roversfan99 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said: I don't want to set up a Hyam v Wharton argument - both are excellent at this level - Hyam has a record of 24 points from 13 games which is also excellent. As is Ayala, all 3 when fit and on form are more than adequate at this level. Was just pointing out that I felt that the stat was somewhat misleading in that it wasn't just that Wharton was missing, but that for much of those games we were very short of alternatives, hence an over reliance on a 17 year old. If the alternative was a Hyam and Ayala partnership I suspect we would have done much better. Quote
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Displaced Rover Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Not quite as bad as last year (off back of the Fulham debacle) but once again trying to sell cheap tickets for the “anniversary” game on the back of a woeful midweek performance. The playing staff don’t help the commercial side sometimes. On the game itself, need to bounce back and give ourselves some confidence going into the massive game next week. Some big selection decisions to be made. Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 £18.75 isn't a particularly great deal either. Quote
Miller11 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Kaminski Hyam Ayala Wharton Brittain Pickering Morton Buckley Wharton Dack Brereton Pears, Carter, Mola, Travis, Dolan, Szmodics, Markanday/Garratt (pending appeal) 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Kaminski Brittain Hyam(C) Wharton Pickering Morton Wharton Hedges Szmodics Brereton Diaz Gallagher 1 Quote
Miller11 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Kaminski Brittain Hyam(C) Wharton Pickering Morton Wharton Hedges Szmodics Brereton Diaz Gallagher Are Hedges and Gallagher expected to be fit? I hope so, both are a big miss at the moment. Quote
jim mk2 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Miller11 said: No makeshift right backs No actual right backs at left back No Brereton playing like an old fashioned winger No strikers who are miles off the required standard Less kamikaze passing in and around our own box Don’t think any of the above is too much to ask. Please email this to the manager Tomasson wasted 9 hours of my life and £75 in petrol and ticket money yesterday 9 Quote
Miller11 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, jim mk2 said: Please email this to the manager Tomasson wasted 9 hours of my life and £75 in petrol and ticket money yesterday The top point used to really bug me with Mowbray. It was always to our detriment when he inexplicably left Nyambe out for Bennett or Rankin-Costello. It’s ridiculous that Tomasson seems to be doing the same thing. Brittain should be starting every game he is at least 75% fit for at right back/wing back. Sticking any old player in at right back to “do a job” is what you’d expect to see in an under 14s game at Blacksnape, not at Ewood Park in the Championship. I don’t know why it seems to only happen with right backs, but it makes the managers who do it look weak for accommodating players, or just plain stupid. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: £18.75 isn't a particularly great deal either. considering it`s £15 to watch chorley i think it`s a very good deal Quote
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: £18.75 isn't a particularly great deal either. Think yourself lucky we weren't formed later - or it would have been more expensive 🤣 3 Quote
Displaced Rover Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: considering it`s £15 to watch chorley i think it`s a very good deal Regardless of other teams, it was £14.60 last year, even in the current financial climate, £18.75 is quite the rise. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, Miller11 said: Are Hedges and Gallagher expected to be fit? I hope so, both are a big miss at the moment. Tomasson said that he hopes Gallagher is fit "before the World Cup" so must be a major doubt. 43 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: considering it`s £15 to watch chorley i think it`s a very good deal It's not enough of a discount to really boost the crowd noticeably I wouldn't imagine. If Chorley charge that much then I suspect that they are massively overcharging. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Tomasson said that he hopes Gallagher is fit "before the World Cup" so must be a major doubt. It's not enough of a discount to really boost the crowd noticeably I wouldn't imagine. If Chorley charge that much then I suspect that they are massively overcharging. yes they are imo,but are still getting over a 1000 every home game,very well run club though,social club is always packed and the food around the ground is excellent Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) It’s a whole quid cheaper than what we charge for a night game. Of course it’s good to see a sensible price for a Saturday match for once, and we will see a decent enough gate as a result, but it isn’t a mega discounted price that would see a massive uplift on normal. Edited November 2, 2022 by Mattyblue Quote
tomphil Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Miller11 said: The top point used to really bug me with Mowbray. It was always to our detriment when he inexplicably left Nyambe out for Bennett or Rankin-Costello. It’s ridiculous that Tomasson seems to be doing the same thing. Brittain should be starting every game he is at least 75% fit for at right back/wing back. Sticking any old player in at right back to “do a job” is what you’d expect to see in an under 14s game at Blacksnape, not at Ewood Park in the Championship. I don’t know why it seems to only happen with right backs, but it makes the managers who do it look weak for accommodating players, or just plain stupid. When we are second in the league experimental line ups and project tactics should take a back seat. Cannot for the life of me understand managers and coaches who seem to prioritise squad development before the pursuit of points. Treat every game like it's your last, not like a training match. 4 Quote
tomphil Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: yes they are imo,but are still getting over a 1000 every home game,very well run club though,social club is always packed and the food around the ground is excellent Nope they are now getting 8/900 where they were getting a 1000 + before and there is plenty angst at the price rises. Quote
DeeCee Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: £18.75 isn't a particularly great deal either. Well I'm making the 350 mile pilgrimage tomorrow and I've just shelled out a tad over £60 for me, daughter, son in law and 2 kids to see a game from the JW, pretty cheap if you ask me? 5 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) It’s cheaper. The point is it’s not markedly cheaper than a lot of other games, so it won’t lead to some huge crowd on a cold and wet November day. But as long as the ground feels busier than normal, which it will, then all good. Edited November 2, 2022 by Mattyblue Quote
tomphil Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: It’s cheaper. The point is it’s not markedly cheaper than a lot of other games, so it won’t lead to some huge crowd on a cold and wet November day. But as long as the ground feels busier than normal, which it will, then all good. Well it's almost a tenner cheaper in the JW upper outer so not to be sniffed at i expect a few more in there. 12/13k home fans is still low but an improvement on the last couple of home games. Might draw a few more away fans as well. Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Oh there is looking at the map. My point is more re those expecting an Oxford style crowd for a game in November at double the price of that fabled match (though that is what I’ve read from plenty on other SM, not particularly on here). 1 Quote
tomphil Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Oh aye there'll be plenty bleating going on when it isn't approaching 20k Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) ‘Absolutely terrible fans’, ‘all this moaning about prices and it was still half empty’. ‘They’ve done all they can, make it £30 from now on’. Not realising, of course, that say, 14k home fans is more than respectable when you only have 8,700 ST holders. Edited November 2, 2022 by Mattyblue 2 Quote
tomphil Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: ‘Absolutely terrible fans’, ‘all this moaning about prices and it was still half empty’. ‘They’ve done all they can, make it £30 from now on’. Not realising, of course, that say, 14k home fans is more than respectable when you only have 8,700 ST holders. When half our own fans don't understand our own fanbase it's no wonder those in suits at Ewood don't. Quote
BigBar Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Surprised to see the level of criticism on here for the two Wharton's - as has been pointed out by my sparring partner MP, in general when Scott plays we win and when he doesn't we don't. Also although I only caught the second half last night I thought Adam was our most likely looking player so I certainly wouldn't be dropping him either. If anyone I'd be looking at Travis who gave the ball away time after time last night and seems to have completely lost his mojo. I'm not sure either why people are clamouring for the return of Gallagher, he won't bring anything particular to the party, a classic case of a player improving in people's minds during their absence. We need BBD to pull out one final effort before the World Cup break and improve on his showing last night and then do what we failed to do last January and in the summer and sign a decent striker. Gally having a very good season and is playing with confidence and scored our goal of the season so far vs Boro. A big miss for me if unavailable Saturday. 7 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Once Rev makes his mind up, there ain’t no going back! 😁 2 Quote
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