simongarnerisgod Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said: A lot of truth in this. We've played badly for 90% of this season as an attacking force. We've won games because in the first half of the season we were taking a chance or two and then defending very well. In some ways it was a carbon copy of that purple patch under Mowbray last season that took us to 2nd. There have been a few signs that we can play better football. Thomas will make a difference because he can beat a man and get a cross in. Our usual wide men (Gally, BBD and to a lesser extent Hedges) are useless as creators of chances. I watched Sunderland the other day. Mowbray has 3 players just behind the striker. They are Diallo, Roberts and Clarke. All 3 are quick and can beat a man. As much as JDT gets on my tits, he needs time to get his own players in. he is`nt going to get his own players in,the useless mob in the back office arn`t fit for purpose and the money is`nt apparently there,despite the so called healthy budget,jdt will see it through to april and announce he`s off at the end of the season Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: We have created very few chances in those games. We have got worse after the manager has had more time with the players which is a big worry. We are creating chances but we lack a quality striker who can run in behind and score goals. Results wise we got worse but chances wise not so for me Quote
roversfan99 Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 3 hours ago, booth said: I watched all three games, and we had good chances to win those games but Brereton, Gallagher and co fluffed them. It doesn't matter how much you want to believe otherwise. We haven't got worse, apart from the scoring part, we were playing badly in the first half of the season and winning. I sat through a lot of those games, wondering how we were winning. One that sticks in my mind was the WBA game at home. Edun came on and tried his best to make it a loss. The best performance was against Blackpool, and we still only came away with one goal. It's always been a problem. Very few decent quality chances in those games. It doesnt help playing Brereton as a second left back so deep. I dont doubt the failings above the manager but I refuse to accept that the attackers we do have couldnt offer more of a goal threat or at least create better chances. They have before and did under Mowbray. Quote
Waggy76 Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 For 8 or 9 games last season , Mowbrays team played good football , how it happened , I am not sure and neither was he , I suspect ... Can't say the same about this season ,the football as been shocking throughout! 4 Quote
booth Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Very few decent quality chances in those games. It doesnt help playing Brereton as a second left back so deep. I dont doubt the failings above the manager but I refuse to accept that the attackers we do have couldnt offer more of a goal threat or at least create better chances. They have before and did under Mowbray. Different circumstances. We aren't going to emulate last season when Brereton has already left. Also we weren't doing great last season at this time. Lest we forget. 1 Quote
booth Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: For 8 or 9 games last season , Mowbrays team played good football , how it happened , I am not sure and neither was he , I suspect ... Can't say the same about this season ,the football as been shocking throughout! Brereton became Diaz. 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 What a loser Proud to have been in the play off places....well done mate.🙄 season over that says to the players. 4 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: What a loser Proud to have been in the play off places....well done mate.🙄 season over that says to the players. Out of interest, how many Champions Leagues have you won? 5 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: What a loser Proud to have been in the play off places....well done mate.🙄 season over that says to the players. i think he`s given up,soon be announcing he`s leaving,can`t really blame him tbh 1 Quote
Popular Post J*B Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 12, 2023 He’s clearly playing the situation into his favour. He’s been let down in the window and he’s making sure everyone is aware. Got us top six, wasn’t backed, couldn’t deliver on a threadbare squad. 13 Quote
Gav Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, J*B said: He’s clearly playing the situation into his favour. He’s been let down in the window and he’s making sure everyone is aware. Got us top six, wasn’t backed, couldn’t deliver on a threadbare squad. Exactly the same situation as last season…. Edited February 12, 2023 by Gav 3 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said: Out of interest, how many Champions Leagues have you won? Ooohhh get you. He wasn't even in the squad for the final. That's says he didn't win one to me. Edited February 12, 2023 by Sparks Rover Quote
jim mk2 Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said: What a loser Proud to have been in the play off places....well done mate.🙄 season over that says to the players. That's a pathetic thing to say. The man's getting as bad as Mowbray for silly quotes 4 Quote
frosty Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said: Ooohhh get you. He wasn't even in the squad for the final. That's says he didn't win one to me. They wouldn’t have made the final if it wasn’t for this 👀 1 Quote
tomphil Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Gav said: Exactly the same situation as last season…. Apart from the 4 players we didn't bring in this time of course. Quote
Sparks Rover Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, frosty said: They wouldn’t have made the final if it wasn’t for this 👀 Could have been injured I suppose. Anyway, he talks in a defeatist way now he's here and has given the players the summer off already. I expect mid table at best. Quote
booth Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said: Could have been injured I suppose. Anyway, he talks in a defeatist way now he's here and has given the players the summer off already. I expect mid table at best. You didn’t expect that anyway? Quote
Waggy76 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 JDT as an opportunity to play the victim , with how the total disaster of the transfer window , played out . He could well resign in the summer and who could blame him ? Personally , I hope he does cos the football is sterile , defensive and awful to watch..Too many complete no show games away from home and 5 or even 6 at the back at home ... 1 Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted February 13, 2023 Backroom Posted February 13, 2023 The lack of striker from this window is going to kill any playoff hopes we had. It'll go one of two ways: JDT takes the next job offered. or He gives the club a chance to make it right in the summer. 1 Quote
smiller14 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 On 11/02/2023 at 17:55, booth said: Different circumstances. We aren't going to emulate last season when Brereton has already left. Also we weren't doing great last season at this time. Lest we forget. This gave me PTSD. Some of those performances when in such a strong position were absolutely criminal. 2 Quote
smiller14 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 One thing I'll say is that JDT at least feels like he'll stand up to the board/powers that be a bit, even if slightly indirectly via interviews. You always sensed Mowbray was happy either way - lower expectations and all that. Don't get me wrong. JDT is also trying to dampen expectations, but it does at least feel like he expects a lot more. 4 Quote
tomphil Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 You do sense from JDT he soon realised the limitations of the squad and will lay the blame at those above him right from the off. Although he has been protective of the naivety in public of course but he highlighted the lack of striking options from the off and has made no secret he wants better. With Mowbray there was non of that until the end was nigh and he knew the fans had seen and heard enough. Even then he was more interested in barbed digs rather than outright addressing it in public but before all that it was just oh we aren't all that and the owners can't spend much so we'll have a cup of tea and plod on. THAT is why he was here so long no other reason, he never rocked the boat he had a multitude of excuses ready at hand, never pointed the finger where it should have been. He also had the luxury of being given 3 million, 7 million and 5 million for forwards alone as well as numerous big wage players. Something JDT is very unlikely to ever get his hands on, now lets talk about how many times we even troubled the top 6 in his 5+ yrs here ? 5 Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, tomphil said: He also had the luxury of being given 3 million, 7 million and 5 million for forwards alone as well as numerous big wage players. Something JDT is very unlikely to ever get his hands on, now lets talk about how many times we even troubled the top 6 in his 5+ yrs here ? Mowbray was only second to the Toad for how much support he recieved from 'the Owners' And he wasted it 2 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 JDT has moved to SEG football, assume he's changed agents? Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said: JDT has moved to SEG football, assume he's changed agents? hired them to find him a new club next season!!!!!!!! Quote
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