simongarnerisgod Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 has`nt been much in the game,though the dutch are far more battle hardened than the usa when it comes to football 2 Quote
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Wheelton Blue Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: has`nt been much in the game,though the dutch are far more battle hardened than the usa when it comes to football Agreed. The Dutch just have that that little bit extra which the USA don't quite have yet. The first goal was high quality. Netherlands will give most teams a good game. Quote
Gav Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Pele moved to end of life care, not responding to chemo therapy, one of the greatest players ever. Thoughts with his family. 5 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted December 3, 2022 Moderation Lead Posted December 3, 2022 Looked at the starting line ups and honestly, bar VVD being better than any USA defenders, there really isn’t much in it at all. 1 Quote
Giant Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 A classic example of a bunch of athletes lacking technique and football nouse versus a football team with players who have both in abundance. Quote
roversfan99 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 France have never been a thrilling team but they are exactly what you want from an international team. They always seem in control, they have the best player in the world amidst a solid side throughout with plenty of experience and they know how to win. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Giant said: A classic example of a bunch of athletes lacking technique and football nouse versus a football team with players who have both in abundance. Does thus dutch team have an abundance of technique? It's a long way off the days of seedorf kluivert Bergkamp davids robben 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Gav said: Pele moved to end of life care, not responding to chemo therapy, one of the greatest players ever. Thoughts with his family. The best player I ever saw. You can argue about who was the second best. 4 Quote
roverandout Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, Gav said: Pele moved to end of life care, not responding to chemo therapy, one of the greatest players ever. Thoughts with his family. Let's hope he sees Christmas Quote
Gav Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: The best player I ever saw. You can argue about who was the second best. He played in a pub league with pub players all his career, but on the international stage he could play, superb player, but just behind Maradona and Super Atko for me. Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Gav said: He played in a pub league with pub players all his career, but on the international stage he could play, superb player, but just behind Maradona and Super Atko for me. He was the greatest player in the era in which he played - and I don't think you can ask any more than that. 5 Quote
Ianrally Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: The best player I ever saw. You can argue about who was the second best. I agree and he always gave credit to opposition players who he considered the best in their position. Bobby Moore and Gordon Banks being two of them. I’m also glad the USA are out. Anyone who plays the wonderful game and still call it Soccer don’t deserve to be in a FIFA World Cup tournament. Do you see the letter S in the governing bodies title Yankee boys? Stick to playing your brand with crash helmets and lots of padding. Edited December 3, 2022 by Ianrally 6 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Gav said: He played in a pub league with pub players all his career, but on the international stage he could play, superb player, but just behind Maradona and Super Atko for me. brito,everaldo,clodoaldo,piazza,carlos alberto.gerson,rivelino,jairzinho,tostao all pub players😆give your head a wobble son 3 Quote
Giant Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gav said: He played in a pub league with pub players all his career, but on the international stage he could play, superb player, but just behind Maradona and Super Atko for me. Brazilian 1st Division when hardly any S. American footballers played overseas is hardly playing in a pub league with pub team footballers. Ok, he finished his career playing for NY Cosmos, but Pele was equally good with both feet, unlike Maradona and Messi, and he was a brilliant header of the ball. Three World Cup winner’s medals, youngest player ever in a final. The best player ever. 4 Quote
frosty Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Gav said: He played in a pub league with pub players Did he? I’m far from an expert on the Brazilian top flight in the 1960s and 70s but the Brazil national team was obviously the best of that era….and all of the 1970 team, for example, played their club football in Brazil. For a variety of clubs. So my guess it was pretty strong. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 expect the argies to win by a couple,australia are solid side but they are going up in class here Quote
Gav Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: brito,everaldo,clodoaldo,piazza,carlos alberto.gerson,rivelino,jairzinho,tostao all pub players😆give your head a wobble son 20 teams in group A and group B - 600 players in those squads and you had to Google the 1970 Brazil team which says it all. Its all about opinions, Pele is a great man and a great player, but he played in a pub league. Quote
Gav Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, frosty said: Did he? I’m far from an expert on the Brazilian top flight in the 1960s and 70s but the Brazil national team was obviously the best of that era….and all of the 1970 team, for example, played their club football in Brazil. For a variety of clubs. So my guess it was pretty strong. Would you say the same about the German league and Argentinian leagues when they won the World Cups? I wouldn’t, but it’s all about opinions my friend, hope you’re well by the way 👍 Edited December 3, 2022 by Gav Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gav said: 20 teams in group A and group B - 600 players in those squads and you had to Google the 1970 Brazil team which says it all. Its all about opinions, Pele is a great man and a great player, but he played in a pub league. yeah whatever,just go away😁 2 Quote
GHR Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Ianrally said: I agree and he always gave credit to opposition players who he considered the best in their position. Bobby Moore and Gordon Banks being two of them. I’m also glad the USA are out. Anyone who plays the wonderful game and still call it Soccer don’t deserve to be in a FIFA World Cup tournament. Do you see the letter S in the governing bodies title Yankee boys? Stick to playing your brand with crash helmets and lots of padding. I'm genuinely curious as to why it being called soccer bothers people? A term invented in Britain and primarily only used by those from country whose leading form of football isn't Association Rules... 2 Quote
Ianrally Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Gav said: 20 teams in group A and group B - 600 players in those squads and you had to Google the 1970 Brazil team which says it all. Its all about opinions, Pele is a great man and a great player, but he played in a pub league. Some of us are old enough not to have to Google the 1970 Brazil team and you are making assumptions that Simon is doing that. He may well be but do you know that for sure? Anyway for an inclusion into your knowledge bank, the best World Cup team I’ve ever seen was Brazil in 1970 1 Quote
Ianrally Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, roverandout said: Another Danny Murphy w*nkfest Yes, I was so looking forward to this on TV then had to put up with this tosser. 2 Quote
Ianrally Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 A question, given that we had three Aussies playing at the top level, are any of them involved with the Australian WC squad? Quote
roverandout Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Argentina the embodiment of a one man team Quote
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