Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach

[bazza]

  On 15/06/2022 at 23:18, tomphil said:

I think he was the one who got those pics put up around the place in his earlier years. 

Might have been Bowyer but i'm sure i recal Mowbray saying he wanted the players to be aware of the clubs history and to aspire to it.  Or something along those lines, just shows how his narrative changed to suit once he'd settled in for the plod.

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It was Gary Bowyer who got the pictures back up.

  On 16/06/2022 at 07:18, Mike E said:

Mrs E fancies him now 🤣 last time I heard her react like that to someone, she'd just seen Daniel Craig walk out of the sea in Casino Royale!

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Bo Derek walking out of the sea in "10" got me weak at the knees.

[Mattyblue]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:00, 1864roverite said:

It’s not the creation of an argument it’s a  reasonable question to ask bearing in mind some of the comments being touted

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What’s the question you want answering?

The forum is happy is here.

You are asking why it is isn’t a coup; nobody has said it wasn’t a coup to get a fella that was managing in the CL and winning titles in recent seasons

You’ve asked why posters think Rovers isn’t attractive; nobody has said it isn’t, we are Blackburn Rovers fanatics on this forum, of course we think it’s an attractive job.

So like I said you are stirring again and I don’t know what you are getting out of it…

[bazza]

I was always a pessimist about Rovers but now I am brimming with optimism.

However, Rome wasn't built in a day. We must have patience, especially when we see us lose 2 or 3 on the trot or the team isn't performing to expectations early on. 

I'm expecting a gradual progression and not ending up treading water like under TM.

[eire3382]

Quite a few topics is this tread right now. 
JDT was a steal for this club simple. The credit I think lays with GB. Another good appointment. It seems a universally a popular appointment. On big Sam. Sacking him was nuts and nothing will ever convince me otherwise. Worst of all the Vs decisions. 

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 18/06/2022 at 11:54, martonrover said:

Poor old Tony. Not even the likes of Barnsley wanted him. He'll have to wait until Darlington or Hartlepool are hiring again.

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I think he's waiting for a reply from his PSG job application. 

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 18/06/2022 at 11:54, martonrover said:

Poor old Tony. Not even the likes of Barnsley wanted him. He'll have to wait until Darlington or Hartlepool are hiring again.

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moggadon will resurface somewhere,he`s far to in awe of his own managerial ability to simply walk away from the game ,would`nt be surprised to see him at sheff wed next season if they start badly and darren moore gets the boot

[joey_big_nose]

  On 18/06/2022 at 11:54, martonrover said:

Poor old Tony. Not even the likes of Barnsley wanted him. He'll have to wait until Darlington or Hartlepool are hiring again.

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Give it 6 months, I'm pretty sure he will get another Championship gig.

[Bennisfromheaven]

Regarding Sam, if you asked yourself if you could go back over the last 11 years & re-appoint Sam, would you have done it?

I know what my answer would be!

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 11:06, glen9mullan said:

I went on Holiday Paul, which i am allowed.

Farke was the number 1 target, he was interviewed and walked away, i didn't do the interview and cant make him take the job, so your point quite pedantic.

I won't reveal the sources, (note i said sources not source).

I can assure you it is a fact, 

You seem intent on protecting those at Ewood, maybe because they've afforded you some time for a chat.

However they and they alone are the barrier to progression, not the Owners.

 

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Waffle.

[Mike E]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:39, Paul Mani said:

Waffle.

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He's backed up his rebuttal of your assertions with evidence.

Your assertions have no supporting evidence.

I wonder who to believe?

[roversfan99]

  On 18/06/2022 at 07:56, Paul Mani said:

They really did not.
 

Most of my family and all of my wife’s family are Bolton fans. They all love Sam. He’s a Bolton legend. But they still say his football was terrible and when comparing to their all time great teams prefer the exciting football of Rioch in the Mcginlay era.

Sam was a one trick pony, and a bloody good one at that. But ask any supporter at any club he managed whether they enjoyed the football. The answer is always the same…

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Incorrect. Or as you would describe it, "waffle."

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:43, Mike E said:

He's backed up his rebuttal of your assertions with evidence.

Your assertions have no supporting evidence.

I wonder who to believe?

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He’s backed up literally nothing mate. Zero.

I’m not saying I ‘know’ anything. I’m just saying how can you be so specific, go silent for 10 days and then return when everything has gone the opposite of what you’ve said and profess to have ‘got it right’ by filling in the blanks retrospectively?

Glen’s a good guy and cares deeply about Rovers. I just really don’t believe he was in front of this process. I don’t.

Im entitled to that opinion and no matter how many in here jump to his defence, no doubt hoping to be the recipient of another tid bit of info in the future, you won’t change my mind.

Imo the club are showing shoots of positivity and change, for the reasons I’ve stated.  

[Mattyblue]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:56, Paul Mani said:

 

Imo the club are showing shoots of positivity and change, for the reasons I’ve stated.  

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I’m intrigued with the football side, certainly looks promising, but of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. A DoF and a title winning, CL playing head coach is a new direction and whatever happens it’s worth the gamble for a side that had got very stale. Green shoots? Definitely.

However, the commercial side is in a bigger mess as ever. Waggott has had four years at it, and failed badly. So that’s another area where we desperately need a new broom, and I’ve no idea why he hasn’t been removed, as he has admitted himself that he is repeatedly missing his own targets. Green shoots? No, just weeds.

 

[J*B]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:56, Paul Mani said:

He’s backed up literally nothing mate. Zero.

I’m not saying I ‘know’ anything. I’m just saying how can you be so specific, go silent for 10 days and then return when everything has gone the opposite of what you’ve said and profess to have ‘got it right’ by filling in the blanks retrospectively?

Glen’s a good guy and cares deeply about Rovers. I just really don’t believe he was in front of this process. I don’t.

Im entitled to that opinion and no matter how many in here jump to his defence, no doubt hoping to be the recipient of another tid bit of info in the future, you won’t change my mind.

Imo the club are showing shoots of positivity and change, for the reasons I’ve stated.  

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Tell you what you’re not entitled to do though - get your back stuck up when people say you’re ITK knowledge is wrong (e.g. Mowbray has signed to be WBA manager and is taking Rothwell and Nyambe with him) - then jump on other peoples ITK posts when they turn out to be wrong. 

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:03, J*B said:

Tell you what you’re not entitled to do though - get your back stuck up when people say you’re ITK knowledge is wrong (e.g. Mowbray has signed to be WBA manager and is taking Rothwell and Nyambe with him) - then jump on other peoples ITK posts when they turn out to be wrong. 

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Re read what I said Josh.
 

I never said I knew anything. I said that Joe Rothwells Dad had announced on the train to Coventry to a group of supporters (a couple in here corroborated) that his son was going to Bournemouth on 4x what Rovers had offered and that Venus had been telling Lenihan and Nyambe not sign for anyone else because they believed they were getting the West Brom job. The end.

I didn’t say I was itk, I didn’t hold back my ‘sources’, I didn’t even say it was true, just that the conversation had happened.

[Mike E]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:16, Paul Mani said:

Re read what I said Josh.
 

I never said I knew anything. I said that Joe Rothwells Dad had announced on the train to Coventry to a group of supporters (a couple in here corroborated) that his son was going to Bournemouth on 4x what Rovers had offered and that Venus had been telling Lenihan and Nyambe not sign for anyone else because they believed they were getting the West Brom job. The end.

I didn’t say I was itk, I didn’t hold back my ‘sources’, I didn’t even say it was true, just that the conversation had happened.

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It didn't happen though, did it?

[Armchair supporter supremo]

  On 18/06/2022 at 13:39, Paul Mani said:

Waffle.

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Whether you believe or agree with him you should either reply with the same maturity as Glen does or just shut up and stop harassing the bloke.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:03, J*B said:

Tell you what you’re not entitled to do though - get your back stuck up when people say you’re ITK knowledge is wrong (e.g. Mowbray has signed to be WBA manager and is taking Rothwell and Nyambe with him) - then jump on other peoples ITK posts when they turn out to be wrong. 

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This.

Even Mercer has the grace to hold his hands up when his tales don't come to fruition.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Armchair supporter supremo

[SuperBrfc]

  On 18/06/2022 at 12:38, 1864roverite said:

 

Whether it be Waggot, Cheston or whoever, the club sold itself to JDT and his staff and that is all that really matters.

 

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No, Waggott doesn't deserve credit for selling the club to JDT. That's what you want to read, isn't it? Good man Steve, what a coup he's pulled off.

If it wasn't for Broughton, swag would still be scratching his backside right now wondering what the heck to do on the manager front.

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:03, Mattyblue said:

I’m intrigued with the football side, certainly looks promising, but of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. A DoF and a title winning, CL playing head coach is a new direction and whatever happens it’s worth the gamble for a side that had got very stale. Green shoots? Definitely.

However, the commercial side is in a bigger mess as ever. Waggott has had four years at it, and failed badly. So that’s another area where we desperately need a new broom, and I’ve no idea why he hasn’t been removed, as he has admitted himself that he is repeatedly missing his own targets. Green shoots? No, just weeds.

 

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I don’t think Waggot is the answer. Maybe he’s being utilised as part of the transition. The introduction of GB feels like the beginning of the end for him. My guess is that he will leave in the next 12 months to be replaced by a ‘Commercial Director’.

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:17, Mike E said:

It didn't happen though, did it?

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Mate, I didn’t say it would? 🤣🤣🤣

I simply passed on a conversation that had happened on a train. I didn’t clean it up or try to break an exclusive. I didn’t profess to know anything?

I passed the info on and everyone was free to believe Rothwells dad, or not? 

[Mike E]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:23, Paul Mani said:

Mate, I didn’t say it would? 🤣🤣🤣

I simply passed on a conversation that had happened on a train. I didn’t clean it up or try to break an exclusive. I didn’t profess to know anything?

I passed the info on and everyone was free to believe Rothwells dad, or not? 

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You misunderstood. 'It' being the conversation.

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:17, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Whether you believe or agree with him you should either reply with the same maturity as Glen does or just shut up and stop harassing the bloke.

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My apologies, if harassing him is saying I don’t believe him and then being accused of ‘protecting Directors because they’ve afforded me their time’, then you’ve got me!

The post from Glen was waffle, he’s a big boy, I’m sure he’ll get over it. 

[Paul Mani]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:24, Mike E said:

You misunderstood. 'It' being the conversation.

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Ahh so you don’t think the conversation happened? As I recall it, I a couple of other posters were in the carriage at the time and confirmed - but if you don’t believe it, that’s cool. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[J*B]

  On 18/06/2022 at 14:29, Paul Mani said:

Ahh so you don’t think the conversation happened? As I recall it, I a couple of other posters were in the carriage at the time and confirmed - but if you don’t believe it, that’s cool. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Just like if you don’t believe what Glen has heard is true, that’s cool too. See - we’ve come full circle.