Premier League 22-23

[GHR]

18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

There’s a really good article ( 4 full pages long ) in todays “ Guardian “ . It’s about modern day referees. Very revealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/21/inside-world-premier-league-football-referees-pgmol-howard-webb-andre-marriner-darren-england

 

Is this it? About to dive in...

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

47 minutes ago, GHR said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/21/inside-world-premier-league-football-referees-pgmol-howard-webb-andre-marriner-darren-england

 

Is this it? About to dive in...

Yes, thanks for down loading it.

[jim mk2]

Superb article

3 paragraphs from it

I don't know how (or why) referees do it when you get scumbags like Conor Coady and their families. It should be compulsory for  players, as part of their football "education", to be taught to respect officials on and off the pitch. 

Marriner and his assistants were in good spirits an hour after the match, as they were led outside to the car, past the team dugouts, which were now populated by Everton players and their families. A few players nodded at them, but most went quiet, as if a teacher had entered the classroom.

Then Conor Coady, one of Everton’s centre-backs, turned to his two young children. “These are the referees,” he said, pointing at Marriner. “And we don’t like them … Boooooo!” As the toddlers responded by pointing and booing, too, the other players and their families laughed and joined in.

On the way back to the hotel, Westy assured me that this sort of behaviour was normal. “Referees are the pantomime villains,” he said. “People think we get paid to turn up, ruin everyone’s day, and fuck off, but they don’t see all the work that we do.”

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I thought that line about how you can be “ too near to play “ to get a really accurate view very interesting. I always thought lots of offside decisions were got wrong because the play was too near to the lineman at the critical time.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[wilsdenrover]

4 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If he gets a ban in single figures he’ll be doing well.

I think the initial ‘grab’ off the referee warrants a couple of the extra games but the aggression shown after that deserves even more.

In my opinion, the fact his manager is trying to mitigate the players behaviour is almost as disgraceful as the behaviour itself.

[AllRoverAsia]

I haven't finished reading the full article yet.

Does it touch on big team bias and how, in the lifetime of anyone currently living on our plant, none of the PLs top clubs would EVER have 3 red cards issued against them in less than one minute for exactly the same offences.

Can anyone believe that the likes of Klopp and Guardiola would have been red carded for similar.

And then there is the fecking scumbag called Fernandez who has manhandled officials on numerous occasions.

I am not condoning the actions of Fulham during their implosion, rather the spineless action of Referees when it involves a supposed top club.

Makes me 🤢

[47er]

Didn't know where to put this, not worth a thread of its own. Read an article Phil Jones recently. his contract is up in summer and there's no chance of it being renewed.

Before we get upset for him though, he's earned (or better put received) over £42M since he joined united 11 or 12 years ago! It works out at £300,000 per game!

What's most astonishing is that, despite his many injuries he kept getting new contracts and always with a significant increase.

Inexplicably his last renewal was in 2019 when he actually got a big increase although he'd hardly played at all before this and hardly played thereafter

The gravy train eh?

[Mike E]

13 minutes ago, 47er said:

Didn't know where to put this, not worth a thread of its own. Read an article Phil Jones recently. his contract is up in summer and there's no chance of it being renewed.

Before we get upset for him though, he's earned (or better put received) over £42M since he joined united 11 or 12 years ago! It works out at £300,000 per game!

What's most astonishing is that, despite his many injuries he kept getting new contracts and always with a significant increase.

Inexplicably his last renewal was in 2019 when he actually got a big increase although he'd hardly played at all before this and hardly played thereafter

The gravy train eh?

If he's sensible, he'll have done his coaching badges and invested most of it.

[47er]

13 minutes ago, Mike E said:

If he's sensible, he'll have done his coaching badges and invested most of it.

He could do nothing at all for the rest of his life! How can we compete with that?

[jim mk2]

How the other half live:  an interesting piece on how elite footballers get to matches around England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65017565

Now I understand that the time when the top football clubs travelled everywhere by train or road (because we had a transport system that worked) has gone. But is it really necessary for Nottingham Forest to get a 27-minute flight to Blackpool, or Ben Chilwell to fly from London to Leicester (an hour by train)?

Of all the forms of transport short-haul flights are known as the worst emitters of greenhouse gas emissions. Do these clubs and players care (or know about) the damage they are causing? 

[Mattyblue]

The ‘Green Weekend’ or whatever it was the other week made me laugh.

’Liverpool are fully behind this Premier League initiative’ (after just taking a private jet for about a 100 miles).

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[Upside Down]

15 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Great stuff. Fine them points and send them down.

[R0verb0y]

On 22/03/2023 at 09:16, 47er said:

Didn't know where to put this, not worth a thread of its own. Read an article Phil Jones recently. his contract is up in summer and there's no chance of it being renewed.

Before we get upset for him though, he's earned (or better put received) over £42M since he joined united 11 or 12 years ago! It works out at £300,000 per game!

What's most astonishing is that, despite his many injuries he kept getting new contracts and always with a significant increase.

Inexplicably his last renewal was in 2019 when he actually got a big increase although he'd hardly played at all before this and hardly played thereafter

The gravy train eh?

Google Harry Arter.

For a couple of seasons now - IIRC - Nottingham Forest have been paying him £40K + per week to do a bit of training! 😦

The Manager who signed him has moved on but no subsequent Manager has rated him enough to pick him.

[davulsukur]

Conte has left Spurs "by mutual consent"

Was basically looking for the sack with his recent comments. 

[chaddyrovers]

No surprised Conte gone after he threw Levy, players and club under the bus after the last game against Southampton 

Conte's number 2 take over for rest of the season. 

Expect Pochettino or Nagelsmann to take over in the summer. Outside bet Brighton head coach De Zebri to get the job

Edited March 26, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[Norbert Rassragr]

Seen Zidane mentioned in a BBC article. If he did get that job, he'd be disappointed very quickly since Levy and the board don't really have a clear idea about how to go for a trophy. Real Madrid could buy any player they wanted, or bully any team into selling the player by playing the "We're Real Madrid, we're special" card and unsettling the player. Spurs can't go to the agent of a player and say "Your client should sign for us, we've won the league before The Beatles toured America. We are a top club."

No manager with real ambition should go for that job. The best Spurs will ever do is get 2nd on a flukey season. 

[Upside Down]

Shit club with shit fans.

[Leonard Venkhater]

1 hour ago, Upside Down said:

Shit club with shit fans.

And how I loved our celebrations at Cardiff! They thought they only had to turn up...

[Upside Down]

So so funny that.

And we'd already beat them earlier in the season so I've no idea why they were so confident. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

And how I loved our celebrations at Cardiff! They thought they only had to turn up...

Mark Hughes quietened a few of them in midfield. Big Brad won us the game though.

[Leonard Venkhater]

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Mark Hughes quietened a few of them in midfield. Big Brad won us the game though.

(..and Graham Poll?)

[Upside Down]

Nah it was a clear dive.

[LeftWinger]

Not sure where else to put this, but just noticed Jason Steele appears to be Brighton's keeper at the moment.

How on earth has that happened?