Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach

[Roverthechimp]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i give eustace till the summer transfer window,when he comes into pre season training and finds out that his best players are to be sold then he`ll turn and run quicker than the tide at arnside😁

You missed a step - the players will be sold with his agreement based on an an understanding that he can reinvest the money to improve the squad…

When the “hand grenade” is chucked in with 5 days of the window left then maybe he will run… (unless, like JDT, they demand payment to release him from his contract 

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Roverthechimp said:

You missed a step - the players will be sold with his agreement based on an an understanding that he can reinvest the money to improve the squad…

When the “hand grenade” is chucked in with 5 days of the window left then maybe he will run… (unless, like JDT, they demand payment to release him from his contract 

whatever the scenario,the future is a cluster**** with the current regime

[NeilInBristol]

44 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

whatever the scenario,the future is a cluster**** with the current regime

if you think about it, JE was unattached, earning nothing. this is a great gig.

he gets paid

if he leaves just like JDT left, with the above grenade or not, he will have increased his stock and worth as he has added another club to his job history and he gets the bonus of blaming the useless owners who didnt invest.

win win

 

its a poisoned challice for a rovers fan but a great gig for an unemployed coach, win win

[Penwortham Blue]

Patomine defending, FFS

[Penwortham Blue]

Moran is so weak, also Garrett, just not physical enough.

[Penwortham Blue]

Can anyone see this lot having the balls to win at Knob End on Saturday ?

[Penwortham Blue]

Rather Fleck than Garrett

[Penwortham Blue]

Apologies, all above in wrong thread 🙈

[Danishfan]

Podcast with JDT: Everyday life in Blackburn

I don´t know if anyone still interested, but I decided to take the chance.

I have just listend to a Danish podcast with Jon and Troels Bech - Troels is a former coach, and it is like a coach to coach talk, the podcast was published on 23. october 2023. Don´t know how I missed it then, but I did. 

This podcast is so interesting on so many levels.

JDT talks about the difference in coaching/being the leader in England and in Scandinavia and Holland. He is used to everybody in the staff speaking their mind and being critical, and is used to a more democratic way of leadership. In England, the boss is the boss, and if he says "turn left" everybody turn left.  Remy and Ben Rosens tasks were, amongst many other things, to be critical and voice it to Jon. He talks about the hard time getting fans and players used to a new style of playing, and how he dealt with it.

I think Remy has been very anonymous, but JDT said: "Dutch people are so critical, saying it as it is, and never shut up" 🙂

He is so well spoken and even more so in his native language. He talks about his visions and ambitions, his care, love and pride for the youth department, and how proud he is of the fact that all Youth departments are now playing the style he wants for the first team. He is so passionate and devoted.

He praises the staff, and talks about all their different tasks. Personally I am chocked about the amount of staff members - almost more staff than first team players 🙂 He had 3 ass. coaches, a keeper coach and ass, keeper coach, a physical coach and 2 ass., 3 video analytics, 4 young lads from University who helps with the video analytics, 4 physiotherapists, and then there is the recruitment team, which he is not in charge of. He talks about hour long meetings  with staff and players and a 24/7 job.

He also talks a lot about the supporters, how much he admires the passion and the love for their club,  how much money they spend for tickets, travelling etc., and how important it is to show respect and pay something back to them. He has studied the culture and history of way of living in Blackburn, not just the football aspect of it. He talks with so much respect for fans, players and staff. 

He said, that it came as a chock in the summer, that the budget had been cut. He was told the day before he was to return from his summer holiday, By then Rovers had already let 13 players leave in the hope to sign a lot of new players, which didn´t happen.

The podcast is 1 hour, and this is just a very short summary. He talks about lots of other tings, i.e about handling the media, the expectations and pressure, and about when it it doesn´t go as planned.

I know, I am biased, but I really think that JDTs departure is a great loss. Imagine what it could have been like, if Venkys hadn´t cut the budget - he would have taken Rovers to PL.

I am sure, the new coach is good and will do his his best - but from my point of view, there is a great difference in the level of ambition between the two coaches.

And for you, Callum Brittain, have you ever heard of hybris and nemesis?

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/jon-dahl-tomasson-hverdagen-i-blackburn/id1501407342?i=1000632347251

 

 

[Trinidad Rover]

16 minutes ago, Danishfan said:

Podcast with JDT: Everyday life in Blackburn

I don´t know if anyone still interested, but I decided to take the chance.

I have just listend to a Danish podcast with Jon and Troels Bech - Troels is a former coach, and it is like a coach to coach talk, the podcast was published on 23. october 2023. Don´t know how I missed it then, but I did. 

This podcast is so interesting on so many levels.

JDT talks about the difference in coaching/being the leader in England and in Scandinavia and Holland. He is used to everybody in the staff speaking their mind and being critical, and is used to a more democratic way of leadership. In England, the boss is the boss, and if he says "turn left" everybody turn left.  Remy and Ben Rosens tasks were, amongst many other things, to be critical and voice it to Jon. He talks about the hard time getting fans and players used to a new style of playing, and how he dealt with it.

I think Remy has been very anonymous, but JDT said: "Dutch people are so critical, saying it as it is, and never shut up" 🙂

He is so well spoken and even more so in his native language. He talks about his visions and ambitions, his care, love and pride for the youth department, and how proud he is of the fact that all Youth departments are now playing the style he wants for the first team. He is so passionate and devoted.

He praises the staff, and talks about all their different tasks. Personally I am chocked about the amount of staff members - almost more staff than first team players 🙂 He had 3 ass. coaches, a keeper coach and ass, keeper coach, a physical coach and 2 ass., 3 video analytics, 4 young lads from University who helps with the video analytics, 4 physiotherapists, and then there is the recruitment team, which he is not in charge of. He talks about hour long meetings  with staff and players and a 24/7 job.

He also talks a lot about the supporters, how much he admires the passion and the love for their club,  how much money they spend for tickets, travelling etc., and how important it is to show respect and pay something back to them. He has studied the culture and history of way of living in Blackburn, not just the football aspect of it. He talks with so much respect for fans, players and staff. 

He said, that it came as a chock in the summer, that the budget had been cut. He was told the day before he was to return from his summer holiday, By then Rovers had already let 13 players leave in the hope to sign a lot of new players, which didn´t happen.

The podcast is 1 hour, and this is just a very short summary. He talks about lots of other tings, i.e about handling the media, the expectations and pressure, and about when it it doesn´t go as planned.

I know, I am biased, but I really think that JDTs departure is a great loss. Imagine what it could have been like, if Venkys hadn´t cut the budget - he would have taken Rovers to PL.

I am sure, the new coach is good and will do his his best - but from my point of view, there is a great difference in the level of ambition between the two coaches.

And for you, Callum Brittain, have you ever heard of hybris and nemesis?

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/jon-dahl-tomasson-hverdagen-i-blackburn/id1501407342?i=1000632347251

 

 

Thank you for sharing this.

Confirms a lot of what I already believed to be the case. JDT is a class act. Ultimately, he was failed by the club and not the other way round. If he had got what he wanted in the summer, 'the project' would have continued and I believe eventually he would have got us to the PL.

I also agree and feel like we have downgraded with Eustace. Nothing against him, of course he would take the job. He should be honored to. He has a minute fraction of JDTs pedigree and standing in the game and strikes me as a bit of a standard journeyman football coach. He is less articulate in his interviews that JDT and uses cliché after cliché, its horrible to listen to - particularly in the knowledge he is towing the party line; togetherness bla bla bla. It is dumbing down of expectations and a regression in my view.

The problem was never the manager, it was the owners and those charlatans who lied and broke promises. I was extremely excited at the end of last season.

What could, and should, have been.

Edited February 16, 2024 by Trinidad Rover

[tomphil]

19 minutes ago, Danishfan said:

Podcast with JDT: Everyday life in Blackburn

I don´t know if anyone still interested, but I decided to take the chance.

I have just listend to a Danish podcast with Jon and Troels Bech - Troels is a former coach, and it is like a coach to coach talk, the podcast was published on 23. october 2023. Don´t know how I missed it then, but I did. 

This podcast is so interesting on so many levels.

JDT talks about the difference in coaching/being the leader in England and in Scandinavia and Holland. He is used to everybody in the staff speaking their mind and being critical, and is used to a more democratic way of leadership. In England, the boss is the boss, and if he says "turn left" everybody turn left.  Remy and Ben Rosens tasks were, amongst many other things, to be critical and voice it to Jon. He talks about the hard time getting fans and players used to a new style of playing, and how he dealt with it.

I think Remy has been very anonymous, but JDT said: "Dutch people are so critical, saying it as it is, and never shut up" 🙂

He is so well spoken and even more so in his native language. He talks about his visions and ambitions, his care, love and pride for the youth department, and how proud he is of the fact that all Youth departments are now playing the style he wants for the first team. He is so passionate and devoted.

He praises the staff, and talks about all their different tasks. Personally I am chocked about the amount of staff members - almost more staff than first team players 🙂 He had 3 ass. coaches, a keeper coach and ass, keeper coach, a physical coach and 2 ass., 3 video analytics, 4 young lads from University who helps with the video analytics, 4 physiotherapists, and then there is the recruitment team, which he is not in charge of. He talks about hour long meetings  with staff and players and a 24/7 job.

He also talks a lot about the supporters, how much he admires the passion and the love for their club,  how much money they spend for tickets, travelling etc., and how important it is to show respect and pay something back to them. He has studied the culture and history of way of living in Blackburn, not just the football aspect of it. He talks with so much respect for fans, players and staff. 

He said, that it came as a chock in the summer, that the budget had been cut. He was told the day before he was to return from his summer holiday, By then Rovers had already let 13 players leave in the hope to sign a lot of new players, which didn´t happen.

The podcast is 1 hour, and this is just a very short summary. He talks about lots of other tings, i.e about handling the media, the expectations and pressure, and about when it it doesn´t go as planned.

I know, I am biased, but I really think that JDTs departure is a great loss. Imagine what it could have been like, if Venkys hadn´t cut the budget - he would have taken Rovers to PL.

I am sure, the new coach is good and will do his his best - but from my point of view, there is a great difference in the level of ambition between the two coaches.

And for you, Callum Brittain, have you ever heard of hybris and nemesis?

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/jon-dahl-tomasson-hverdagen-i-blackburn/id1501407342?i=1000632347251

 

 

The club have blown it big style with him all he needed was similar backing to Mowbray and i firmly believe we'd be far better off this season.

It wouldn't have been without flaws that style of football can cause it's own problem but being allowed to add a couple more the calibre of Tronsdat would have helped immensly.

He and we have been royally shafted by the continuing stupid ownership and the ambitionless pairing of Waggot and shadow who now seem to have a vice like grip on the club.

We needed to think out the box, needed something a bit different and a new culture at the club after the steady but dour previous regime.  They found it, they blew it.

Edited February 16, 2024 by tomphil

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, tomphil said:

The club have blown it big style with him all he needed was similar backing to Mowbray and i firmly believe we'd be far better off this season.

It wouldn't have been without flaws that style of football can cause it's own problem but being allowed to add a couple more the calibre of Tronsdat would have helped immensly.

He and we have been royally shafted by the continuing stupid ownership and the ambitionless pairing of Waggot and shadow who now seem to have a vice like grip on the club.

We needed to think out the box, needed something a bit different and a new culture at the club after the steady but dour previous regime.  They found it, they blew it.

Nah, they just need to sell the club now.

 

I have no time for venkys and even less for anyone that supports them. 

[simongarnerisgod]

33 minutes ago, tomphil said:

We needed to think out the box, needed something a bit different and a new culture at the club after the steady but dour previous regime.  They found it, they blew it.

Edited 31 minutes ago by tomphil

they did the same to bowyer,lambert and in the end even mowbray was impeded from further progress,imo they definately don`t want promotion

[tomphil]

7 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they did the same to bowyer,lambert and in the end even mowbray was impeded from further progress,imo they definately don`t want promotion

Like we've said before the '20 million a season' strapline covers for an awful lot of self inflicted obstacles to progress.

[NeilInBristol]

3 hours ago, Danishfan said:

Podcast with JDT: Everyday life in Blackburn

I don´t know if anyone still interested, but I decided to take the chance.

I have just listend to a Danish podcast with Jon and Troels Bech - Troels is a former coach, and it is like a coach to coach talk, the podcast was published on 23. october 2023. Don´t know how I missed it then, but I did. 

This podcast is so interesting on so many levels.

JDT talks about the difference in coaching/being the leader in England and in Scandinavia and Holland. He is used to everybody in the staff speaking their mind and being critical, and is used to a more democratic way of leadership. In England, the boss is the boss, and if he says "turn left" everybody turn left.  Remy and Ben Rosens tasks were, amongst many other things, to be critical and voice it to Jon. He talks about the hard time getting fans and players used to a new style of playing, and how he dealt with it.

I think Remy has been very anonymous, but JDT said: "Dutch people are so critical, saying it as it is, and never shut up" 🙂

He is so well spoken and even more so in his native language. He talks about his visions and ambitions, his care, love and pride for the youth department, and how proud he is of the fact that all Youth departments are now playing the style he wants for the first team. He is so passionate and devoted.

He praises the staff, and talks about all their different tasks. Personally I am chocked about the amount of staff members - almost more staff than first team players 🙂 He had 3 ass. coaches, a keeper coach and ass, keeper coach, a physical coach and 2 ass., 3 video analytics, 4 young lads from University who helps with the video analytics, 4 physiotherapists, and then there is the recruitment team, which he is not in charge of. He talks about hour long meetings  with staff and players and a 24/7 job.

He also talks a lot about the supporters, how much he admires the passion and the love for their club,  how much money they spend for tickets, travelling etc., and how important it is to show respect and pay something back to them. He has studied the culture and history of way of living in Blackburn, not just the football aspect of it. He talks with so much respect for fans, players and staff. 

He said, that it came as a chock in the summer, that the budget had been cut. He was told the day before he was to return from his summer holiday, By then Rovers had already let 13 players leave in the hope to sign a lot of new players, which didn´t happen.

The podcast is 1 hour, and this is just a very short summary. He talks about lots of other tings, i.e about handling the media, the expectations and pressure, and about when it it doesn´t go as planned.

I know, I am biased, but I really think that JDTs departure is a great loss. Imagine what it could have been like, if Venkys hadn´t cut the budget - he would have taken Rovers to PL.

I am sure, the new coach is good and will do his his best - but from my point of view, there is a great difference in the level of ambition between the two coaches.

And for you, Callum Brittain, have you ever heard of hybris and nemesis?

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/jon-dahl-tomasson-hverdagen-i-blackburn/id1501407342?i=1000632347251

 

 

Is this in Danish or English?

[tomphil]

32 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

Is this in Danish or English?

Could be in viking or eskimo, he speaks many languages after all, a very intelligent man not like some British mercenary managers.

[NeilInBristol]

23 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Could be in viking or eskimo, he speaks many languages after all, a very intelligent man not like some British mercenary managers.

Lol. I was going to listen but won't search for it if it's not in English 

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, NeilInBristol said:

Lol. I was going to listen but won't search for it if it's not in English 

[arbitro]

13 hours ago, Danishfan said:

Podcast with JDT: Everyday life in Blackburn

I don´t know if anyone still interested, but I decided to take the chance.

I have just listend to a Danish podcast with Jon and Troels Bech - Troels is a former coach, and it is like a coach to coach talk, the podcast was published on 23. october 2023. Don´t know how I missed it then, but I did. 

This podcast is so interesting on so many levels.

JDT talks about the difference in coaching/being the leader in England and in Scandinavia and Holland. He is used to everybody in the staff speaking their mind and being critical, and is used to a more democratic way of leadership. In England, the boss is the boss, and if he says "turn left" everybody turn left.  Remy and Ben Rosens tasks were, amongst many other things, to be critical and voice it to Jon. He talks about the hard time getting fans and players used to a new style of playing, and how he dealt with it.

I think Remy has been very anonymous, but JDT said: "Dutch people are so critical, saying it as it is, and never shut up" 🙂

He is so well spoken and even more so in his native language. He talks about his visions and ambitions, his care, love and pride for the youth department, and how proud he is of the fact that all Youth departments are now playing the style he wants for the first team. He is so passionate and devoted.

He praises the staff, and talks about all their different tasks. Personally I am chocked about the amount of staff members - almost more staff than first team players 🙂 He had 3 ass. coaches, a keeper coach and ass, keeper coach, a physical coach and 2 ass., 3 video analytics, 4 young lads from University who helps with the video analytics, 4 physiotherapists, and then there is the recruitment team, which he is not in charge of. He talks about hour long meetings  with staff and players and a 24/7 job.

He also talks a lot about the supporters, how much he admires the passion and the love for their club,  how much money they spend for tickets, travelling etc., and how important it is to show respect and pay something back to them. He has studied the culture and history of way of living in Blackburn, not just the football aspect of it. He talks with so much respect for fans, players and staff. 

He said, that it came as a chock in the summer, that the budget had been cut. He was told the day before he was to return from his summer holiday, By then Rovers had already let 13 players leave in the hope to sign a lot of new players, which didn´t happen.

The podcast is 1 hour, and this is just a very short summary. He talks about lots of other tings, i.e about handling the media, the expectations and pressure, and about when it it doesn´t go as planned.

I know, I am biased, but I really think that JDTs departure is a great loss. Imagine what it could have been like, if Venkys hadn´t cut the budget - he would have taken Rovers to PL.

I am sure, the new coach is good and will do his his best - but from my point of view, there is a great difference in the level of ambition between the two coaches.

And for you, Callum Brittain, have you ever heard of hybris and nemesis?

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/jon-dahl-tomasson-hverdagen-i-blackburn/id1501407342?i=1000632347251

 

 

Thanks for sharing this.

It saddens me how poorly he was treated in the Summer of 23. It's telling that he let thirteen players go and had plans to replace them when his budget was slashed. I suppose it was inevitable at that point that the best manager we have had in over thirteen years wouldn't see his contract out.

F**k Venkys and all their acolytes.

[NeilInBristol]

9 hours ago, Upside Down said:

 

Yep it's in Danish. Well I trust your summary @Danishfan thanks for summarising. 

[Ianrally]

Given that Jan Molby finished his career in England speaking with a scouse accent, I would imagine JDT could eventually have spoken with a Lancashire accent if he had been given the time.

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, Ianrally said:

Given that Jan Molby finished his career in England speaking with a scouse accent, I would imagine JDT could eventually have spoken with a Lancashire accent if he had been given the time.

Ey up cocker. In that way appn.

[philipl]

I am missing JDT Press conferences

[tomphil]

What would he have blamed today's likely defeat on i wonder.....

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, tomphil said:

What would he have blamed today's likely defeat on i wonder.....

The fact he's had all his best players taken away and replaced with shite, if replaced at all.

Luckily there are none of these "excuses" with the new fella, he must just be a shit manager.

Personally I don't think losing to Big Club and drawing with Preston is anywhere near good enough.

For all JDTs failings at least he was honest in saying he hadn't been given the tools he needed for the job. The new fella says he has. So why the fuck didn't we win these two games then?