Which utterly brilliant manager will we be delighted to welcome next?

[J*B]

Currently watching Atletico vs. City. Obviously, I’m not in any way suggesting this is realistic, because it isn’t, but wouldn’t it be fantastic to get someone with the character of Diego Simone in? As it stands he’s on the pitch, screaming at his players, demanding more as they chase a last minute equaliser. He’s got the Atletico fans creating an incredible atmosphere, he’s egging the fans on. Over two legs they’ve played defensive - almost anti football - but do you think the Atleti fans care? I doubt it. They all believe, they have their strengths and they play to it and create a culture. 

Now again, I’ll emphasis this… I KNOW WE AREN’T GOING TO GET SIMONE! But please god give me someone with passion and a clear and defined “style”. 

[simongarnerisgod]

7 minutes ago, J*B said:

Currently watching Atletico vs. City. Obviously, I’m not in any way suggesting this is realistic, because it isn’t, but wouldn’t it be fantastic to get someone with the character of Diego Simone in? As it stands he’s on the pitch, screaming at his players, demanding more as they chase a last minute equaliser. He’s got the Atletico fans creating an incredible atmosphere, he’s egging the fans on. Over two legs they’ve played defensive - almost anti football - but do you think the Atleti fans care? I doubt it. They all believe, they have their strengths and they play to it and create a culture. 

Now again, I’ll emphasis this… I KNOW WE AREN’T GOING TO GET SIMONE! But please god give me someone with passion and a clear and defined “style”. 

id`e settle for a manager who plays everyone in their correct position and keeps a settled formation,football is a simple game,someone tell moggadon that

[roversfan99]

I dont get this current desperation to get someone who jumps around on the touchline. I couldnt care how animate the manager is, the reason that im currently frustrated watching Rovers is because of the results on the pitch under the current management.

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Gav said:

What a depressing read.

These owners are not interested in who manages the club as the last 11yrs shows. We need someone who is willing to work with 1 hand tied behind his back, right now I'd take Mowbray over the dross in this thread, he's tried and tested and will tide us over until these reprobates sod off.

The alternative could be Phil Brown, you heard it hear first 😉

 

 

Stop the scaremongering FFS i'll stake you £100 right now it won't be Phil Brown so step up or...

 

[broadsword]

What's Howard Wilkinson doing these days? 🤔 😂 

[tomphil]

No it'll be Alan Smith or what about John Gregory ?

Might as well throw all yesterdays men in whilst we frighten everybody into toeing the Mowbray line.

[Ulrich]

Is it time for Sven to finally come?

[Nuttall is lost]

4 hours ago, Ulrich said:

Is it time for Sven to finally come?

Yes.  He has unfinished business at the club.  He knows the club and what the fans want Jeff.

[Gav]

8 hours ago, tomphil said:

Stop the scaremongering FFS i'll stake you £100 right now it won't be Phil Brown so step up or...

 

Did you say the same when Coyle walked through the door or Tony Mowbray who had just resigned from 3rd division Coventry? 

Add Paul Jewell to the list he's looking for work and is represented by the right agency.

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Did you say the same when Coyle walked through the door or Tony Mowbray who had just resigned from 3rd division Coventry? 

Add Paul Jewell to the list he's looking for work and is represented by the right agency.

I'm saying it won't be Phil Brown who you keep throwing presumably because he is the worst you can think of besides Kean and Coyle.

If you are going to keep trying to terrify people into clinging on to your hero i suggest you get a bit more realistic. Underwhelming it no doubt would be, HSH it no doubt would be but Phil Brown it won't be.

[Gav]

3 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I'm saying it won't be Phil Brown who you keep throwing presumably because he is the worst you can think of besides Kean and Coyle.

If you are going to keep trying to terrify people into clinging on to your hero i suggest you get a bit more realistic. Underwhelming it no doubt would be, HSH it no doubt would be but Phil Brown it won't be.

Phil Brown certainly isn't the worst manager I can think of, Paul 'Porn star' Jewell would be worse and don't get me started on the suggestion Ray Harford should take over earlier in this thread.....

Instead of throwing your rattle out of the pram lets hear your suggestion for a new manager?

 

[tomphil]

12 minutes ago, Gav said:

Phil Brown certainly isn't the worst manager I can think of, Paul 'Porn star' Jewell would be worse and don't get me started on the suggestion Ray Harford should take over earlier in this thread.....

Instead of throwing your rattle out of the pram lets hear your suggestion for a new manager?

 

Instead of changing tack stand by your repeated words and take the bet.

When Lambert came in he was mid 40s and had a promotion in the last 5 years on his cv.

Coyle not much older and also a promotion in less than a decade on his cv.

Mowbray early 50's and similar to Coyle.

There's a pattern there that you aren't seeing and that's the reason Coyle got his foot in the door via his links to those he'd never heard of.

Phil Brown is in his 60s he isn't on the dole (yet) he's in league 2 and his promotion was over a decade ago. It won't be Phil Brown and that is the be all and end all of the debate.

[1864roverite]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Did you say the same when Coyle walked through the door or Tony Mowbray who had just resigned from 3rd division Coventry? 

Add Paul Jewell to the list he's looking for work and is represented by the right agency.

I pointed it out earlier, Jewels is earning big bucks in the film industry🤑

[Gav]

1 minute ago, 1864roverite said:

I pointed it out earlier, Jewels is earning big bucks in the film industry🤑

He was making porn flicks the last time I heard 🤣

[tomphil]

The odds are it would be one from the HSH bin list that nearest matched the criteria of the last 3. If they didn't want it it would roll onto the next one and so on.

If i had to go for anyone on there it probably would be Robins he has form for doing what Mowbray couldn't do. Could he do better with a better squad and a bit more backing ?

Why don't we try and find out because spinning the wheel, giving them a fair crack of the whip and reasonable backing is the only way this club will really turn into promotion material.

[Mike E]

9 hours ago, Ulrich said:

Is it time for Sven to finally come?

You'll have to ask Humphrey Lyttleton.

[Miller11]

17 hours ago, Gav said:

What a depressing read.

These owners are not interested in who manages the club as the last 11yrs shows. We need someone who is willing to work with 1 hand tied behind his back, right now I'd take Mowbray over the dross in this thread, he's tried and tested and will tide us over until these reprobates sod off.

The alternative could be Phil Brown, you heard it hear first 😉

 

 

I don’t disagree with much of this. Completely agree with your take on the owners, and I think there’s a pretty good chance they bring in somebody worse than Mowbray.

The difference is I can’t be arsed with the state of purgatory we are in any more. I think we are heading into a Mowbray trough, he’s passed his peak and we are in decline. We’re more likely to finish nearer 15th than 8th next season. Stick with Mowbray, we stick with mid table finishes, mounting losses, horrendous patches of form, and a dwindling largely apathetic fanbase.

I’d rather roll the dice. We might fluke someone who gets the team performing as more than the sum of its parts for a while, maybe inspires a few more fans back in, brings in a couple of exciting signings. On the other hand we might head into another period of disaster, but a completely disastrous appointment might wake a few more people up to the reality of how shit our owners are.

[DeeCee]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

You'll have to ask Humphrey Lyttleton.

Or Nancy whatsherface,? 😊

[chaddyrovers]

On 11/04/2022 at 14:44, Miller11 said:

It doesn’t really matter what names get mentioned on here. We can all speculate, discuss, hope and fear, that’s what the forum is for, 

I am discussing what I would do if I was owner or in charge of running the club

On 11/04/2022 at 14:44, Miller11 said:

If you want us to avoid who you see as “yesterdays men”, have a word with the one person they do pay any attention to - Craig Honeyman.

Fully aware of him

On 11/04/2022 at 16:20, roverandout said:

Hughton is working out in Ghana.  Don't think he will give that up to come back to England 

good. past his best now. 12 years ago I would have said yes but not now

On 11/04/2022 at 16:29, TruRover said:

 Ismael for me would be the prime candidates. 
 

is he going to leave Bestikas for Rovers job?  

On 11/04/2022 at 23:18, JHRover said:

I think even Venkys would struggle with that list. Taking out Cooper and Robins, who aren't going to leave their current jobs where they are loved to come here. there are few options. Pulis a possibility but if he has one eye on retirement as rumoured he might not be bothered about it. The rest I would be fascinated to see how they would manage to parachute one of that lot into this club and job. They'd probably have to bring them into another role first with the aim of promoting them in due course as it would be obvious something was amiss otherwise. 

Maybe Rob Edwards might be the hidden gem but would also be massive risk tho

On 12/04/2022 at 02:55, 1874 said:

Mark Warburton out of contract at QPR

interesting tho I would be concern by the drop off they have experience just like we have 

On 12/04/2022 at 10:59, deanives said:

Yes exactly,

Johnson wouldn't be screaming for X amount of money for a squad revamp. He would already have a certain amount of trust from venkys due to the work he did in the under 23s.

I just can't see them going for any ambitious managers, they'll want to keep the stability that Mowbray has built.

We never know, Johnson might turn out to be a cracker 

I think Johnson might just be cracker with the right number 2 and director of football above him. 

bringing through more and more academy players is one of the must do's by any managerial appointment

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I am discussing what I would do if I was owner or in charge of running the club

Fully aware of him

good. past his best now. 12 years ago I would have said yes but not now

is he going to leave Bestikas for Rovers job?  

Maybe Rob Edwards might be the hidden gem but would also be massive risk tho

interesting tho I would be concern by the drop off they have experience just like we have 

I think Johnson might just be cracker with the right number 2 and director of football above him. 

bringing through more and more academy players is one of the must do's by any managerial appointment

imagine if johnson gets the job and mowbray moves upstairs to director of football,my god he`ll have even more influence then😨

[Oldgregg86]

18 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont get this current desperation to get someone who jumps around on the touchline. I couldnt care how animate the manager is, the reason that im currently frustrated watching Rovers is because of the results on the pitch under the current management.

I understand what your saying and agree to some extent. It doesn’t matter if your a ranter or more studious like wenger what matters is results etc . I’m quite a calm guy and don’t think I would be bouncing around the touch line if I was a manager and would probably be sat analysing. However certain things on the pitch and the way games go would have me reacting to incidents  instinctively, like when I’m in the stand . I can sit there with calm and quiet but sometimes something happens that makes you uncontrollably react. Secondly, as a manager I would be aware of how my demeanour and body language comes across to my players and fans alike. Head down, hands in pockets etc would never be a thing I would do if only to not let negativity drift onto the pitch and show a never die attitude this is where the problem lies with a lot of fans when they speak of body language imo

Edited April 14, 2022 by Oldgregg86

[Gav]

18 hours ago, tomphil said:

The odds are it would be one from the HSH bin list that nearest matched the criteria of the last 3. If they didn't want it it would roll onto the next one and so on.

If i had to go for anyone on there it probably would be Robins he has form for doing what Mowbray couldn't do. Could he do better with a better squad and a bit more backing ?

Why don't we try and find out because spinning the wheel, giving them a fair crack of the whip and reasonable backing is the only way this club will really turn into promotion material.

I'm probably the last person that would be accused of 'illusions of grandeur' but Mark Robins? I can't knock the reasoning tomphil, his record and hunger to succeed alone would give us chance, but it just doesn't sit right to me, we should be looking for better than him, we should be looking for better than any manager we've had in the past 11yrs, but we know in our heart of hearts this doesn't get any better until they sod off.

Any manager that comes in now would need to rebuild, where are the funds coming from? The taps been turned off completely, they even refused to lay a new pitch in the summer. I fear a Paul Lambert scenario, tell a new manager fibs in his interview, "We'll back your plans Paul Lambert" then refuse to take his phone calls, the rest is history.

Its been many a year since I've come away from Ewood with a smile on face as often as this season, having seen some really good games, some great young players and a team for most of the season on the up. Yes its disappointing that we fell away, but its not unique, especially when resources are tight and money is missing.

I'm not saying keep Mowbray, I think he's done a decent job working for absent meddling owners, but in the current climate I don't think we get any better, but we certainly could very easily get worse.

 

[chaddyrovers]

Would Mark Robins be any better than Mowbray has achieve this season? 

[JHRover]

Robins is just another average manager at this level. Look at his record. Did nothing with Huddersfield and other than that and the last couple of seasons has been a League One or Two manager.

He's done very well at Coventry but if all we are looking for is someone who has done well in Leagues One and Two then the list will be a long one. John Coleman anyone?

Even if we wanted him I doubt he'd leave Coventry to come here when he's got a settled job there with people who love him.

That kind of says it all when we remember where Coventry were not long ago and that they are still owned by SISU but we've got Venkys to thank for that.

We need to be aiming for better if the ambition is promotion. 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

John Coleman anyone?

a person who sit in front of me suggested him a couple of games ago. 

7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We need to be aiming for better if the ambition is promotion. 

We need to be aiming for right candidate that fit in within the club structure and what the football and transfer strategy is going forward. 

I have see this sort of comment that we need to be aiming for better if the ambition is promotion plenty recently on different social media sites