Sam Szmodics-Your thoughts?

[B16Rover]

2 hours ago, martonrover said:

I certainly haven’t described Eustace as a “Messiah”.

He has a lot of work to do next season, and probably in difficult circumstances once again.

I’m crediting him for a job well done in retaining Championship status.

Are you suggesting he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy 

[Hasta]

33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos Szmodics was in the room and like Big Sam its the way a modern coach is sticking to Plan A 

Thats just gobbledegook.

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Thats just gobbledegook.

Listened to the interview. Very clear what was said

[danger19_80]

7 hours ago, DE. said:

I'm sure his experience here will stand him in good stead going forward, and if he can improve on his weaknesses then he's already shown here that his philosophy has the potential for a huge upside if all the pieces are in place and he's properly backed by the club's owners. 

Which is why it's bizarre he's taken the Sweden job - went down in my estimations with that completely unambitious move

[Hasta]

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Listened to the interview. Very clear what was said

 

JDT didnt have a plan B. I said it for 18 months he was here. You disagreed.

Now you seem to be saying JDT's problem was like a lot of modern coaches he didnt have a plan B.

I think.

 

Edited May 10, 2024 by Hasta

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Now you seem to be saying JDT's problem was like a lot of modern coaches he didnt have a plan B.

No Big Sam and Szmodics are

[Hasta]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No Big Sam and Szmodics are

The interview confirms you was wrong regarding JDT being stubborn. You now seem to be denying that you thought he wasnt stubborn. That he had a plan B.

Go back and read what you've said.

Edited May 10, 2024 by Hasta

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, Hasta said:

The interview confirms you was wrong regarind JDT being stubborn. You're now denying you thought it was .

Go back and read what you've said.

I haven't deny anything tho. I have just quoted what was said on the podcast by a player and experience manager 

I have more than happy to admit I was wrong. 

Edited May 10, 2024 by chaddyrovers

[Hasta]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I haven't deny anything tho. I have just quoted what was sacked. 

I mean. WTF.

End of conversation.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I mean. WTF.

End of conversation.

amend. 

[B16Rover]

1 hour ago, RTM08 said:

Pretty much, we scored a lot of goals under JDT with someone cutting back to someone moving across or arriving late into the box, so that fits if it was his philosophy. 

Imagine how much we'd have scored with Jordan Rhodes (current) in the box with his attacking positioning and not gallagher 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, RTM08 said:

Pretty much, we scored a lot of goals under JDT with someone cutting back to someone moving across or arriving late into the box, so that fits if it was his philosophy. 

How smart do you have to be to know getting in from the sides is a winner ? It’s a defenders nightmare getting turned around and facing your own goal. Who knows where the guy you’re supposed to be marking has gone because you can’t watch him and the ball at the same time. I knew that when I was 12.

[RTM08]

12 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

How smart do you have to be to know getting in from the sides is a winner ? It’s a defenders nightmare getting turned around and facing your own goal. Who knows where the guy you’re supposed to be marking has gone because you can’t watch him and the ball at the same time. I knew that when I was 12.

Let's not be disingenuous. Sammie broke it down to its mosr fundamental component, as presumably the how is more important than the what in this instance.

[K-Hod]

18 hours ago, martonrover said:

I dispute that it’s cherry picking stats.

We were losing heavily on a regular basis and the direction of travel was one way only.

The worst defensive record in the league.

In my opinion, the only reason JDT never had us as close to relegation was because he was removed, (probably in the nick of time).

He was doing the same things week in week out, with the same results, (either insanity or stubbornness).

I accept that others have a different opinion, but mine is that Eustace did very well to help maintain our Championship status.

He walked in to an absolute mess, on and off the pitch, and instilled a fighting spirit into a squad of players which had previously appeared to be waving the white flag.

We needed a pragmatist and we got one. 
Yes, we slipped a little further, but the straight down trajectory was arrested, and that was crucial.
 

Sorry, I think that’s exactly what you’ve done. You aren’t the only one doing it, for what it’s worth.

JDT’s position had become untenable, but I did understand why he was upset, after being shafted from above, then not being allowed to quit…

JE did the bare minimum to stay up, but he needs to do a lot better next season.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

33 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Sorry, I think that’s exactly what you’ve done. You aren’t the only one doing it, for what it’s worth.

JDT’s position had become untenable, but I did understand why he was upset, after being shafted from above, then not being allowed to quit…

JE did the bare minimum to stay up, but he needs to do a lot better next season.

That’s a bit like saying Starmer needs to do a lot better than the current government . Really ? It would be nice if he could, but you need the tools to do the job.

[martonrover]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Sorry, I think that’s exactly what you’ve done. You aren’t the only one doing it, for what it’s worth.

JDT’s position had become untenable, but I did understand why he was upset, after being shafted from above, then not being allowed to quit…

JE did the bare minimum to stay up, but he needs to do a lot better next season.

I had to leave the debate yesterday evening, to be rested for an 05:45 book on today 🙂

I think it had got to the stage where all the ground had been covered, anyway.

I absolutely understand why JDT was upset.

Re - the stats, I’m certainly not doctoring the fact that we had the worst defensive record in the league towards the end of JDT’s reign.
That tells it’s own story and fully exposes the mess we were in.

I just think that keeping us up was no mean feat, no matter the margin, and the fact that was built on better defensive performances is telling.

Anyway, we can now focus on the ever shifting circus of Venky’s era personnel, as Mr Broughton becomes the latest to stand on the trap door.

It just never ends.

[Upside Down]

On 11/05/2024 at 00:14, DE. said:

JDT was ultimately a rookie manager and needed to be judged as such. The two flaws being brought up - a lack of Plan B and struggling with man management - are classic problems faced by inexperienced managers. The fact he was able to get us as far as he did in that first season is testament to the strengths of his footballing philosophy when it's working. The fact he was unable to arrest our decline both in the second half of his first season and the final couple of months of his final season is testament to the fact he's still a young manager with plenty to learn.  

I'm sure his experience here will stand him in good stead going forward, and if he can improve on his weaknesses then he's already shown here that his philosophy has the potential for a huge upside if all the pieces are in place and he's properly backed by the club's owners. 

That's the thing as well. We only needed to sign about three decent players and we'd have been up there in the mix.

Instead the owners and their lackeys decimated the squad and made his position untenable whilst forcing him to stay.

Nobody will ever succeed with venkys around. Even if you look like you might they will do everything they can to undermine you.

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On 11/05/2024 at 08:22, Hasta said:

I mean. WTF.

End of conversation.

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[philipl]

Glad this thread is quiet.

[Forever Blue]

I’d imagine it will get busy from about the middle of June. 

[bluebruce]

On 17/09/2023 at 16:18, bluebruce said:

Came here to say this. 4 league goals and an assist in 6 games (501 minutes). Last season, 5 league goals and 2 assists in 34 games (2,178 minutes). Should be nailed on to beat last season's tally, and you'd hope we can get at least 10 league goals out of him this season now. If he can get Dack-like numbers, but adds pressing intensity and fitness reliability (fingers crossed) then it vindicates management's decision to let Dack go. Of course, if there's an injury we're hugely reliant on Moran.

Well, I undersold this! But who didn't?

I seem to remember that either in the summer or at this point, I had the feeling he could nab about 10-15 league goals for the season, and at the time most would have agreed that was a very good return. Well the bugger basically doubled that, and his workrate has been phenomenal to boot. Think his overall performance this season has been my favourite from a Rovers player since we came down from the Prem. What a guy!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Not only that but when we really needed him he put his hand up to turn out. He’d enough strapping for two players on his legs at Leicester but he still gave his all.

In my top ten for playing for the shirt in the Premier League era.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

I liked the last best ! Could have done with that clip being longer and more time spent on each goal.