longsiders1882 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 12 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Blackburn Rovers warned of financial impact amid growing streaming debate by Football finance expert Kieran Maguire Blackburn Rovers warned of financial impact amid growing streaming debate (msn.com) Not sure why he points out Blackburn specifically. We would suffer exactly as you would, indeed plenty of others too. Also for a ‘football finance expert’ he appears t have little grasp of how much it actually costs to go to a match. I can see both sides to this debate but the reality is with PL clubs being all but exclusively foreign owned they will push this and a fair number in the Championship as well with PL aspirations. With that in mind it’s about making it work because stopping it seems unlikely. My instinct tells me PL2 will be here very soon in tandem with the end to the blackout. If that does happen our football landscape will change forever and probably not for the better. Quote
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Mattyblue Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) That’s a story lifted from a Rovers piece on LancsLive, so that’s why it has that angle. As for KM, he has a season ticket at Brighton and goes to a fair few away games too, so I’m not sure that’s a fair accusation… Edited December 24, 2022 by Mattyblue Quote
chaddyrovers Posted December 24, 2022 Author Posted December 24, 2022 7 hours ago, longsiders1882 said: Not sure why he points out Blackburn specifically. We would suffer exactly as you would, indeed plenty of others too. Also for a ‘football finance expert’ he appears t have little grasp of how much it actually costs to go to a match. I can see both sides to this debate but the reality is with PL clubs being all but exclusively foreign owned they will push this and a fair number in the Championship as well with PL aspirations. With that in mind it’s about making it work because stopping it seems unlikely. My instinct tells me PL2 will be here very soon in tandem with the end to the blackout. If that does happen our football landscape will change forever and probably not for the better. The EFL does it own TV deal and it has put streaming 3pm kick offs on the table whilst the PL to the best of my knowledge hasn't done this. Why the EFL has done this I don't get? They seem to think they can better TV deal by doing this but I don't see it. The EFL should be looking at capping prices for fans at each level to attract more fans to stadium and live football Quote
Mattyblue Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 The EFL are seeing dollar signs. They’ll have looked at tickets sold for ifollow/red button night games and thought that people are still buying. Which they are, but there are far less actual bums on seats for those games, as many ST holders give them a swerve (but still buy a ST as it’s only 4/5 games out of 23, still worth their while). But put every game on and just watch how many ST holders keep their cash in their pockets and stop bothering completely. Quote
47er Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 I really hope this doesn't happen. Its fools gold, football without reasonable crowds is a dull spectacle. No fun at all. 2 Quote
Upside Down Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Hopefully it will all implode and all the money will disappear from the game so that football will be returned to the glory days before all these flash oligarch twats turned up. 4 Quote
47er Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) You have clubs at the top who sell out every home game and have a several years waiting list for a season ticket. They will be the clubs who benefit from this and the gap will just get greater. Edited December 25, 2022 by 47er 1 Quote
Norbert Rassragr Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 On 24/12/2022 at 22:15, 47er said: I really hope this doesn't happen. Its fools gold, football without reasonable crowds is a dull spectacle. No fun at all. You are right about this. Those empty stadiums during COVID felt so boring and meaningless. 1 Quote
Backroom Tom Posted December 26, 2022 Backroom Posted December 26, 2022 I was living in blissful ignorance and didn’t notice just how far the top two are ahead of the pack Sad to say that the two automatic places look nearly sealed already - even sadder given it’s them lot going back up at a canter Quote
longsiders1882 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tom said: I was living in blissful ignorance and didn’t notice just how far the top two are ahead of the pack Sad to say that the two automatic places look nearly sealed already - even sadder given it’s them lot going back up at a canter Give over - we are only 8 points ahead of you with half a season to play - and as I’ve heard endlessly on here, we are no Fulham or Bournemouth. Also there is a transfer window coming up that could well change everything. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 sheff utd far and away the best side in the division,jdt should be watching them and gradually purchasing the required players,unfortunately he appears to be 100% polar opposite,fanny football and slow build up with no regard for set pieces Quote
chaddyrovers Posted December 26, 2022 Author Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said: sheff utd far and away the best side in the division,jdt should be watching them and gradually purchasing the required players,unfortunately he appears to be 100% polar opposite,fanny football and slow build up with no regard for set pieces We should sign players that fit how JDT wants to play and fit how squad. We shouldn't copying other teams. Quote
longsiders1882 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said: sheff utd far and away the best side in the division Far and away? Level on points having played a game more? If that makes them far and away better than Burnley them and us must be light years ahead of the rest of the division 🤷♂️ Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said: Far and away? Level on points having played a game more? If that makes them far and away better than Burnley them and us must be light years ahead of the rest of the division 🤷♂️ well they splattered you lot all over the park and you are miles better than the rest of the division😁 1 Quote
longsiders1882 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said: well they splattered you lot all over the park You cling to that if you want - we will put that right in the return fixture however the odds at the moment have us and them at around a 75% chance of promotion, I’d bite your hand off today for second as the league has a long way to run yet. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, longsiders1882 said: You cling to that if you want - we will put that right in the return fixture however the odds at the moment have us and them at around a 75% chance of promotion, I’d bite your hand off today for second as the league has a long way to run yet. they beat you easily,gave jdt a superb blueprint of how to play against burnley so what does he do,ignores all that,puts a raw 17 yr old in midfield and a stand in left back(who has`nt played for 6 months and is **** as well) and plays right into your strengths,with a manager like that it`s pretty clear we won`t be going anywhere this season,unless you lot have a mass of injuries or a huge loss of form it`s clear you and sheff utd will be going up 1 Quote
longsiders1882 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: they beat you easily,gave jdt a superb blueprint of how to play against burnley so what does he do,ignores all that,puts a raw 17 yr old in midfield and a stand in left back(who has`nt played for 6 months and is **** as well) and plays right into your strengths,with a manager like that it`s pretty clear we won`t be going anywhere this season,unless you lot have a mass of injuries or a huge loss of form it`s clear you and sheff utd will be going up They beat a tired Burnley - then lost to Rotherham. Like I say, we will look tk out that right in the return fixture but single games between teams don’t decide the league, performances over 46 games do - and we still have 23 of them to play. I don’t accept for one second it’s us and them up with half a season to play. Out next goal is to best Birmingham, who gave us a tough game at St Andrews. One game at a time. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said: They beat a tired Burnley - then lost to Rotherham. Like I say, we will look tk out that right in the return fixture but single games between teams don’t decide the league, performances over 46 games do - and we still have 23 of them to play. I don’t accept for one second it’s us and them up with half a season to play. Out next goal is to best Birmingham, who gave us a tough game at St Andrews. One game at a time. There’ll be a team that puts a late run together that will shoot them up the league into a play off position. Could be WBA this time. Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) Dean Smith's sacking imminent apparently. They've approached S Gerrard. Edited December 27, 2022 by Sweaty Gussets Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 Dropping down a league and Bolton expecting a crowd of 25k on today v Derby...on sky too. 1 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: Dropping down a league and Bolton expecting a crowd of 25k on today v Derby...on sky too. On soon, I'll have a gander. Cheers. Quote
Waggy76 Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 Norwich sack Smith and they are 5th in the league .... So it is possible.... 2 Quote
Darrenbot Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said: Dean Smith's sacking imminent apparently. They've approached S Gerrard. Team seeking promotion in 5th see its not working with Manager so decide to cut losses and try something different,They can probably see how average this league is so instead of sticking they twist though i cant see Norwich being big enough team for Gerrard to go to. 1 Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted December 27, 2022 Posted December 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Darrenbot said: Team seeking promotion in 5th see its not working with Manager so decide to cut losses and try something different,They can probably see how average this league is so instead of sticking they twist though i cant see Norwich being big enough team for Gerrard to go to. Journos saying he approached them Quote
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