.

But a lot of people wanted those dice rolled and what we are seeing now is the gamble. That's the name of the game and we know it won't land on double 6.

We just pray it's better than double 3 for once.

[roversfan99]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, I fully understand and know how betting and odds works. 

Well you have seen posted from @Bbrovers2288, @Mercer on here plus I have seen a number of people posted he has been interviewed as I posted earlier today. 

On his appointment or most appointment I will have open mind on them and lets see what they do in the Rovers dugout. I have no idea what type of formation, style of play or what his coaching is like. 

well if you look at what 1864 has posted about it seems like they has been major investment in the pitch and lighting. 

I would say targeting all areas of the community is very good and needs to be continue and investing in. 

Lets see what the ST sales are for the coming season and I will comment on then

Again, not only taking everything as gospel but backing up your comments by using Mercer's post as evidence! He has a track record of posting duff information on here, as you regularly state yourself.

[martonrover]

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well you have seen posted from @Bbrovers2288, @Mercer on here plus I have seen a number of people posted he has been interviewed as I posted earlier today. 

As you know, Mr Nixon has stated that no contact has been made.

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

On his appointment or most appointment I will have open mind on them and lets see what they do in the Rovers dugout. I have no idea what type of formation, style of play or what his coaching is like

If he gets it, the  fact that no-one has a clue whether or not he would make a decent manager makes our process of interviewing eight others seem even more ridiculous.

He’d be getting it because he’s the cheap option, and because of people pushing him to Venkys.

Edited May 29, 2022 by martonrover

[unsall]

1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

Just on these points:

The ground is in a dreadful state. It looks shabby from the outside and on closer inspection in parts it’s severely dilapidated. Occasionally being shamed into skipping piles of debris is nothing to celebrate.

The training ground that they tried to build houses on and transferred the ownership of? Brilliant.

I’ll give you the academy. The one bit of Jack’s legacy they haven’t disgraced yet. Mind you, it’s more than paid for itself under Venky’s reign of terror.

The ticket office… dear me. It’s barely ever open. I hope you aren’t including our record low season ticket sales as a reason to be cheerful.

Commercialism. We lost our shirt sponsor midway through the season and had to go cap in hand to a vaping company based about half a mile from Ewood. Our commercial revenue figures are pathetic. Most of the advertising hoardings at Ewood display that nauseating  Venky’s logo.

The shirt colours??? What on earth are you banging on about here? I suppose the fact they have stuck with blue and white halves and haven’t got us playing in yellow and pink polka dots is something of a plus. Or are you referring to the shirts that we didn’t order enough of and took an age to get on sale?

The fans? You must be benchmarking ticket sales against the season we played behind closed doors, because by any other metric our attendances are poor, and more fans are walking away all the time.

You’re talking utter rubbish.

Can’t believe how many on here will rubbish the club in everything they do.Regarding  the strip it’s the first time for years that most fans thought all 3 strips were excellent. We had a great sponsor and it certainly wasn’t Rovers fault they went down it was due to the pandemic..I’m convinced some on here can’t bring themselves to credit the club when they do something right due to their dislike of the owners/ management.

We all know they have made some massive cock ups, but we are where we are.

Same with getting a new manager there seems to loads on here saying they won’t get a season ticket if so and so gets the job, pathetic really, you back the club and if the manager turns out to be crap then use your voice to get rid, similar to Ince when he was appointed……

 

[Mattyblue]

So Miller’s assessment is inaccurate? 

Sounds like if you refuse to accept mediocrity and want better for the club you are ‘negative’. Whilst if you merely accept the status quo and the non entities that run it, those that have overseen Miller’s said assessment you are ‘positive’.

How Orwellian…