Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[Paul Mellelieu]

Why the love for Ainsworth?    Nothing much to impress.

[JC4LAB]

An Everton fan thinks Former favourite  Unsworth might be in the frame..Good with home grown players I believe..

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[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

A quick appointment and for it to be Farke is absolutely dream world stuff in venkys land.

I just don't see it happening.

I would be on for a season ticket if it did happen and no doubt many more would...take note Waggott!

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Why the love for Ainsworth?    Nothing much to impress.

Taking Wycombe to the championship isn't impressive?

He wouldn't be my first choice but the job he has done at Wycombe has been terrific

[dallydally]

3 minutes ago, JC4LAB said:

An Everton fan thinks Former favourite  Unsworth might be in the frame..Good with home grown players I believe..

No thanks. Surely we can do better than him

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Why the love for Ainsworth?    Nothing much to impress.

plays attacking football,works on a budget(wycombe are skint)charismatic, nearly kept wycombe in the championship last year (a good acomplishment) and he does`nt gurn and sit on his arris like mowbray,he smiles more as well

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

The betting odds are not a reliable barometer though, it is a small market to begin with so a handful of optimistic fans putting a bit of money on their preferred options will make a considerable difference.

Somewhat true but I remember when Bowyer was sacked and Lambert was odds on favourite straight away based on a couple of news stories in the media. 

 

43 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The Lancashire Telegraph is clearly lacking when it comes to breaking stories, but what will there be to report regarding a new manager? The current one hasn't even been officially announced as leaving, its hardly as if a series of potential candidates will have been interviewed.

The LT could be asking potential managers whether they are interested in the Rovers job and whether they have applied for the job. They have asked for interview with Waggott which I believe will be sometime this week if its happens

I remember when Ince was sacked and the national media were running stories that Souness was going to be appoint the day after and Souness gave an exclusive interview to the LT to say he wasn't becoming Rovers manager. 

1 minute ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Why the love for Ainsworth?    Nothing much to impress.

2 promotions on a shoestring of budget. 

[chaddyrovers]

2 pros and 2 cons as Blackburn Rovers consider Daniel Farke as Tony Mowbray successor

2 pros and 2 cons as Blackburn Rovers consider 45-year-old as Tony Mowbray successor (msn.com)

[OldEwoodBlue]

16 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Rovers Chat live stream at 8:30pm this evening with new Lancs Live reporter Elliott Jackson. Going over all the candidates and profiling each manager. Be sure to join in the conversation when things get underway this evening 🙂

Except Rovers Chat don't have a clue who the candidates are.

[roverandout]

Avram grant?

[dallydally]

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

Avram grant?

Get a grip!!

[roverandout]

6 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Get a grip!!

I'm just being facetious 

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Except Rovers Chat don't have a clue who the candidates are.

Who put salt on your cereal?

[Crimpshrine]

 

LT:Tony Mowbray is set to leave the club this summer after five years in charge, and despite his contract coming to an end, the Rovers boss says there have been no approaches, or talks, about his future.

TM “The contract is running down, I will run the team until they tell me not me.”

I'm convinced Venky's will try and persuade him to stay. He may have decided he wants leave but even so, I bet there will be no new appointment any time soon.

[bluebruce]

It's interesting how a manager's stock rises and falls over time and is most closely linked to what has happened recently.

I see a huge amount of criticism for Simon Grayson for example. Got Blackpool promoted, got Leeds promoted, got Huddersfield promoted, kept Preston safe from a relegation scrap they were in when he joined, playoffs next season, promoted season after. For me, a few clubs sacked him prematurely because they got big (deluded) ideas about what their level in the Championship was (especially Preston, although they recruited quite well managerially since). Then went to basketcase Sunderland in 2017 and has had a poor record since. And I'd agree, not someone to go for now, but some of the comments about him are OTT.

Farke's time in the limelight began the same year (although he had moved Lippstadt from the German 6th tier to 4th tier previously, and managed Dortmund's reserves). Took (a quite well funded?) Norwich up as champions, got them instantly relegated back. Took them straight back up as champions again (definitely well funded this time), got them instantly relegated again. This time with a top-flight record 15-game consecutive losing streak. That's pretty much the extent of his managerial achievements. Don't get me wrong, I'd take going up as champions and coming straight back down, but is it really as impressive as we are making out?

Paul Lambert had also achieved promotion with Norwich, two consecutive ones in fact, and then kept them up for a season before leaving. 3 years of managing in the Prem later, he rocked up here and from what I remember, although most people were happy we were getting a 'proper' manager who had achieved promotion, there was a fair bit of scepticism too. It didn't work out well for us and was soon widely seen as a crap appointment.

Coyle also had a promotion to the Prem under his belt, this time 7 years before joining us, and I think we can all agree that was a crap appointment.

We've also seen the notion of appointing the likes of McCarthy, Hughton and Warnock receive mixed receptions on here over the last few years, largely I'd say just down to a perception of them being old and yesterday's men, though they've regularly managed promotion charges and actual promotions.

None of this is meant to say who we should or shouldn't get, just that it's interesting to me. I bet there are lots of examples of managers with a great track record falling flat, ones who have never really done much suddenly going on a successful streak, and those who have achieved promotions in the past, then gone off the boil for years, coming good again for a spell (a fair bit of daylight between Mowbray's promotions, and I think Ranieri joining Leicester wasn't greeted with fanfare due to recent fumblings, despite his impressive CV).

Much like with signing players, you can't know how it will turn out until it happens, but a lot depends on how well they fit the club and how good the support they have around them is. But sometimes the 'outstanding candidate' turns out to be terrible, and the highly unambitious appointment turns out to be a hidden gem. Our thinking before they join is definitely primarily based on the last couple of years in their career though, which I'd argue isn't as fair for a manager as for a player (and player form between clubs can fluctuate hugely too). Anyway, just some thoughts.

Edited May 2, 2022 by bluebruce

[jim mk2]

2 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I bet there will be no new appointment any time soon.

Absolutely certain I’d say. Lots of disappointment through the summer as all the best candidates are snapped up by other clubs and then a few days before the start of the season some underwhelming non-entity gets the job. 

[Paul Mellelieu]

On Ainsworth, I would prefer Championship, or similar, experience and a track record of leading an academy.  And better hair.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Absolutely certain I’d say. Lots of disappointment through the summer as all the best candidates are snapped up by other clubs and then a few days before the start of the season some underwhelming non-entity gets the job. 

I’m an underwhelming non-entity Jim, is it my turn this time ?

[Hasta]

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Somewhat true but I remember when Bowyer was sacked and Lambert was odds on favourite straight away based on a couple of news stories in the media. 

That just validates his point. A couple of news stories appeared and it probably only took a small number of bets and Lambert was odds on. The bookies market is just an indication of where the money has gone.

[aletheia]

Tyrone for manager.

This thread to be red hot for the forseeable. Rovers snap into action and finally make a decision 1 or 2 weeks before season starts. Fans say: "Who. Is he still alive?" No planning in place. Rovers fans shuffle in for new season.

[bluebruce]

1 minute ago, aletheia said:

Tyrone for manager.

This thread to be red hot for the forseeable. Rovers snap into action and finally make a decision 1 or 2 weeks before season starts. Fans say: "Who. Is he still alive?" No planning in place. Rovers fans shuffle in for new season.

That's harsh. Tyrone is definitely still alive.

[tomphil]

To be fair to Sharpe i thought his LT piece was quite balanced he didn't let TM completely off the hook for the horrendous fall away.

Covered most of it quite well.

[Darrenbot]

I wonder how many pages this thread gets to before Venky's make an appointment ,i'm guessing on past slowness of decisions that it'll get to about 120 

[Gav]

21 minutes ago, Hasta said:

The bookies market is just an indication of where the money has gone.

Spot on Hasta.

In 2017 JFH was odds on favourite and Mowbray wasn’t even mentioned.

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

plays attacking football,works on a budget(wycombe are skint)charismatic, nearly kept wycombe in the championship last year (a good acomplishment) and he does`nt gurn and sit on his arris like mowbray,he smiles more as well

Wycombe play attractive football?

I thought they had a reputation for being very direct and physical set piece specialists? I admit I don't know much about them and it doesn't bother me if it is successful.

I'm more bothered by the fact that he's never been tested at a club with pressure or expectations. He's been able to do his thing at Wycombe, a small steady club, coming here would be a complete change in every respect and a risk I don't think is worth taking.