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I can see Ash Philips coming into the fold this season judging by Broughtons comments about bringing youth into the first team as early as possible 

 

Thats assuming this kid is the boy wonder that he's been made out to be and that he's not poached by a bigger club (to rot in their reserves for years) 

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1 minute ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

I can see Asg Philips com8ng 8nto the fold this season judging by Broughton comments about bringing youth into the first team as early as possible 

 

Thats assuming this kid is the boy wonder that he's been made out to be and that he's not poached by a bigger club (to rot in their reserves for years) 

Or if he's good enough.  Last few appearances have been bang average 

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Tyrone Shoelaces

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21 minutes ago, den said:

Did we want a Director of football, or a youth development officer. Two completely different jobs surely?

That’s what worries me. As some one said earlier - is the plan to become the next Crewe Alex ? Develop young players and continually sell them on ? That policy got Crewe a good reputation but it didn’t get them very far league position  wise.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

That’s what worries me. As some one said earlier - is the plan to become the next Crewe Alex ? Develop young players and continually sell them on ? That policy didn’t get Crewe very far.

We don’t trade profitably. This is our model & has been since parachute payments ended in reality.

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18 minutes ago, den said:

Did we want a Director of football, or a youth development officer. Two completely different jobs surely?

Looks like it’s a promotion for him to DoF and no doubt his remit will be to also oversee youth development to some degree.

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2 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

We don’t trade profitably. This is our model & has been since parachute payments ended in reality.

At the moment the youth side of the club is going well, as evidenced by the number of home grown players we’ve brought into the first team. It’s in finding the next Dack or the next Rothwell were the expertise was required.

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3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

That’s what worries me. As some one said earlier - is the plan to become the next Crewe Alex ? Develop young players and continually sell them on ? That policy got Crewe a good reputation but it didn’t get them very far league position  wise.

I would imagine that the plan is to bring through a Wharton or Buckley each season and trade by selling an Armstrong/Brereton annually.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

At the moment the youth side of the club is going well, as evidenced by the number of home grown players we’ve brought into the first team. It’s in finding the next Dack or the next Rothwell were the expertise was required.

The two definitely need to go hand in hand…something about winning nothing with kids…😉

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3 minutes ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

I would imagine that the plan is to bring through a Wharton or Buckley each season and trade by selling an Armstrong/Brereton annually.

Yes but who is going to be scouting the Armstrongs and Brererton’s ? Neither of those came through our youth teams.

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1 minute ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

I would imagine that the plan is to bring through a Wharton or Buckley each season and trade by selling an Armstrong/Brereton annually.

Who we selling after BBD?

Hoping to keep your head above water by finding a £15 million plus player to sell every summer seems a tad optimistic for a middling second division club…

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11 minutes ago, Swanson said:

I think we can rule out Knutsen. Him and Broughton weren't actually best friends in Glimt and that is one of the reasons that he left Bodø, that's what I have been told.

Hi, what do you know about Deila, would he be a great appointment?

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34 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Absolutely. I'm excited at the appointment of Broughton....just because it gives hope of Knutsen. Knutsen would be an incredible appointment - not one I thought possible.

 

Have to wonder if Knutsen really fancies walking away from a CL club however small for the Championship?

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16 minutes ago, BigUts said:

For those struggling to read:

 

 

Bodo Glimt have become one of the biggest clubs in Norway in recent seasons, with Kjetil Knutsen, the coach who masterminded it all, being strongly linked with the vacant position at Norwich City.

The 53-year-old is among the bookmaker's favourites to replace Daniel Farke in the Carrow Road dugout and is understood to be open to talking to the Canaries.

Few are aware of what Knutsen has achieved in Norway. Not only has he delivered Glimt's first-ever Eliteserien title but his side have also smashed record after record. 

Despite having a modest stadium of just 8,500 and finishing just above the relegation zone in 2018, Knudsen has since helped transform Glimt into one of Norway's best football teams rivalling the likes of Molde, Viking and Rosenberg.

Bodo is a city of just 50,000 people and is a 16-hour drive from the country's capital Oslo.

 

Knudsen is known for being a calm, process-driven coach with a clear identity of how football should be played. 

Bodo/Glimt are now viewed as one of the best clubs in Scandinavia. Knutsen's tactical set-up revolves around a possession-based 4-3-3 with high pressing that has been maintained even in the high winds provided by the Arctic.

All of this has been achieved on a budget with a squad that consists of a high percentage of homegrown and academy based players. 

Prior to joining Bodo, Knutsen started his managerial career with fifth-tier side TIL Holding - two promotions in nine years saw him gain admirers from higher up the pyramid. 

He would go on to join top-tier side Brann as head of player development before becoming manager at Fyllingsdalen in 2012, overseeing just three games in charge. 

 
 
 

Asane was next. Knutsen oversaw 69 games in charge before being dismissed in November 2016 with an average points per game return of 1.32. It took him just two months to return to football with his current employers. 

 

Knudsen became head coach of Bodo in 2018 just a year after joining initially as assistant boss to Aasmund Bjørkan, who later became sporting director.

The success and elevation of that club since has been dramatic. 

From a relegation threatened side, Knutsen's work has now seen them move within four games of recording back to back league titles. 

An impressive 6-1 dismantling of Jose Mourinho's Roma propelled Bodo/Glimt into the mainstream of European football last month - Knutsen subsequently joked that he was the 'pretty one'. 

Knutsen has developed a deep affection with his players. Patrick Berg, defensive midfielder for Bodo told the New York Times in 2019 about his best quality: “He listens to his players.”

His identity centres around an intense, purposeful possession-based game, as he explained recently ahead of their trip to Italy to face Roma.

“Dominating doesn’t just mean scoring but also having the possession of the ball and dictating the rules of the game," Knutsen said.

“We want to create a team identity that encompasses everyone; players, staff, managers, fans. We must confront ourselves to be able to create this ‘Bodo model’.”

Their success title tilt last season saw them register 102 goals in a single season, an average of over three per match. Their style on the pitch was described by captain Ulrick Saltnes as 'kamikaze'.

Knutsen's methods have transformed their fortunes and elevated them from a side that bounced between the division's to Norwegian champions. 

It has been a tale of innovation and somewhat of a fairytale. 

With a contract that expires at the end of this current campaign, it's little wonder that Knutsen has had admirers. Rosenberg have made their interest felt. Many in the Norwegian media are expecting him to move on upon the expiration of his current contract in 2022. 

Speaking about Knutsen on the Training Ground Guru podcast, ex-City head of academy recruitment Gregg Broughton praised his ability to focus minds on the present.

"That ability to work in the present has probably been the biggest competitive advantage we have had. Our head coach, Kjetil Knutsen, is an absolute master at it.

"He refuses to look past the next game and training session. He absolutely lives that mantra every day. And it’s a vital part of youth development."

With a strong record of developing young talent, curating an attractive and effective style of play and working to a budget, it is easy to see why Norwich would be considering Knutsen among their main targets. 

The 6-1 dismantling of Roma aside, I'm not seeing much about that which is more impressive than Deila's record in Norway. He also took a relegation threatened side and made them champions. Albeit Knutsen did it a bit faster and won it the season after, whereas Deila finished 2nd the next year before leaving. Stromsgodset have a bigger stadium than Glint, but still much smaller than the big boys over there.

Knutsen's achievement does seem a bit bigger, as he did it faster, followed up on it a bit better the next season, and with a slightly smaller club, but there's not orders of magnitude difference in it as far as I can see, mostly it's just more recent. Deila went on to two more clubs in two different countries and won titles and cups there too (albeit not that hard in Celtic's case), showing he probably isn't a one hit wonder.

I'm mentioning all of this because there seems to be much excitement at the thought of Knutsen but Deila got a mixed response. I'm probably missing something though.

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3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Who we selling after BBD?

Hoping to keep your head above water by finding a £15 million plus player to sell every summer seems a tad optimistic for a middling second division club…

It's a target and not one that can necessarily be met every year. If you have a better method I'm sure the club would love to hear from you.

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