Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach

[JHRover]

This is what you tend to find with the better managers with burning ambition to succeed and quickly.

JDT was never here to plod along for years on end (unlike his predecessor). He was here to be successful, and quickly, and had the club supported him in his quest he would have got us into the play-offs and who knows where we'd be now.

I think it is inevitable that when such a character goes into a club and injects a winning mentality into a group accustomed to the old uncle Tony 'arm around the shoulder' routine it will end up upsetting a few.

You hear about this sort of stuff with Mourinho, Van Gaal and other world class coaches - they go in somewhere, immediately and ruthlessly deliver improvement and usually success, and then afterwards you get some players grumbling about them or not happy with how things went.

Too much of a happy camp down there and has been for years. From the 'right good go' days of Bowyer to the 'we don't want a double promotion we want to stabilise in the Championship' uncle Tony.

[roverblue]

Again not surprised the players weren't happy, especially the defensive ones which were hung out to dry by JDT suicide football. If I was left in regular 3 vs 1 scenarios or being given a hospital pass in their own area whilst being closed down by the opposition I would feel the same.

Either way it didn't need to be said, just go out and win some matches. There is far too much talk from the players, manager, DOF at the moment without the results to go with them.

[Mattyblue]

That’s this season, that wasn’t the tactic last season which SW is largely moaning about. We were a  very decent side last season as league and cup showed.

Pathetic, loser talk. Which is what most of them are.

Edited March 28, 2024 by Mattyblue

[superniko]

Best league finish since relegation and the closest we've come to Wembley in the FA Cup both last season.....so not a clue what Wharton is banging on about, it's worth noting some of his mistakes at the end of season could be good reason as to why we didn't make the playoffs in the end.

As others have said, it's loser talk, laying blame at someone no longer around.

[JHRover]

Probably instructed to do so by Waggott and shadow man. Blame the external factors, never hold those inside the club responsible for our failings.

[simongarnerisgod]

19 minutes ago, superniko said:

Best league finish since relegation and the closest we've come to Wembley in the FA Cup both last season.....so not a clue what Wharton is banging on about, it's worth noting some of his mistakes at the end of season could be good reason as to why we didn't make the playoffs in the end.

As others have said, it's loser talk, laying blame at someone no longer around.

the players will be getting away with a more relaxed regime under eustace as manager,thats why they are being so complimentary about him,jdt was extremely driven and if you wer`nt doing it on the pitch then you wer`nt playing in saturday

[Tom]

I’d rather players, managers and anyone interviewed showed more honesty rather than talking in platitudes so for that I say fair play to him 

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, Tom said:

I’d rather players, managers and anyone interviewed showed more honesty rather than talking in platitudes so for that I say fair play to him 

But if he's being really honest he will admit for large parts of last season he was nowhere near the levels he had been previous. That's the reason why he wasn't playing much. Carter was much better.

 

Edited March 28, 2024 by Hasta

[Ewood Ace]

5 minutes ago, Tom said:

I’d rather players, managers and anyone interviewed showed more honesty rather than talking in platitudes so for that I say fair play to him 

I'd rather he looked himself in the mirror instead of blaming someone else for his own failures. Wharton's attitude is typical of the modern footballer.

[arbitro]

It's disappointing that Scott has come out with this. It seems to me that his grievance started with not getting in the team for the Burnley match (which Tomasson screwed up in) and the good form of Hyam and Carter coupled with his individual errors meant he wasn't picked. That's football and to bleat about it now doesn't do him any favours.

It will be interesting what Eustace does when Carter is fit.

[NeilInBristol]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Probably instructed to do so by Waggott and shadow man. Blame the external factors, never hold those inside the club responsible for our failings.

Agreed.

He's being paid by the club.

Jdt isn't here anymore.

This is a timely interview when the team is down the bottom and instead of taking responsibility the club put out interviews with players moaning about last season.

Very stupid.

Last season was our best run in and opportunity to get promoted since them lot took over and they shanked it.

 

Players like SW are to blamed.

 

I can't see JE getting us to 7th next season 

[simongarnerisgod]

2 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

I can't see JE getting us to 7th next season 

we won`t get to 7th in league one😁

[AllRoverAsia]

I've just read the piece by the crybaby Scott Wharton.

Disgraceful behaviour.

No wonder JDT alledgedly lost the dressing room with shysters like Wharton running it as a so called senior player.

He's honest? you are taking the fecking piss.

[Upside Down]

Yet more displays of absolutely pathetic behaviour from the shittest squad we've ever had. 

I have absolutely no time for any of them. They are soft as shit and get outdone, out muscled and easily brushed aside by anyone and every one. Soft cunts the lot of them. 

Not one of these soft crybabies would last more than four seconds with Souness, Hughes, Allardyce, Dalglish or even Roy Hodgson. 

The reason we are so shit, the reason we automatically lose a game when going a goal down, the reason we failed to make the playoffs and the reason we'll be relegated maybe this year and definitely next is because of the shit soft arsed players we have. Fuck the lot of them. 

Fuck off Scott Wharton. JDT is a Champions League winner, you are a second tier dolloper. I know who I would have gotten rid of from this club. 

Edited March 28, 2024 by Upside Down

[chaddyrovers]

I found Scott Wharton interesting about JDT's man management style, playing style and him being dropped for the Burnley game. 

Scott is still feeling gutted about being dropped by JDT for the Burnley game which JDT did ballsed up. 

Scott Wharton wasn't at his best form last season but was that not down to being a bit part player and lack of game time. Which is fair comment but JDT did over achieved and players seem to enjoyed playing under JDT. 

Catch 22 situation here.  

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I found Scott Wharton interesting about JDT's man management style, playing style and him being dropped for the Burnley game. 

Scott is still feeling gutted about being dropped by JDT for the Burnley game which JDT did ballsed up. 

Scott Wharton wasn't at his best form last season but was that not down to being a bit part player and lack of game time. Which is fair comment but JDT did over achieved and players seem to enjoyed playing under JDT. 

Catch 22 situation here.  

Remember when we kept saying the players weren’t happy with JDT and you kept denying it and quoting one of the new players as saying he’s loving playing under JDT. Well it seems Brittain, Wharton and several others couldn’t, or wouldn’t, buy in to what he was trying to achieve.

That style of football you championed so much was hated by the players, and ultimately they saw to it that performances dropped away until they got rid of him. Unfortunately we are now finding out that under more conventional tactics, they are actually pretty average and JDT had them over performing. If I was Brittain or Wharton I’d be keeping quiet now and working hard, not coming out doing that interview. Especially when relegation is still a real worry. What a prick.

Edited March 28, 2024 by Hasta

[Polky]

 

Edited March 28, 2024 by Polky

[Upside Down]

17 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

So now this is where we are, Burton Albion is a step up from Blackburn Rovers. 

Fuck off venkys. I hope you all die of bird flu.

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Remember when we kept saying the players weren’t happy with JDT and you kept denying it and quoting one of the new players as saying he’s loving playing under JDT. Well it seems Brittain, Wharton and several others couldn’t, or wouldn’t, buy in the what he was trying to achieve.

That style of football you championed so much was hated by the players, and ultimately they saw to it that performances dropped away and they got rid of him. Unfortunately we are now finding out that under more conventional tactics, they are actually pretty average and JDT had them over performing. If I was Brittain or Wharton I’d be keeping quiet now and working hard, not coming out doing that interview. Especially when relegation is still a real worry. What a prick.

The players were happy last season otherwise would we finish 7th last season? 

We were 7th in December but then the wheels came off and we were in free fall. Maybe some players wanted a change of tactics or how set plays were done or some tweaks to the playing style. 

I still want us to play good attacking football whilst being good defensively and score goals from set pieces.

We didn't need to be so open in play looking back or don't play inverted full backs or play out from the keeper as we discussed earlier

[AllRoverAsia]

I had to read carefully as I was worried I was in a time warp.

It appears more likely the freefall this season was player inspired.

[Hasta]

38 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We were 7th in December but then the wheels came off and we were in free fall.

Yeah Andy Bayes shoots Gregg down on that one.

[chaddyrovers]

19 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Yeah Andy Bayes shoots Gregg down on that one.

not listened to that interview yet

[roversfan99]

Good attacking football, solid defensively and scoring from set pieces? Not sure Eustace has got that memo yet.

Wharton isnt the first to slate Tomasson and is seemingly another made up that he has gone. We could probably do with actually winning a game under the new manager before hearing another player spout hot air about how glad they are of the change.

[Upside Down]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Good attacking football, solid defensively and scoring from set pieces? Not sure Eustace has got that memo yet.

Wharton isnt the first to slate Tomasson and is seemingly another made up that he has gone. We could probably do with actually winning a game under the new manager before hearing another player spout hot air about how glad they are of the change.

They're just happy that things are back to the good old days when they weren't ever held to account for being shit and a bunch of soft cunts.

[M_B]

We were in freefall under Tomasson and going down. 

Some of the football under him, especially earlier this season, was as good as we've seen for a good while, but he obviously lacked the nous to turn around the form when a different approach was required. 

We were/are in a tailspin, hopefully Eustace can pull that nose up before we crash land into League 1.