47er Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 11 hours ago, roverandout said: The last time we appointed a Blackpool manager of Little experience it didn't work out too well. We need someone who has promotions from the championship on their cv. Getting out this league is the be all and end all That doesn't mean that if we made a similar appointment from Blackpool this time, the result would be the same. Lack of logic there. 1
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roversfan99 Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 Doesnt make sense that Venkys are interviewing people then passing them back down to those on the ground, whilst allowing them to interview others themselves. Seems illogical and inefficient even for owners as bad as ours. 2
RevidgeBlue Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: They have a trusted circle not agent related, i won't elaborate anymore on that, I probably say more than I should as it is, and dont want to break trust lines So you don't like it when people spread "We know something you don't know type gossip" but you don't mind doing it when it's your own!
glen9mullan Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Doesnt make sense that Venkys are interviewing people then passing them back down to those on the ground, whilst allowing them to interview others themselves. Seems illogical and inefficient even for owners as bad as ours. Its not unusual at rovers, its how Appleton was appointed
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: They have a trusted circle not agent related, i won't elaborate anymore on that, I probably say more than I should as it is, and dont want to break trust lines Bout time they just officially appointed you as a 'fan liason manager' or something along those lines, if that's something that would interest you! 2
Popular Post glen9mullan Posted May 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So you don't like it when people spread "We know something you don't know type gossip" but you don't mind doing it when it's your own! Behave, i'm not going to exactly reveal trusted sources names on a message board and potentially break off what little direct contact we have. I do trust what i'm told and share anything of substance. For example i did say Rothwell was going nowhere, even the papers had him signing on the dotted line at Bouremouth, I stuck to what I knew to the best of my knowledge, and he didnt go. As many will probably support, i do have my ears to the ground on many fronts, be that employees, agents, players, ex players, managers, Journo's, advisors, the Rao's, their closest friends, FA officials. I was reporting on rovers things long before the Venkys arrived, its one of the main advantages we had during the protest years, we always knew what was going on, and were always one step ahead. Perhaps as you seem to know it all, going forwards i will remain silent and let you and you merry men inform us of whats going on? Edited May 30, 2022 by glen9mullan 14
glen9mullan Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Bout time they just officially appointed you as a 'fan liason manager' or something along those lines, if that's something that would interest you! I've no interest in working in football, at rovers or anywhere else. I've done my time in the supporter groups and enjoy the freedom of being allowed my own opinion, and being able to say what im thinking rather than having to bite my tongue. 3
Butty Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 On 26/05/2022 at 01:35, chaddyrovers said: Looks like Carlos Carvalhal will be our head coach(from reports) and I would be delighted by that news. He is good coach who is tactically aware, bring through youth and knows this league. He is the kind of appointment that could take us to PL. He will need some sort of financial support backing to take us there but it's a very exciting appointment. Carlos Carvalhal's Blue and White Army 🔵⚪️ Do Al Wahda play in Blue and White? Reports suggesting Carvalhal is taking over there on a one year deal. Sorry to bring this post back up Chadster but I did say it could bite you in the arse. At least you can go back to your original pick for the job which was Farke. 😉 We all need to pray Farke gets the gig now as the rest of the names linked are absolute shite. David Unsworth and Duncan Ferguson? As Roy Keane would say, Do me a favour! 8
RevidgeBlue Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: The new dawn if it happens has zero to do with anything which has been said on here previously. This new dawn we've all been waiting for has not materialised. The fact that talks with Farke occurred before Ewood got a sniff, points to a massive change in direction, which have certainly not materialised with Swaggott at the wheel, All the things we've been reading on here are the lip service from the corridors of ewood? If and its a big if, there is a boardroom clear out, do you think this was what was promised, given those who have religiously preached this on here have zero direct contact with the owners. If they did, then we'd be applauding onto the pitch Wenger and Dein would we not? I'd be delighted with Farke as the new manager, which i've already commented to both Bala and Amit. He is exactly the type of appointment which would be recieved very well by the majority. I'm like anyone else on here, I want a well run club, run by football people, with the clubs best interest at heart. I love our club, probably too much, but any good news is great news You're obviously trying to belittle the efforts of various people who have taken the trouble to contact the Club to discuss matters here and I think you're being extremely unfair. There's a genuine will and desire on all sides to edge the Club in the right direction and whilst I personally don't thing think things are motoring on at the pace 1864 would have you believe, everyone is acting in good faith and it may just be that the discussions and advice are permeating through the consciousness of one or two people in authority. I'd have to reiterate again, Mowbray gone, Venus gone, Park gone (probably) - if there's a really good managerial appointment along the lines of Farke and he's allowed to bring in his own staff, I'd regard that as massive progress personally. Edited May 30, 2022 by RevidgeBlue 4
Butty Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You're obviously trying to belittle the efforts of various people who have taken the trouble to contact the Club to discuss matters here and I think you're being extremely unfair. There's a genuine will and desire on all sides to edge the Club in the right direction and whilst I personally don't thing think things are motoring on at the pace 1864 would have you believe, everyone is acting in good faith and it may just be that the discussions and advice are permeating through the consciousness of one or two people in authority. I'd have to reiterate again, Mowbray gone, Venus gone, Park gone (probably) - if there's a really good managerial appointment along the lines of Farke and he's allowed to bring in his own staff, I'd regard that as massive progress personally. I think every rovers fan would see that as huge progress but it’s the biggest “if” in football! 8
RevidgeBlue Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: I'd be delighted with Farke as the new manager, which i've already commented to both Bala and Amit. He is exactly the type of appointment which would be recieved very well by the majority. So how did the owners receive this ringing endorsement? It's a bit like Ancelotti ringing up to promote the claims of big Dunc really isn't it! 2nd para, completely agree and kudos to you if it comes off as established journalists pooh poohed it from the off.
Popular Post bluebruce Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Posted May 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So you don't like it when people spread "We know something you don't know type gossip" but you don't mind doing it when it's your own! 39 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: Behave, i'm not going to exactly reveal trusted sources names on a message board and potentially break off what little direct contact we have. Perhaps as you seem to know it all, going forwards i will remain silent and let you and you merry men inform us of whats going on? I have to agree with Glen here, behave. We have enough pointless arguing about ITKs. Glen has given us quite a lot of specifics that he says he has heard. Even the point you were pulling him up on was semi-specific at the least. He told us something about the decision making structure. He didn't say he knew something then not say anything about what it was, like all the 'changes are happening but I'm not even going to allude to what kind, but cheer up anyway because it'll be good' tripe we were getting from some a few months back. He said there are a set of advisors inbetween Ewood and Pune, and that they're not agents. That's information, whether people believe the information or not. It isn't vague nothings just because he didn't divulge everything about what he's heard. We don't need some more circular back and forth sniping arguments. 19
glen9mullan Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: You're obviously trying to belittle the efforts of various people who have taken the trouble to contact the Club to discuss matters here and I think you're being extremely unfair. There's a genuine will and desire on all sides to edge the Club in the right direction and whilst I personally don't thing think things are motoring on at the pace 1864 would have you believe, everyone is acting in good faith and it may just be that the discussions and advice are permeating through the consciousness of one or two people in authority. I'd have to reiterate again, Mowbray gone, Venus gone, Park gone (probably) - if there's a really good managerial appointment along the lines of Farke and he's allowed to bring in his own staff, I'd regard that as massive progress personally. I have zero issue with anyone putting their time and effort to try and communicate with the club. Many have gone down this route, only to leave very disappointed when they've genuinely believed there has been progress. Genuine question, do you know how many times the board at Ewood have promised to set up a meeting with certain supporters and even indicated its going to happen? I know of five. Do you recall the Pune 9, and how angry they were that they'd been set up in india? My issue, is the mandate of such discussions as nothing has been forthcoming everytime either I or others have asked. All i've had is they believe they are wiser and have greater contacts. What is the long term goal? If a meeting with the Rao's occurred, what is the message, what do they want to achieve and why? Who do they represent, as its going to be a burning question of the Raos? Who of any any real substance, is supporting the movement, remembering the class culture which the Raos are part of? I will give 1864 his dues, he at least post what he believes and is clear, he represents himself and no-one else. He has stuck his head above the parapet, and i know only too well what grief comes with that. Its a case of "put up, or shut up" Your last paragraph I totally agree with providing we do indeed appoint a manager of Farkes Ilk, and a board who can actually run the club like a normal club, with the correct values, and its heritage at the forefront always. Finally the motto of the below, which incidentally club employees use quite often on social media, is very much the message I remind myself daily. Incidentally one of the clubs largest sponsors designed this badge, who cant even get an audience with the owners, despite him being one of their biggest financial backers in terms of money he puts into the club through sponsorship. Edited May 31, 2022 by glen9mullan 3
roversinmyblood Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: I have zero issue with anyone putting their time and effort to try and communicate with the club. Many have gone down this route, only to leave very disappointed when they've genuinely believed there has been progress. Genuine question, do you know how many times the board at Ewood have promised to set up a meeting with certain supporters and even indicated its going to happen? I know of five. Do you recall the Pune 9, and how angry they were that they'd been set up in india? My issue, is the mandate of such discussions as nothing has been forthcoming everytime either I or others have asked. All i've had is they believe they are wiser and have greater contacts. What is the long term goal? If a meeting with the Rao's occurred, what is the message, what do they want to achieve and why? Who do they represent, as its going to be a burning question of the Raos? Who of any any real substance, is supporting the movement, remembering the class culture which the Raos are part of? I will give 1864 his dues, he at least post what he believes and is clear, he represents himself and no-one else. He has stuck his head above the parapet, and i know only too well what grief comes with that. Its a case of "put up, or shut up" Your last paragraph I totally agree with providing we do indeed appoint a manager of Farkes Ilk, and a board who can actually run the club like a normal club, with the correct values, and its heritage at the forefront always Hi Glen are you confident about the new season? If Farke comes as you have predicted, do you think that he can do for Rovers what he did for Norwich? By that I mean get us promoted and playing exciting football. How high do rate the chance of Waggot etc Pulling off the signing of Farke and his back room staff?
Popular Post glen9mullan Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, roversinmyblood said: Hi Glen are you confident about the new season? If Farke comes as you have predicted, do you think that he can do for Rovers what he did for Norwich? By that I mean get us promoted and playing exciting football. How high do rate the chance of Waggot etc Pulling off the signing of Farke and his back room staff? I think we have a mammoth task this summer. Lots of players have left either through non renewal of contracts or loans expired. Our top scorer is in his last year of his contract and will likely be sold. The season starts much earlier, and with each day that passes without a manager, our task becomes harder. The new manager will need to time to assess what we have, what we need and potential targets. The budget is again likely to be limited, which means every signing must count. Farke has an excellent record with young players, being an ex striker, I suspect in that final third he will get us far more dangerous when we have the ball in those areas. He has two promotions in two attempts in the championship. He has been Championship and LMA manager of the year. He has struggled when promoted to the prem, but very few who do go up, actually stay up nowadays, the gulf is that big. I've never spoken to Waggott, have never found the need. I'm unsure how he would come across during interviews, although i've seen some of his interviews/press conferences and i've not been overly impressed. I think rovers is an easy sell, we finished 8th this past season, have a relatively young squad, top academy, and the need to sign players to compliment that is there. I think importantly if they can get this over the line, there is going to be excitement within the supporter base, as this would arguably be the best appointment since V's took over. Hopefully the excitement does not boil over into too much expectation. I think he can get us up, but would need two seasons to do so, there is too much needed in a short window to realistically think we go up next season. I'm genuinely excited, hopeful, we get these appointments right but realistic with my expectations next season as we are going to need 10 players to have a full squad Edited May 31, 2022 by glen9mullan 11
Upside Down Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 Fortunately after 12 years of this shite there isn’t much on the expectation front anymore. 3
Popular Post Bbrovers2288 Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, glen9mullan said: Behave, i'm not going to exactly reveal trusted sources names on a message board and potentially break off what little direct contact we have. I do trust what i'm told and share anything of substance. For example i did say Rothwell was going nowhere, even the papers had him signing on the dotted line at Bouremouth, I stuck to what I knew to the best of my knowledge, and he didnt go. As many will probably support, i do have my ears to the ground on many fronts, be that employees, agents, players, ex players, managers, Journo's, advisors, the Rao's, their closest friends, FA officials. I was reporting on rovers things long before the Venkys arrived, its one of the main advantages we had during the protest years, we always knew what was going on, and were always one step ahead. Perhaps as you seem to know it all, going forwards i will remain silent and let you and you merry men inform us of whats going on? Do always laugh when folk challenge you to reveal sources , like they would even know who they are. For the record I have no reason to doubt Glen in what he posts albeit I may hear differently. Lucky to have him here imo 20
Backroom Tom Posted May 31, 2022 Backroom Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Enough of this manager talk, back to the topic at hand, forum ads I’m over in Orlando at the moment and just checking in on how things have moved on in the last couple of weeks and get greeted by this monstrosity that takes up silly amounts of screen real estate - plus hasn’t Bernie been dead a good decade? https://ibb.co/JcbZ4kY Edited May 31, 2022 by Tom 6
Lancs Rover Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 9 hours ago, bluebruce said: If I refresh the page, it just pops back up immediately on the new page. It also slows down the scrolling considerably for me. Very irritating and I've just closed the site for a few hours a few times due to it. I use Ghostery browser. No issues.
Torgeir Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 Whoever gets the gig will certainly have their hands full and first thing on the agenda must be to sort out the futures of Brereton, Lenihan and Nyambe. I think they would all relish playing under Farke. If those three are staying we have a solid foundation for the coming season, if not then I agree with Glen that it will take a season of building before mounting a serious promotion challenge. Knowing how long deals take to sanction, and the wages we offer, it’s not exactly a quick build. Glen, who decided the DoF/manager model? Are Venky’s and Waggott both on the same page in that department?
Ossydave Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Torgeir said: Whoever gets the gig will certainly have their hands full and first thing on the agenda must be to sort out the futures of Brereton, Lenihan and Nyambe. Isn't that the job of the DOF, if we get one
Torgeir Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ossydave said: Isn't that the job of the DOF, if we get one Yeah, but if rumours are to be believed then Lenihan is waiting to see who is appointed and hopefully Nyambe can be swayed too. No need for a DoF here as the work is already in progress. Breo is a much bigger decision but I’m guessing the coach will want to have his say…
glen9mullan Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Torgeir said: Whoever gets the gig will certainly have their hands full and first thing on the agenda must be to sort out the futures of Brereton, Lenihan and Nyambe. I think they would all relish playing under Farke. If those three are staying we have a solid foundation for the coming season, if not then I agree with Glen that it will take a season of building before mounting a serious promotion challenge. Knowing how long deals take to sanction, and the wages we offer, it’s not exactly a quick build. Glen, who decided the DoF/manager model? Are Venky’s and Waggott both on the same page in that department? I dont know is the honest answer 1
JHRover Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 So starting to look like it is Farke or bust for me. Sounds like Carvalhal has decided to go to the UAE for a year so we've missed the boat there whether through our own decision making or him getting fed up of waiting. None of the other names in the betting come close to Farke or Carvalhal. There are a few small but intriguing names the rest are nothing short of abysmal. I just hope they have a plan here because I'm getting a feeling of deja vu and expect some horrendous name to get the job just before pre season starts. 2
Ossydave Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, Torgeir said: Yeah, but if rumours are to be believed then Lenihan is waiting to see who is appointed and hopefully Nyambe can be swayed too. No need for a DoF here as the work is already in progress. Breo is a much bigger decision but I’m guessing the coach will want to have his say… I'm not so sure I believe those rumours to be honest. There's an argument both were waiting to see what league we were in, and/or if they got any better offers from elsewhere. As far as we know there hasn't been much talk of offers coming to fruition. Unless Mowbray is a bare faced liar (possible tbf) he had a good relationship with both, not so sure on Rothwell as he seemed to like having sly digs at him, plus I think he definitely wanted out himself.
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