January Transfer Window.

[Bethnal]

Rules are rules and if we haven’t followed them, I don’t understand the grounds for appeal, save for desperation.

it sounds as though it’s a f*ck-up on our end, which is basically inexcusable, as the buying entity.

I’ve not got experience of a deal with a firm, third-party deadline, but I’ve experienced deals that have fallen through from taking too long and a competitor comes in. In the majority of cases, someone lost their job over it (or with it as a major contributing factor). I’m not even saying it should definitely happen here, without understanding exactly what happened. But if it doesn’t come off, I fail to see another outcome in any other, rational industry.

There has to be an explanation and there has to be pressure to elicit that explanation.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

  On 01/02/2023 at 15:56, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

I mean, I don't usually trust Nicko but he'll be bang on here. Forest weren't going to stitch up one of their own players by making him play with the u'23s for six months, plus they've done about 100 deals in the past two windows. Our tin pot administration has struck once again.

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Doesn't matter how many deals you do - look at Chelsea and PSG

[Sweaty Gussets]

[Bbrovers2288]

I don’t know if the club can claw this back. This is a new low 

[Rogerb]

Desperate stuff but no such problems getting the outgoiñg markandy deal over the line probably spent all their time getting the appropriate paperwork for that deal in order!

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

No way this gets over the line now. There better be a phenomenal excuse to explain it. 

[roverandout]

Chaddy is uncharacteristically quiet today. I wonder why?

[Torgeir]

  On 01/02/2023 at 15:38, Miller11 said:

 
They don’t all have a happy ending.

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What does the EFL/FA have to gain on such a rigid approach here? "Let a playa play"

[MarkBRFC]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:13, Bbrovers2288 said:

I don’t know if the club can claw this back. This is a new low 

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Course they will.

Such is the apathy by March it will be old news.

Everyone will be saying "well lets see what we do in the summer window" etc etc

[den]

How could rovers at this point - I guess it was GB, because it appears that JDT doesn’t get involved - possibly commit to paying £10m for a player unproven at PL level?

I really don’t understand how the current management structure works. Or shouldn’t I say I don’t understand how it can succeed. Not here anyway.

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[Ossydave]

If we don't manage to somehow get the deal through I'm genuinely not sure how many more games I can be arsed to attend for the remainder of the season.

[Inferi]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:11, Sweaty Gussets said:

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Sounds so unprofessional. Ridiculous.

[J*B]

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

[Displaced Rover]

Joke of a football club. Can you imagine John Williams letting it happen on his watch? So many people throughout the club are just stealing a living (several players fit that category as well). Whole structure needs burning down and starting again.

[PeteJD13]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:19, J*B said:

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

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the bit i have heard is he wants to come here and play football, but he's not interested in a perm move, i think thats collapsed the deal

[davulsukur]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:11, Sweaty Gussets said:

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Obviously, seems like Rovers have dropped a bollock here but the EFL are a set of cretins as well. O'Brien clearly has no future at Forest but they are clearly not arsed about the players career, just happy to block it and let him rot in the Forest's reserves.

[vyeo]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:18, Inferi said:

Sounds so unprofessional. Ridiculous.

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And yet so believeable.

[MarkBRFC]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:19, J*B said:

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

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Could it not go through just as a "loan" deal then in that case if all partys were happy?

[Sweaty Gussets]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:18, Inferi said:

Sounds so unprofessional. Ridiculous.

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Yep, sounds like nobody at Rovers clicked that the terms of his potential permanent contract with us had to be agreed before he/Rovers signed him up to it.  

[Torgeir]

I'm sure this transfer window system could be challenged in the courts again like Bosman did in his time. I don't see a need for it at all, especially with the three-club rule in place also.

[SoldierMo]

Bunch of jokers

[Sweaty Gussets]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:19, J*B said:

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

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Nixon's already said as much, see a few posts up. 

[Paul Mani]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:19, J*B said:

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

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Wow, if that’s the case….people need to be held to account. Unthinkable that a team sat there including a DOF with likely £500k in wages between em couldn’t fathom this out 😳

[den]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:20, PeteJD13 said:

the bit i have heard is he wants to come here and play football, but he's not interested in a perm move, i think thats collapsed the deal

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Sounds quite feasible 

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

  On 01/02/2023 at 16:18, Inferi said:

Sounds so unprofessional. Ridiculous.

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Could be that EFL delayed the checks on contract situation  - and that is the defence ? TBH who knows - just wait and see - but doesn't look good.