Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach

[Sweaty Gussets]

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

each to their opinions but I stand by my comment. 

Lets wait to see what the budget is as this might change if Raya is sold as we have sell on clause or Wharton or Kaminski is sold for a fee. We can still sign quality players even on free transfer and loan market

There wouldn't be much to look forward to watching if we sold him. 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

each to their opinions but I stand by my comment. 

Lets wait to see what the budget is as this might change if Raya is sold as we have sell on clause or Wharton or Kaminski is sold for a fee. We can still sign quality players even on free transfer and loan market

Selling our best youngster and midfielder or our best keeper will really get him keen to stay! If even Venkys let it be reinvested which history suggests wouldnt be the case.

Every time a sell on fee has been activated, it has gone to running costs.

[chaddyrovers]

10 hours ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

There wouldn't be much to look forward to watching if we sold him. 

if it helps JDT bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the overall squad then that how we move forward. 

9 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Selling our best youngster and midfielder or our best keeper will really get him keen to stay! If even Venkys let it be reinvested which history suggests wouldnt be the case.

Every time a sell on fee has been activated, it has gone to running costs.

JDT has already dropped Kaminski, and selling Adam Wharton for 20 million would allow JDT to bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the overall squad and improve the overall quality. Similar to Brentford did or Norwich under Webber/Farke when they sold Maddison and Murphy then used some of the money to improve the overall quality in the squad 

Lets see what happen if that does happen. The past sales have always gone towards holding FFP rules. 

When was the last time we got sell on fee for a player? 

[Mattyblue]

After selling our wonderkid for a knock down price already. Because you imagine these owners will then actually release the dosh from it 🤦‍♂️

Good job you aren’t the DoF…

[Upside Down]

The fantasies of some eh...

[Wheelton Blue]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

if it helps JDT bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the overall squad then that how we move forward. 

JDT has already dropped Kaminski, and selling Adam Wharton for 20 million would allow JDT to bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the overall squad and improve the overall quality. Similar to Brentford did or Norwich under Webber/Farke when they sold Maddison and Murphy then used some of the money to improve the overall quality in the squad 

Lets see what happen if that does happen. The past sales have always gone towards holding FFP rules. 

When was the last time we got sell on fee for a player? 

You've been pretty adamant for months that we did the right thing by not selling Brereton, but now you're seemingly of the opinion that we should sell Wharton.

[Sweaty Gussets]

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

elling Adam Wharton for 20 million would allow JDT to bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the overall squad and improve the overall quality.

Ignoring for a second that most of that £20m will just be swallowed up by the club's running costs, why would you sell AW for only £20m when he's on a 5 year contract? Phil Jones was sold for £17m in 2011 and I'd be using that plus the last 12 years player inflation as a starting position.

B'ham got done with the Bellingham price, even though they got close to £30m...3 years later he's going to fetch closer to £130m. Apparently Brum have only got a 5% sell-on.  

Clubs can start the bidding at £40m for Wharton, with a 20% sell-on...and he gets a new X-box every 6 months as part of that deal.

[Mattyblue]

… and a taxi home after every crunching tackle.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

You've been pretty adamant for months that we did the right thing by not selling Brereton, but now you're seemingly of the opinion that we should sell Wharton.

Wharton would bring 12 million more, plus factoring in that we might be able to get him back 12 months loan plus GB and JDT plus the recruitment 

50 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Ignoring for a second that most of that £20m will just be swallowed up by the club's running costs, why would you sell AW for only £20m when he's on a 5 year contract? Phil Jones was sold for £17m in 2011 and I'd be using that plus the last 12 years player inflation as a starting position.

B'ham got done with the Bellingham price, even though they got close to £30m...3 years later he's going to fetch closer to £130m. Apparently Brum have only got a 5% sell-on.  

Clubs can start the bidding at £40m for Wharton, with a 20% sell-on...and he gets a new X-box every 6 months as part of that deal.

Phil Jones had a release clause in his contract of 17 million. 

 

Edited May 1, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[Sweaty Gussets]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Phil Jones had a release clause in his contract of 17 million. 

 

And? What's that got to do with you flogging AW for a paltry (poultry) £20m??

Edited May 1, 2023 by Sweaty Gussets

[Mattyblue]

We saw how much of the AA proceeds spent on transfer fees?

So selling off one of our best prospects in twenty five years for a similar amount when he could be worth significantly more in a year or so is a good idea because?

Is the Chadster actually one of the Walker family?

Edited May 1, 2023 by Mattyblue

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

And? What's that got to do with you flogging AW for a paltry (poultry) £20m??

That what club knew they had to pay. 

You think Wharton is worth more than £20m and that your opinion

[Mattyblue]

He may not be right now, so don’t sell him now.

Good god.

[ben_the_beast]

Joao Pedro has just been sold to Brighton for £30million. He's talented but is he really that good?

We can all see what Whartons trajectory will be. £30 - £40million is the lowest amount that we should even begin talking to other clubs. You see Real Madrid doing it all the time with Brazilian clubs. They'll buy their young stars for anywhere between £30 to £70 million. 

We're not little old Blackburn Rovers who should be grateful for any offers. We've got a potential superstar in our ranks. Other clubs can absolutely do one if they think they can come in and low ball us. Even if Wharton doesn't fulfill his potential he's clearly a Premier League standard player. The going rate for any player at that level isn't far off £20million anyway so that amount of money is fairly risk free for a Premier League club.

Just because it's a lot of money to us, doesn't mean we should all of a sudden start accepting well below market value. I don't care if we could rebuild our squad for £20million. We could rebuild far better for £40million. If nobody wants to pay that, then that's fine. When he shoots us to the Premier League they'll have to cough up £80million once he shows the world what we all know he is capable of. 

[jim mk2]

29 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wharton would bring 12 million more, plus factoring in that we might be able to get him back 12 months loan plus GB and JDT plus the recruitment 

 

How many more times does it have to be explained that any fee for Wharton (or any player for that matter) is highly likely to go towards the club's running costs, and not be reinvested in other players? 

[AllRoverAsia]

1 minute ago, ben_the_beast said:

Joao Pedro has just been sold to Brighton for £30million. He's talented but is he really that good?

We can all see what Whartons trajectory will be. £30 - £40million is the lowest amount that we should even begin talking to other clubs. You see Real Madrid doing it all the time with Brazilian clubs. They'll buy their young stars for anywhere between £30 to £70 million. 

We're not little old Blackburn Rovers who should be grateful for any offers. We've got a potential superstar in our ranks. Other clubs can absolutely do one if they think they can come in and low ball us. Even if Wharton doesn't fulfill his potential he's clearly a Premier League standard player. The going rate for any player at that level isn't far off £20million anyway so that amount of money is fairly risk free for a Premier League club.

Just because it's a lot of money to us, doesn't mean we should all of a sudden start accepting well below market value. I don't care if we could rebuild our squad for £20million. We could rebuild far better for £40million. If nobody wants to pay that, then that's fine. When he shoots us to the Premier League they'll have to cough up £80million once he shows the world what we all know he is capable of. 

He is currently worth 4 or 5 times what we got for AA. His value will only ever increase injuries permitting.

Next season any DoF or Manager of sound mind will be planning to build a team around him.

[Mattyblue]

‘The club has a model and plan with Gregg Broughton that the owners have bought into’

Edited May 1, 2023 by Mattyblue

[AllRoverAsia]

That makes me afraid.

[wilsdenrover]

2 hours ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Ignoring for a second that most of that £20m will just be swallowed up by the club's running costs, why would you sell AW for only £20m when he's on a 5 year contract? Phil Jones was sold for £17m in 2011 and I'd be using that plus the last 12 years player inflation as a starting position.

B'ham got done with the Bellingham price, even though they got close to £30m...3 years later he's going to fetch closer to £130m. Apparently Brum have only got a 5% sell-on.  

Clubs can start the bidding at £40m for Wharton, with a 20% sell-on...and he gets a new X-box every 6 months as part of that deal

We’d even throw in Gallagher for nothing…

[Sweaty Gussets]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

We’d even throw in Gallagher for nothing…

I like Gally. You take Gally's name out your filthy mouth😉

[DE.]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

‘The club has a model and plan with Gregg Broughton that the owners have bought into’

As for the manager... 

[J*B]

I love Adam Wharton as much as the next person, but let’s not forget Bellingham was the best player on the pitch almost every week for Birmingham and was younger than Adam. Adam needs another successful 12 months to be a 25M footballer. 

[Sweaty Gussets]

19 minutes ago, J*B said:

I love Adam Wharton as much as the next person, but let’s not forget Bellingham was the best player on the pitch almost every week for Birmingham and was younger than Adam. Adam needs another successful 12 months to be a 25M footballer. 

Borussia Dortmund were buying potential. So is any team that buys Wharton. 

 

[K-Hod]

On 30/04/2023 at 09:33, BankEnd Rover said:

Imagine paying for that waster’s Patreon…

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, K-Hod said:

Imagine paying for that waster’s Patreon…

no need o pay for it when brfcs and other football related reposted what he has posted