Championship - 22-23

[Mattyblue]

Oh they’ll definitely fill it, Luton is an hour from Wembley and Cov have a big floating fanbase in the city itself and across Warwickshire and other parts of the WM.

[wilsdenrover]

27 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Margins in football between success andthe 'also rans' are fine - Coventry are in the final and may well end up in the PL; we aren't - it's that simple.

It is that simple, I still feel your descriptions were over the top.

That being said, if all our opinions were the same this place would be a very boring one!

[Blue blood]

The Coventry handball should not have mattered as much as it did. We left ourselves vulnerable to chance and injustice, just like the Huddersfield reserves the season we went down.  

If we had just turned up for one of those hiding, had a marginally better conversion rate, turned up before he last 10 mins vs a fragile Stoke, heck even just managed the Preston game better then the Coventry injustice would not have mattered. If we had got the basics right in recruitment,  even just submitting paperwork in on time, it would not have mattered. Sure its a fine margin but we left ourselves totally and needlessly exposed to that. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

The Coventry handball should not have mattered as much as it did. We left ourselves vulnerable to chance and injustice, just like the Huddersfield reserves the season we went down.  

If we had just turned up for one of those hiding, had a marginally better conversion rate, turned up before he last 10 mins vs a fragile Stoke, heck even just managed the Preston game better then the Coventry injustice would not have mattered. If we had got the basics right in recruitment,  even just submitting paperwork in on time, it would not have mattered. Sure its a fine margin but we left ourselves totally and needlessly exposed to that. 

Or the Hull game at Ewood were we just went through the motions. Or the league game at Big Club were we went through the motions again. Too many players happy to just do enough and not enough players who want to win at any cost.

[martonrover]

13 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

The Coventry handball should not have mattered as much as it did. We left ourselves vulnerable to chance and injustice, just like the Huddersfield reserves the season we went down.  

If we had just turned up for one of those hiding, had a marginally better conversion rate, turned up before he last 10 mins vs a fragile Stoke, heck even just managed the Preston game better then the Coventry injustice would not have mattered. If we had got the basics right in recruitment,  even just submitting paperwork in on time, it would not have mattered. Sure its a fine margin but we left ourselves totally and needlessly exposed to that. 

Exactly, and compare how Coventry finished the season to the way we did.

We had the usual pathetic capitulation, until it was too late, (as usual).

 

 

[Hasta]

18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Or the Hull game at Ewood were we just went through the motions. Or the league game at Big Club were we went through the motions again. Too many players happy to just do enough and not enough players who want to win at any cost.

Wigan at home.

Tip, tap, tip, tap. Something will happen for us, we are above them in the league. Tip, tap, tip, tap.

[Mercer]

6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Or the Hull game at Ewood were we just went through the motions. Or the league game at Big Club were we went through the motions again. Too many players happy to just do enough and not enough players who want to win at any cost.

The Hull game really sticks in my throat.

We'd just mullered Huddersfield in the 2nd half to come back from 2 down to almost win it so JDT instead of starting with the same 11 who played so superbly in that 2nd half at Huddersfield (as most managers would) totally fecked it up with his selections and tactics.  JDT has a lot to answer for in those last 10 games with his selections and tactics - found wanting when it really mattered.

You are absolutely right about the players though - not enough leaders or 'scumbags' who would instill some spine and bottle into the others.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Wigan at home.

Tip, tap, tip, tap. Something will happen for us, we are above them in the league. Tip, tap, tip, tap.

There’s too much of it at the club. We haven’t got a winning mentality and it all stems from the top. Just business as usual after the Dingle away debacle. Anybody think Jack would have taken that shit show lying down ?

Edited May 18, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[DE.]

46 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

The Coventry handball should not have mattered as much as it did. We left ourselves vulnerable to chance and injustice, just like the Huddersfield reserves the season we went down.  

If we had just turned up for one of those hiding, had a marginally better conversion rate, turned up before he last 10 mins vs a fragile Stoke, heck even just managed the Preston game better then the Coventry injustice would not have mattered. If we had got the basics right in recruitment,  even just submitting paperwork in on time, it would not have mattered. Sure its a fine margin but we left ourselves totally and needlessly exposed to that. 

Spot on. Teams that fail sit around bemoaning luck, teams that progress make their own. Score more than one goal per match and, with our generally quite sturdy defence, we don't have to worry about a last gasp equaliser. 

[Mattyblue]

Of course you can go through the fixtures and say ‘if this’ ‘if that’, however to throw away two *consecutive* wins in just four days in the run-in with 94th minute goals will always be the killer week…

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, DE. said:

Spot on. Teams that fail sit around bemoaning luck, teams that progress make their own. Score more than one goal per match and, with our generally quite sturdy defence, we don't have to worry about a last gasp equaliser. 

Like I said at the time - with a Kevin Moran or a Colin Hendry in the team that corner in the Coventry game gets headed away before their keeper can get anywhere near it.

Leadership - that’s what we are lacking.

[neophox]

Also remember Robins been at the club a long time. Tomasson had not... experience..Tomasson got that this season. Congratulations to Coventry..think they beat Luton.

[booth]

11 hours ago, Mercer said:

It is - no one to blame but ourselves because we fecked everything up so badly including the transfer window.

I think everyone at Rovers should hang their head in shame.

Robins and Edwards have done terrific jobs at those two clubs.  Their teams are well organised, hungry, physical and aggressive.  What's more they have bottle.  They are everything we aren't.

Rovers' position is indefensible.  Fed up of reading crap that we are punching above our weight, we can't compete financially - it's all sh1te.  We are almost a shambles from top to bottom and that's why we've fecked it up so badly this season.

There are no excuses.  It's just the simple truth of the matter.

 

No, they had a goal scorer or two.

I watched almost every team this season at some point, and all were capable of playing like they'd been on the bottle before the game. Goal scorers bailed them out, and goal difference kept us out of the play offs. That's the simple truth of the matter.

Coventry were only one point away from us - which they fecking stole from us via blatant handball, and they should have had a points deduction.

[booth]

1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

The Coventry handball should not have mattered as much as it did. We left ourselves vulnerable to chance and injustice, just like the Huddersfield reserves the season we went down.  

If we had just turned up for one of those hiding, had a marginally better conversion rate, turned up before he last 10 mins vs a fragile Stoke, heck even just managed the Preston game better then the Coventry injustice would not have mattered. If we had got the basics right in recruitment,  even just submitting paperwork in on time, it would not have mattered. Sure its a fine margin but we left ourselves totally and needlessly exposed to that. 

The point is that Mercer was saying how much more organised Coventry are. They were a cheated point at Ewood more organised.

So how Mercer works out they were much better than Rovers, I don't know. They had their share of awful results throughout the season. 4-0 defeat at home to Stoke. 4-2 defeat at home to Norwich. 2-1 defeat at home to Blackpool. 1-0 away at reading. Conceded 4 goals to Wrexham and knocked out of the FA Cup.

Yeah massively more organised.

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said that it was as good now or even that it is good in general. Point being, you cant possibly know how good it is now.

Well that's down to opinions. I know some of the players for teams actually but it nowhere near good as the 90's. Simple as 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Similar with Champions League if you dont watch that. Although watching our best teams go up against Bayern, Real Madrid, PSG etc, trust me it is the very best standard. Better than those same teams playing Leeds, Leicester and Bournemouth.

We have the best league in the world. Maybe accept that I don't have interest in the champions league for years after years. About 10 years since I last watch any group games or knockout games. Also factor in that's I don't have BT sport, that I work nights during the week and I dont the UEFA Champions league format. Sometimes seen the final each year but that's it. 

Edited May 18, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[JC4LAB]

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Also remember Robins been at the club a long time. Tomasson had not... experience..Tomasson got that this season. Congratulations to Coventry..think they beat Luton.

Well done for getting so far for Coventry.Hope they go up,..but it should be us though...

[booth]

I hope Luton trounce them, the cheating point deduction dodging shitehawks.

[superniko]

4 hours ago, K-Hod said:

2 Italian teams in the semi adds weight to the theory it’s on its way back….

Or that one of them drew Benfica and the other drew another Italian team in the QF (whilst City, Madrid, Bayern and Chelsea were all drawn in the other half).

[JHRover]

I hope Luton do it. I think Coventry are more likely to fall to pieces if they miss out, especially if Robins moves on, plus I'm not aware of Luton breaking any league rules this season, whereas Coventry have.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

13 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I hope Luton do it. I think Coventry are more likely to fall to pieces if they miss out, especially if Robins moves on, plus I'm not aware of Luton breaking any league rules this season, whereas Coventry have.

I can’t see past Luton to be honest. They’re very hard working and hard to play against.

[G Somerset Rover]

Sunderland already splashing the cash - £3m on Jude’s brother, Jobe Bellingham. Brum fans seem gutted, can’t say I’ve seen too much of him.

[rigger]

A lot of people are saying that Coventry robbed our spot in the play-offs. There is nothing to say, that even if we had held on to a win against Coventry, that we would have beaten Millwall. All ifs and buts. The one thing that is a fact, is that it was the Rovers who didn't get enough points over the season.

[Inferi]

1 hour ago, booth said:

I hope Luton trounce them, the cheating point deduction dodging shitehawks.

I think and hope Luton will win. They look quite a bit stronger than Coventry. Of course anything could happen. Would be sickening to see Coventry promoted after that disgusting goal.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Living in Coventry, I know it'll be a great boost for the city if they go up. Especially after the long period of mismanagement they've had (the move to Northampton was a particularly ill received move). But then, I grew up in Bedfordshire, so seeing Luton with that crappy stadium in the Premier League is an amusing thought. The mental image of Man City arriving in that dystopian craphole of a town, to play in Kenilworth Road is great.

[Penwortham Blue]

57 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Sunderland already splashing the cash - £3m on Jude’s brother, Jobe Bellingham. Brum fans seem gutted, can’t say I’ve seen too much of him.

Surely he hasn’t signed for the Teeside Curmudgeon, I’m sure he wears ripped jeans 😊