Premier League 22-23

[bazza]

I don't feel anything for Southampton fans. Glad they're down. Also my arms are open to receive Leicester and Leeds.  Leicester were 1000/1 to win the prem according to the bookies the season they actually won it. I knew it wouldn't last and that within a few seasons they'd be relegated.

Bring it on.

[Oldgregg86]

4 minutes ago, bazza said:

I don't feel anything for Southampton fans. Glad they're down. Also my arms are open to receive Leicester and Leeds.  Leicester were 1000/1 to win the prem according to the bookies the season they actually won it. I knew it wouldn't last and that within a few seasons they'd be relegated.

Bring it on.

I’d rather see Everton come down

[bazza]

1 minute ago, Oldgregg86 said:

I’d rather see Everton come down

No. Not for me. If I didn't support Rovers and had to choose a big city club it would be Everton. I've thought this for a couple of decades.

[Mercer]

43 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

that is one of the worst managerial appointments ever,you have to feel for southampton fans

Nathan Jones followed by Russell Martin - God strewth.

Think the lunatics are in charge of the asylum!

[DE.]

On 18/05/2023 at 20:27, roversfan99 said:

McAllister is 24! Is that particularly young? 

(Not aimed at you chaddy, aimed at the awards)

I believe 24 is the cut off for what is classified as a young player in these awards. Not sure why it's that age specifically mind. 

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, DE. said:

I believe 24 is the cut off for what is classified as a young player in these awards. Not sure why it's that age specifically mind. 

The age I consider to be young goes up annually on my birthday 😁

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Mercer said:

Nathan Jones followed by Russell Martin - God strewth.

Think the lunatics are in charge of the asylum!

Well it won't be Potter or Rodgers as you said it would be. Another one of your tips that didn't happened. I'm running out of pages in my book for these 🤣

[Guest]

Oof! @Sweaty Gussets where's the aloe vera meme? Deserves another roll-out!

[Sweaty Gussets]

1 hour ago, goozburger said:

Oof! @Sweaty Gussets where's the aloe vera meme? Deserves another roll-out!

I think we've run out. We're going to have to crowdfund a BRFCS Burns Unit. 

[Ianrally]

Just watched Raya pull off two world class saves for Brentford. This from a keeper who Mowbray said wasn’t up to the mark and is now valued at 40m.  Was there a sell on fee when we got rid? 

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Ianrally said:

Just watched Raya pull off two world class saves for Brentford. This from a keeper who Mowbray said wasn’t up to the mark and is now valued at 40m.  Was there a sell on fee when we got rid? 

yes,not sure of the percentage

 

[JacknOry]

we probably have to pay 10% on top of the fee knowing this lot

[JacknOry]

"Thinks he will play Premier League one day" 

Let's see...

[philipl]

5 minutes ago, Ianrally said:

Just watched Raya pull off two world class saves for Brentford. This from a keeper who Mowbray said wasn’t up to the mark and is now valued at 40m.  Was there a sell on fee when we got rid? 

I believe it is 10% on any profit on sale.

We have received 3.5m on transfer + 1m on promotion + 1m on first Spanish cap. 

So if the fee were 40m, we would receive an additional 3.45m.

Given the prices international class keepers command these days, I'd hope he would go for a lot more than 40m.

[roversfan99]

Whilst it is definitely a valid argument to suggest that we sold Raya for a low fee and it was a short term move, he made so many mistake in that first season up and he wasn't a patch on the keeper he is today, and likely wouldn't be close to it even now without the coaching and development he has got at Brentford.

The year with Walton was a joke, but what frustrates me more at this current time is that we did (a year too late) get an excellent replacement in Kaminski and we are probably going to sell him to go back to having someone bang average in net instead.

[philipl]

The Premier League is showing its competitiveness.

The European Super League wannabes in other countries are good for European qualification - all in the Champions League except AC Milan.

But only 3 of the English "Big" 6 are headed for the Champions League and 2 will probably miss out on European football altogether.

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, philipl said:

I believe it is 10% on any profit on sale.

We have received 3.5m on transfer + 1m on promotion + 1m on first Spanish cap. 

So if the fee were 40m, we would receive an additional 3.45m.

Given the prices international class keepers command these days, I'd hope he would go for a lot more than 40m.

Who are you thinking? There are only 3 keepers who have ever gone for more than 40m, one was Buffon over 20 years ago, one was Alisson and the other was the curious Kepa deal.

[JacknOry]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Whilst it is definitely a valid argument to suggest that we sold Raya for a low fee and it was a short term move, he made so many mistake in that first season up and he wasn't a patch on the keeper he is today, and likely wouldn't be close to it even now without the coaching and development he has got at Brentford.

The year with Walton was a joke, but what frustrates me more at this current time is that we did (a year too late) get an excellent replacement in Kaminski and we are probably going to sell him to go back to having someone bang average in net instead.

 

Selling Raya for 3.5 then is like us selling Wharton for 5 million now. Many could see the potential of Raya - and if it's a club like Brentford that was/is renowned for its recruitment is bidding, surely you think twice about selling? They certainly knew they were getting a player that would likely bring them a big return on that investment.

[simongarnerisgod]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Whilst it is definitely a valid argument to suggest that we sold Raya for a low fee and it was a short term move, he made so many mistake in that first season up and he wasn't a patch on the keeper he is today, and likely wouldn't be close to it even now without the coaching and development he has got at Brentford.

The year with Walton was a joke, but what frustrates me more at this current time is that we did (a year too late) get an excellent replacement in Kaminski and we are probably going to sell him to go back to having someone bang average in net instead.

he made mistakes because he had two converted midfielders in front of him as centre backs(mulgrew could`nt cope and rodwell was`nt interested)any keeper would be helpless in that situation,every time a set piece came across there was mass panic,raya could`nt trust his two defenders

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

yes,not sure of the percentage

 

12.5% percentage Rich Sharpe has tweet earlier this week

[Exiled_Rover]

18 hours ago, bazza said:

I don't feel anything for Southampton fans. Glad they're down. Also my arms are open to receive Leicester and Leeds.  Leicester were 1000/1 to win the prem according to the bookies the season they actually won it. I knew it wouldn't last and that within a few seasons they'd be relegated.

Bring it on.

I don't feel anything for fans of any other club after we were lambasted for our protests against the Venkys and Kean. 

Fuck every single one of them. 

[ben_the_beast]

1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

Selling Raya for 3.5 then is like us selling Wharton for 5 million now. Many could see the potential of Raya - and if it's a club like Brentford that was/is renowned for its recruitment is bidding, surely you think twice about selling? They certainly knew they were getting a player that would likely bring them a big return on that investment.

And if you're dead set on selling, you negotiate a very healthy sell on fee. For me the minimum should have been 25%. 

Even more infuriating is the actual sell on fee we negotiated (12.5%) was only one season after we agreed to a 40% sell on when buying Arma from Newcastle. It's baffling how awful those negotiations were.

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

I believe it is 10% on any profit on sale.

We have received 3.5m on transfer + 1m on promotion + 1m on first Spanish cap. 

So if the fee were 40m, we would receive an additional 3.45m.

Given the prices international class keepers command these days, I'd hope he would go for a lot more than 40m.

Isn’t he about to enter the final year of his contract? - I imagine that will affect his value.

[Ewood Ace]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

12.5% percentage Rich Sharpe has tweet earlier this week

Shocking negotiating and from the same people who the previous summer agreed for Newcastle to have 40% of any Armstrong profit.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Whilst it is definitely a valid argument to suggest that we sold Raya for a low fee and it was a short term move, he made so many mistake in that first season up and he wasn't a patch on the keeper he is today, and likely wouldn't be close to it even now without the coaching and development he has got at Brentford.

The year with Walton was a joke, but what frustrates me more at this current time is that we did (a year too late) get an excellent replacement in Kaminski and we are probably going to sell him to go back to having someone bang average in net instead.

On the other hand he pulled off saves that only an international class keeper could make. Even the dogs in the street could see he was a top class keeper in the making. Brentford could anyway.