Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach

[Guest]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Mowbray might be available 

Gaz Bowyer also looking for a job 

Might also be able to catch Steve Kean before he boards his flight to Kutaisi.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, 47er said:

If we're going back to a former manager, give me Mark Hughes please.

Not for me matey. I think he’s had his day.

[Mattyblue]

3 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Jesus, Mowbray is history. 

Let it go FFS.

I’m using him as an example of how JDT is not particularly popular at Ewood - so JDT leaving wouldn’t be particularly upsetting for many fans.

Sorry if you are that triggered by an ex run of the mill manager you can’t understand that…

Edited May 21, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Upside Down]

Just now, Mattyblue said:

I’m using him as an example of how JDT is not particularly popular at Ewood - so JDT leaving wouldn’t be particularly upsetting for many fans.

Sorry if you are that triggered by Mogga you can’t understand that…

Seems like you're the one who's triggered here.

[Sweaty Gussets]

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Of course he’d be off like a shot.

My point is Nixon has just gone for the easy angle as he is want to do, especially as I doubt a Lancashire based hack is particularly connected to the inner workings of the Tottenham and Feyenoord boardrooms -It is telling that no other paper is leading with the Feyenoord fella being the favorite for the Spurs job this morning…

Arne Slot: Feyenoord concerned they will lose manager to Tottenham this summer | Football News | Sky Sports

How Tottenham could line up under Arne Slot with two England stars as top transfer targets for summer rebuild | The Sun

Most of them have been for the last week, even yesterday. 

[Mattyblue]

2 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Seems like you're the one who's triggered here.

No it’s definitely you… but then you were calling JDT ‘a dolloper’ who you wanted rid of until a few weeks ago, so who knows where you are coming from.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Mattyblue

[lraC]

6 minutes ago, goozburger said:

Might also be able to catch Steve Kean before he boards his flight to Kutaisi.

He is probably pissed in some taxi rank somewhere 

[Wheelton Blue]

With decent backing this summer, I'm quite optimistic that we'll be on for a decent season under Tomasson.

If he left though? Meh, that's football. There's plenty of examples of managers who've quickly improved sides, and not spent a year forcing a supposed superior style (aka tippy tappy). I'd argue it would be easier to find a manager who plays a simpler, more direct style. 

The worry will be the ability of the club to attract a capable replacement in a timely way.

[Parsonblue]

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Of course he’d be off like a shot.

My point is Nixon has just gone for the easy angle as he is want to do, especially as I doubt a Lancashire based hack is particularly connected to the inner workings of the Tottenham and Feyenoord boardrooms -It is telling that no other paper is leading with the Feyenoord fella being the favorite for the Spurs job this morning…

The back page of the Mirror has an exclusive this morning that Slot's agent is in talks with Spurs and Slot is keen on the move.  If that move happens JDT will obviously be a favourite for the Feyenoord job.  A bit like with Shearer left here to go to Newcastle - Feyenoord is JDT's club.

[Mattyblue]

Just now, Parsonblue said:

The back page of the Mirror has an exclusive this morning that Slot's agent is in talks with Spurs and Slot is keen on the move.  If that move happens JDT will obviously be a favourite for the Feyenoord job.  A bit like with Shearer left here to go to Newcastle - Feyenoord is JDT's club.

Then the Sunday Times says it’s Nagelmanm’s. Who knows? But there’s no point going into meltdown over Sunday paper still season stuff.

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

No it’s definitely you… but then you were calling JDT ‘a dolloper’ who you wanted rid of until a few weeks ago, so who knows where you are coming from.

No, not me, never.

[Sweaty Gussets]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Then the Sunday Times says it’s Nagelmanm’s. Who knows? But there’s no point going into meltdown over Sunday paper still season stuff.

I think you're projecting again!

[JHRover]

It always fascinates me the reaction such 'rumours' get and how quickly they gain traction.

JDT to Feyenoord is not news. It is one of the most logical and obvious potentials in football. He's a legend there, he's worked in Dutch football before, he lives over there, his lad plays there. It's inevitable that they would consider him as an option if they had a vacancy. 

They don't have a vacancy. They might do soon. They will also look at other options like they did 2 years ago when appointing Arne Slot. 

It's been doing the rounds as a possibility on here for the last few weeks because it is obvious.

Then along comes Nixon. He needs something to fill his gossip columns so prints it. Then it all kicks off. It becomes 'fact' that Feyenoord are preparing an approach. Buffoons who write in the Telegraph and Lancs Live, with no sources of their own and desperate for something to write about repeat it. Hey presto, what starts off as a few lines in the Sun to fill up space and get people to buy the rag then appears as 'fact' in the local press, then next news is everyone is asking questions about it convinced it is 'fact' that clubs are in for him.

Might be, might not. But I don't think it helps when such organisations are fanning the flames of speculation and uncertainty. 

 

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

If Russell Martin is GB first target then go and approach Swansea for him. Don't give up just before he gone to Southampton 

IMO, Martin is a w@nker and not for us.

Will bomb at Southampton just as Nathan Jones did (wrong appointment at wrong time).

Edited May 21, 2023 by Mercer

[den]

1 hour ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

I think I read JDT is currently having a house built in Rotterdam. 

 

 

You not getting him confused with Ray Wilkins?

[Mattyblue]

5 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

I think you're projecting again!

Ha not at all. But ok, ‘meltdown’ is a bit pejorative, but you get my point. A lot of moving parts for this to actually happen.

So I’m still relaxed about it at this stage. And if he goes, he goes, if you appoint good quality European managers that are happy to be a gun for hire across the continent, you have to expect them to depart at any time, and I think GB knows that - he had JDT in the door very quickly, so all you can do is have ‘trust in the process’ that he finds another good ‘un.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Mattyblue

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2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

It always fascinates me the reaction such 'rumours' get and how quickly they gain traction.

JDT to Feyenoord is not news. It is one of the most logical and obvious potentials in football. He's a legend there, he's worked in Dutch football before, he lives over there, his lad plays there. It's inevitable that they would consider him as an option if they had a vacancy. 

They don't have a vacancy. They might do soon. They will also look at other options like they did 2 years ago when appointing Arne Slot. 

It's been doing the rounds as a possibility on here for the last few weeks because it is obvious.

Then along comes Nixon. He needs something to fill his gossip columns so prints it. Then it all kicks off. It becomes 'fact' that Feyenoord are preparing an approach. Buffoons who write in the Telegraph and Lancs Live, with no sources of their own and desperate for something to write about repeat it. Hey presto, what starts off as a few lines in the Sun to fill up space and get people to buy the rag then appears as 'fact' in the local press, then next news is everyone is asking questions about it convinced it is 'fact' that clubs are in for him.

Might be, might not. But I don't think it helps when such organisations are fanning the flames of speculation and uncertainty. 

 

You're spot on. But, to be fair, I think we all know the story for what it is. It's just a logical possibility, as you say.

There is one good thing coming out of all of this. How long is it since Rovers had a manager that had attracted interest from clubs with better opportunities? I think Hughes might be the last one. It's not the worst position to be in. Same goes for some of our players. At least the club is doing things far better than it was, even if it's far from perfect.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Does he play the way JDT does? No thanks. We need a replacement if he goes that plays similar cos that our footballing style and structure within the club. I would probably be looking overseas for his replacement 

Bottom line is we need a manager to get us up.

Jones did the spade work at Luton - an excellent Championship team.

If he could complement what we have with some aggression, physicality, will to win and bottle, he'd feckin do for me!  Whether he can do it in the PL - let's get there first.

 

 

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Edited May 21, 2023 by Mercer

[JHRover]

4 minutes ago, goozburger said:

You're spot on. But, to be fair, I think we all know the story for what it is. It's just a logical possibility, as you say.

There is one good thing coming out of all of this. How long is it since Rovers had a manager that had attracted interest from clubs with better opportunities? I think Hughes might be the last one. It's not the worst position to be in. Same goes for some of our players. At least the club is doing things far better than it was, even if it's far from perfect.

Of course IF JDT was to move on to a club like Feyenoord I don't think anyone could reasonably criticise him for doing so. That's without getting into the fact that the club undermined him in January and derailed our season. 

Yet you can be sure there will be Rovers fans accusing him of 'not being in it' for the long run or 'not committed' to the cause and us needing a 'long term' manager.

Of course what they mean and really want is an Uncle Tony type figure, who would never have attracted interest from elsewhere and would have plodded along on the road to nowhere for 7-8 years but would be great to sit and have a brew and biscuits with from time to time.

Of course JDT has demonstrated extreme commitment to this club already, moving across Europe, leaving his wife and kids in Holland, clearly drained after the Millwall game. And to think Mowbray used to act like he was doing us a favour by driving down from Teeside.

[Sweaty Gussets]

9 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Bottom line is we need a manager to get us up.

Jones did the spade work at Luton - an excellent Championship team.

If he could complement what we have with some aggression, physicality, will to win and bottle, he'd feckin do for me!

 

 

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Lets get it in the FECKIN mixer, kick some ARSE, grow some BALLS, and STRAP a pair on. 

Promoted. SIMPLES!

[Mercer]

1 minute ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Lets get it in the FECKIN mixer, kick some ARSE, grow some BALLS, and STRAP a pair on. 

Promoted. SIMPLES!

It can be - not rocket science.

We all knew what we needed in the Jan. window - think Broughton failed big time otherwise we'd be up by now.  Simples!

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Mowbray might be available 

Gaz Bowyer also looking for a job 

I would happily take the lifetime stadium ban I'd get for rushing the dugout and throwing my season ticket at the bench.

[AllRoverAsia]

17 minutes ago, Mercer said:

IMO, Martin is a w@nker and not for us.

Will bomb at Southampton just as Nathan Jones did.

Just imagine:

Waggott - CEO

Egg - DoF

Martin - Manager

If that lineup doesn't make your skin crawl and give you nightmares you're made of sterner stuff than me.

Lickers United 

 

 

[47er]

33 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Not for me matey. I think he’s had his day.

Context!!!  I wrote "if we're going back to a former manager etc..." because that bit of the discussion was about Mowbray/ Bowyer etc admittedly tongue in cheek!

I didn't say, "I think our next manager should be Mark Hughes"!!

But he'd be massively superior to virtually all the dopes we've had.

 

[ben_the_beast]

There's nothing in Nixons JDT article that we don't already know. There have been too many rumours linking him to Leeds, Leicester and Feyernoord. No smoke without fire. 

It all just depends how high he is on their 'lists'. If he's number 1 and an approach is made, he'll be off. Even if GB came back from India with a 'war chest'. 

The only positive is that these rumours have been persisting for a while now. For all his mistakes in January, GB did bring JDT in. Sourcing a list of possible replacements will be his top priority right now. I absolutely don't want JDT to leave but in theory, we're better placed than we ever have been to efficiently bring in a new manager. None of this stage 1, 2, 3 interviews whilst potential replacements lose interest and are put off by our indecision.