January Transfer Window.

[Penwortham Blue]

3 hours ago, The Gull said:

Who knows, maybe this will motivate the current lot to show us they are worthy of the shirt and we had nothing to worry about....

One would like to think so, in the face of adversity. I would love us to stick together, pack out Ewood, support our team and show the world that we are still here, loyal and standing despite all the shit we have had thrown at as over the next 12 years. However, the reality is that we are largely broken and many fans will decide to throw the towel in and sadly, they can hardly be blamed.

[bluebruce]

7 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

 

At that stage they indicated they didn’t have space in the 25-man squad for him. At that stage there, of course we have to offer the support mechanisms in place.

 

but every penny of that, for a club of Rochdale’s status right now, is absolutely vital. We have to find a way of ensuring that income can go to them and ensuring that Ethan can become a Blackburn Rovers player.

5 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

in the LT article.

WWWM, I assume you mean the same quotes OEB posted. That doesn't read like 'we are going to pay LOB's wages for 6 months anyway' to me. I don't see how that could happen, and if it were, the minimum the club would expect from Forest would be to not slag them off in the media.

I should think 'support mechanisms' refers to trying to appeal the decision and chatting to the player to make sure he's alright, that sort of tosh. Perhaps even offering counselling if it's affecting him that badly (I doubt that will be required). Just corporate jargon about basic HR type support. We're shit but we're not dumb enough to pay 65k p/w for 6 months for a player we can't use.

[Penwortham Blue]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-lewis-obrien-blackburn-8108176

Cooper and Forest not happy with us.

Just listened to Cooper on Radio Lancashire, he’s livid and clearly sees Rovers as being unprofessional and letting their player down. Scathing

[yankfan]

44 minutes ago, Groundhog said:

Because it could get misconstrued and influence the case by any number of means - I agree it's not a court case but it's wise to keep things under wraps until it's been sorted. 

Or it could put public pressure on the FA to overturn the ruling. Guess it really depends on what got Feckered. 

[Oldgregg86]

19 minutes ago, Inferi said:

Just curious, why does the EFL require you to register a player's skin colour?

Probably for identification purposes 

[Leonard Venkhater]

Hendry having a real go at the Rovers management structure.

At least, he is pointing the finger....

Shitshow!

[Atko's Engine]

3 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Greggy grandstanding with the Premier league boys....probably forgot about the nitty-gritty paperwork.  Schoolboy error and a stackable offence.  I expect Tesco will be rubbing his hands together and having a nice cuppa and a slice of the old drizzle....

Your dislike of GB is so ingrained that you even take accidental pops at suggesting what his next career move should be!

(I disagree, just to be clear!)

[Hi Mack]

JDT is certainly not happy. I thought he’d go down the “we were unlucky” he certainly knows where the blame lies and he’s fuming! 

[yankfan]

42 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I think that if the appeal is successful, he may be more lenient towards whoever made the mistake, so it'd be unfair to go into it prior to that.

Or even just wording something verbally in a different way to a submitted appeal argument could affect the outcome of the appeal.

“It’s that in my knowledge, my very limited knowledge, nobody has ever won one of these cases against the Football League.”

seems a long shot 

[Tugayisgod]

Steve Cooper : " we won't let the lad down"

But we will sign a 33 year old free agent striker  with no chance of getting a game on a contract until the end of the season and ignore a £10m asset on a contract until 2026 by leaving him off our squad list 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Tugayisgod

[TugaysMarlboro]

This in no way absolves anyone at Ewood of blame.

But you have to wonder why there isn't a web portal for player transfers these days. Half of the issues around missing info and 'did it come in on time?' would be stopped quite easily.

Edited February 3, 2023 by TugaysMarlboro

[R0verb0y]

On 02/02/2023 at 14:58, Andy said:

If this is true (and we don’t know at this stage), it is entirely unacceptable.

I was considering a HST (can’t make every game due to work commitments), particularly on the back of O’Brien signing, but now there’s no chance.

We’re talking about a signing that legitimately could have pushed us into the promotion mix; which has a knock on effect of how bright the future of this club is.

But no, due to what seems to be sheer incompetence, computer says no.

Sack the Secretary if he’s to blame. Give me the job; I have a basic level of competency in my job and I actually give a shit about the club.

Not meaning to sound dramatic, but this could be a tipping point…

As people can probably tell, it's only now that I can bear to trawl through the entrails of this disaster. And for me, the phrase I've highlighted above is key here.

It isn't just you, @Andy, it's all of us on here ‐ we all give a shit about the club. We have an emotional attachment to the club which pre-dates Venky's involvement and is something that they can never have.

The Indian Glazers who are our current owners are about money; sentiment for what they own is an alien concept to them.

[Oldgregg86]

2 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Hendry having a real go at the Rovers management structure.

At least, he is pointing the finger....

Shitshow!

Where is everyone listening to all this 😅

[yankfan]

44 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Because he's not a legal expert and could phrase something in a way that could be misconstrued if quoted in the appeal. It's common to not go into details publicly before a legal case for this kind of reason.

I would also imagine those details do involve things that cast us in a bad light however you phrase them, things they might not mention in the appeal (like Sylvester fell asleep with his thumb up his arse so they couldn't get him to sign anything) but until we find out specifically what happened, I can only speculate. If we don't get the details after the appeal is done, then I'll agree it's to save face.

Seems we should just blame Covid. Sylvester removed his thumb from his ass to sign papers then realized he was positive for Covid and had to quarantine. 

[yankfan]

“It’s that in my knowledge, my very limited knowledge, nobody has ever won one of these cases against the Football League.”

Could you imagine the complaints of the appeal falls in our favor and we win promotion. 

[CD_93]

Addendum from Nicko.

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Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien was delayed by TWO crazy late hold-ups.

The Nottingham Forest midfielder’s transfer ended up as a proposed loan with a view to signing in a £10 million deal.

The move was to be made permanent and the money was due to be paid on promotion but the EFL queried this in the final half hour of the window.

Bizarrely the EFL wanted to know what would happen if Rovers were RELEGATED and asked for clarification in a new agreement to be sent over.

This formality needed to be covered in writing by Blackburn in the paperwork and was queried by the EFL - despite the obvious answer.

Blackburn’s correction did not come in by the strict 11pm deadline.

Rovers are likely to contest that there was no need for this ‘relegation clause’ had to be inserted.

A further delay had been caused when Rovers filled in an agent’s agreement form to go with the transfer.

However the name of the agent was wrongly filled in. O’Brien is represented by former player Kevin Sharp but Blackburn had him down as Kevin Sharpe with a final ‘e.’

 

[RoversClitheroe]

Another Nicko Patreon article? 👀

[Leonard Venkhater]

5 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Steve Cooper : " we won't let the lad down"

But we will sign a 33 year old free agent striker  with no chance of getting a game on a contract until the end of the season and ignore a £10m asset on a contract until 2026 by leaving him off our squad list 

Yeah, I thought Cooper-in all his pug ugliness-rather overplayed Forest's generosity and care for the player-a player they couldn't get out of the door quickly enough..

[Leonard Venkhater]

6 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Where is everyone listening to all this 😅

Radio Lancs sport

[Miller11]

This must be the longest Chaddy has gone without posting (apart from when he’s been on a ban).

[Mercer]

5 hours ago, Ricky said:

Have we moved the training ground to Manchester? That’s where Greg said he went to meet him.

I understand Manchester is centre of the universe during the transfer window with suites of rooms taken in one particular hotel.  Medicals also lined up at Manchester City!!!

[ben_the_beast]

3 minutes ago, CD_93 said:

Blackburn’s on-off move for Lewis O’Brien was delayed by TWO crazy late hold-ups.

The Nottingham Forest midfielder’s transfer ended up as a proposed loan with a view to signing in a £10 million deal.

The move was to be made permanent and the money was due to be paid on promotion but the EFL queried this in the final half hour of the window.

Bizarrely the EFL wanted to know what would happen if Rovers were RELEGATED and asked for clarification in a new agreement to be sent over.

This formality needed to be covered in writing by Blackburn in the paperwork and was queried by the EFL - despite the obvious answer.

Blackburn’s correction did not come in by the strict 11pm deadline.

Rovers are likely to contest that there was no need for this ‘relegation clause’ had to be inserted.

A further delay had been caused when Rovers filled in an agent’s agreement form to go with the transfer.

However the name of the agent was wrongly filled in. O’Brien is represented by former player Kevin Sharp but Blackburn had him down as Kevin Sharpe with a final ‘e.’

Wow. Just, wow. If this is true then I agree that we need to be more careful and diligent with our paperwork. But how petty is this? The EFL aren't fit to govern. If paperwork is sent back for a reason plucked out of thin air. Surely if there is clarification needed on these sorts of things then the initial timestamp of the submitted paperwork should be honoured. 

[RoversClitheroe]

2 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

Wow. Just, wow. If this is true then I agree that we need to be more careful and diligent with our paperwork. But how petty is this? The EFL aren't fit to govern. If paperwork is sent back for a reason plucked out of thin air. Surely if there is clarification needed on these sorts of things then the initial timestamp of the submitted paperwork should be honoured. 

Agreed.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Mercer said:

I understand Manchester is centre of the universe during the transfer window with suites of rooms taken in one particular hotel.  Medicals also lined up at Manchester City!!!

It's like an air crash investigation. There appear to have been multiple faults and events. It starts with doing a deal on deadline day, which is leaving it until the last minute in anyone's book, to proof-reading the paperwork before it is submitted.

Having the medicals done in Manchester is yet another thing - a detour, and by the sounds of it, a dining distraction. Why can't the medicals be done at Brockhall or nearby? If you take just one of the many elements in play on the day - preparation, complacency, logistics, checking papers, etc. - then we would be sat here talking about a decent window instead of a poor one and, worse, amateurs in positions of responsibility.

[ben_the_beast]

Pretty obvious that the club is leaking news to Nixon as a means of trying to strengthen their chances during the appeal. Those reasons for the deals being rejected are ridiculous. 

Make the reasons public and expose the EFL for the unfit organisation that they are. If they reject appeals out of fear of a backlash from other clubs having this information in the public domain is a last chance attempt at getting them to see sense.