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51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I just don't think Cocu's management and style of play is suited to our players and would take months to make his style work here. 

Yet you have seen the stats on Wycombe and the players in their squad after 10 years under Ainsworth and think his style is suitable?

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3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Yet you have seen the stats on Wycombe and the players in their squad after 10 years under Ainsworth and think his style is suitable?

Ainsworth is working on a much smaller budget than Cocu ever has. Ainsworth would be working with better quality players so he might adapt his tactics. 

Look at how long Derby players to get used to playing his style here and its style I don't think is suited here. We need press high and close teams down. Thats not Cocu style. Rovers will like that he is manager whp will bring through youth like he did at Derby in people like Max Bird, Jason Knight, Lee Buchannan and Louis Sibley. 

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1 hour ago, Laurence said:

He’s been working for years with one of the smallest budgets in the football league, they don’t even have a reserve team. Who knows what his style would be if he had a few quid more to spend. 

He won’t find that out here.

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24 minutes ago, JBiz said:

This gives me a serious bout of anxiety;

”The speed of decision-making remains a concern, and with the new season getting under way on July 30, Rovers have to find a new manager, head of recruitment, head of fitness, front of shirt sponsor, and that’s before we get onto speaking about the playing staff.

The team named by Mowbray in his final team selection included no loan players, a starting XI of players under contract for at least next season, and only captain Darragh Lenihan on the bench whose future is uncertain.

Every player in the Rovers squad, bar Ryan Nyambe and Lenihan, have either been handed their debuts, or been signed by, Mowbray.”

Even if the club were to entertain any serious candidates they would run a mile as soon as they got a glimpse of what a shit show this place is.

And so much for Mowbray building something. 

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16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ainsworth is working on a much smaller budget than Cocu ever has. Ainsworth would be working with better quality players so he might adapt his tactics. 

Look at how long Derby players to get used to playing his style here and its style I don't think is suited here. We need press high and close teams down. Thats not Cocu style. Rovers will like that he is manager whp will bring through youth like he did at Derby in people like Max Bird, Jason Knight, Lee Buchannan and Louis Sibley. 

Ah right, so you're factoring in budgets now then?

So when I suggested Mick McCarthy based on his record at Ipswich on a shoestring you rejected that based on his style of play. Yet you would now happily take a manager with a similar style and excuse that because he's had a limited budget. Makes sense.

A decent manager will adapt his style and approach to best fit the players and conditions of the job.

I'm getting tired of people being categorised like this. I'm only interested in results and accomplishments.

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5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Ah right, so you're factoring in budgets now then?

So when I suggested Mick McCarthy based on his record at Ipswich on a shoestring you rejected that based on his style of play. Yet you would now happily take a manager with a similar style and excuse that because he's had a limited budget. Makes sense.

A decent manager will adapt his style and approach to best fit the players and conditions of the job.

I'm getting tired of people being categorised like this. I'm only interested in results and accomplishments.

Difference is Ainsworth’s a Rovers fan, that’s literally the start and end of Chaddy’s thought process.

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1 hour ago, matt83 said:

It is most definitely a Mowbray thing:

Middlesbrough 2011/12 - 2nd at Christmas - finished 7th.

Middlesbrough 2012/13 - 3rd at Christmas - finished 16th.

Coventry 2015/16  4th at Christmas -finished 8th.

Rovers 2018/19 8th and 2 points off the play offs in January - finished 15th

Rovers 2019/20 7th and 3 points off the play offs at Christmas - finished 11th

Rovers 2020/21 8th at the end of January 3 points off the play offs - finished 15th.

Rovers 2021/22 2nd in February 10 points clear of 7th - finished 8th. 

Rovers plucked him off the scrapheap after average to disastrous spells at boro/Celtic/Coventry. He’s stayed well beyond his use by date. I seriously doubt he’ll get a job above Rovers so to speak and IF he leaves I’ll watch with curiosity where he goes and will see whether all this talk of journey and more family time was bollocks too.  

It will turn out to be bollocks he's thrown it in and out as his go to excuse time and again down the years.  I was wondering 2 or 3 years ago why he was even still in the job at all if it was such a big issue.

Anybody who was speaking the truth on this would just either retire or say i'm taking a complete break from management for a year.  Not him he'll be back in like a shot somewhere he'll probably end up at Ipswich only to use the same excuse in the middle of his non winning Jan/Feb meltdown.

As for those stats there's been an argument that TM gets average teams over achieving for short spells before they fall back into old habits.

Not so sure looking at that table but what it does scream loud and clear is he's never had a plan B and has no idea how to use a January window.

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It's Sunday so that means another round of Nixon gossip.

Looks like whoever is representing Carvalhal is doing their best to get him a move to England. Been 'linked' with us, Dingles and Reading recently.

Think he's a good manager and would happily take him here but would prefer Farke. Carvalhal also spent big at Wednesday so would be surprised if that happened.

 

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30 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Nixon claiming Carvalhal now on list. Certainly hope so

Nixon doesn't have a fucking clue whats going on, and in truth neither does the blancmange in a suit masquerading as our CEO. It'll all be window dressing by Pasha, via the blancmange, until the agency decide who their best candidate is. Rotten to the core  

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Chris hughton is a personal favourite of mine. Doesn’t spend millions and normally sets his team up solidly. Didn’t work out for him at forest, but it’s more proof that certain clubs/set ups just don’t work out for certain managers. We could do a lot worse.

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On 08/05/2022 at 09:26, Tugayisgod said:

Nixon claiming Carvalhal now on list. Certainly hope so

Had more clubs than Nick Faldo, 19 managerial appointments in 24 seasons, does not sound like the solution to me.

 

Farke, Wagner and Nuno Santo, that's your three

Regarding other candidates, Ainsworth, without the rovers connections i'm not too sure he'd be high on that many list  its emotions over head. Done a decent job at Wycombe,  but rovers is a huge step up and I don't think this would be the right appointment.

Houghton, proven but is he an upgrade on TM, im not too sure.

All the above though would not matter, if we continue to operate in the manner we do.

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7 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Had more clubs than Nick Faldo, 19 managerial appointments in 24 seasons, does not sound like the solution to me

Anyone who watched his Braga side this season would love his style of football, did a good job at Wednesday too, but beyond our ability to recruit or fund I’m sure. 

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12 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Had more clubs than Nick Faldo, 19 managerial appointments in 24 seasons, does not sound like the solution to me

Love the Wiki pages of those types of managers, no slow builds for them!

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We need substance over style we had fancy possession football and it went nowhere.  Contrast to the first half of this season where we met fire with fire and for the first time in a long time had an actual playing identity more resembling a good championship outfit.

Said it time and time again you cannot football your way into finishing in the top 6 in this league unless you can buy good footballers.

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11 minutes ago, Gav said:

Anyone who watched his Braga side this season would love his style of football, did a good job at Wednesday too, but beyond our ability to recruit or fund I’m sure. 

Just dont think we should be his latest bus stop, and if anything what has he achieved in all that time?

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Little shout for Darren Moore as a candidate, obviously not my first choice, but if your considering someone like Ainsworth then surely he's worth alook also. 

He also knows the club a bit from starting his coaching career here, has a pretty solid cv and decent pedigree for a relatively young manager

 

P. S. Carvalal looks terrible! One of those manager s where you just have to wonder how he keeps finding work at a good level! (my guess would be he has a very convincing agent). ALSO Coco would be very poor. 

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