roversfan99 Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: what that based on? Underwhelming goal record, Cardiff fans seemingly in unison that he isn't very good, and whenever I have seen Cardiff on Sky and he has played, he has been part of an impotent Cardiff attack. Granted I didn't watch the game at Cardiff earlier in the season as I was away in which he did score a very good goal. Mark Harris, Sam Gallagher and Jack Vale would be possibly the worst set of strikers in the league. Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Underwhelming goal record, Cardiff fans seemingly in unison that he isn't very good, and whenever I have seen Cardiff on Sky and he has played, he has been part of an impotent Cardiff attack. Granted I didn't watch the game at Cardiff earlier in the season as I was away in which he did score a very good goal. Mark Harris, Sam Gallagher and Jack Vale would be possibly the worst set of strikers in the league. I don't based opinions on other fans opinion on their player. On Harris, I don't know much about him so don't have opinion him or what is best position is cos when you look into where he has played its in 3 different positions whether its as the number 9 or left of the attack or right of the attack. He did score a very good goal against us Quote
booth Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I don't based opinions on other fans opinion on their player. On Harris, I don't know much about him so don't have opinion him or what is best position is cos when you look into where he has played its in 3 different positions whether its as the number 9 or left of the attack or right of the attack. He did score a very good goal against us Do you base your opinions on player records? Quote
Herbie6590 Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Jimmy612 said: 24 isn't exactly a whippersnapper... 14 goals in 120 senior appearances, 9 in 74 for Cardiff. That's pretty underwhelming stuff! Welcome to this week's "NAME THAT STRIKER" competition...😉 8 goals in 63 games BTW 👇 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said: At least he's a man who held his hand up and accepted the blame, he didn't hide under a stone. He didn’t need to hide, it’ll be business as usual next week. Move along, nothing to see here. 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, booth said: Do you base your opinions on player records? Of course he doesn't. If they're coming here they get a free pass. Which is fine to a degree, but I reckon he'd be the same if we signed me or thee. 2 Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said: Transfer related, we all know that BBD is going to Villa Real but unless I have missed it, is this still to be officially confirmed ? Maybe they will add it in as a footnote to a failed appeal statement on Tuesday 🙈 So, apparently he hasn’t committed to Villa Real as yet. Probably the worst case scenario now, he has no contract from June and will be shit scared of getting injured and jeopardising future contract / earning potential as without the safety net of a signed and sealed 5 year contract. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 just as tony collected wide strikers,we are now in the hunt for non scoring centre forwards,as we already have two why not get another one🤣 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, booth said: Do you base your opinions on player records? I do based my opinion on players record aswell has other factors Quote
LDRover Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Thought we had a 'data based' recruitment team now? Would be very interested to see the data they crunched to come up with prolific Mark F##king Harris 2 Quote
Upside Down Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, LDRover said: Thought we had a 'data based' recruitment team now? Would be very interested to see the data they crunched to come up with prolific Mark F##king Harris They've opened up a spreadsheet on excel. Not put anything in it yet butthey do have a 'database' now. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Penwortham Blue said: So, apparently he hasn’t committed to Villa Real as yet. Probably the worst case scenario now, he has no contract from June and will be shit scared of getting injured and jeopardising future contract / earning potential as without the safety net of a signed and sealed 5 year contract. We haven't seen him for 11 games anyway tbf. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, LDRover said: Thought we had a 'data based' recruitment team now? Would be very interested to see the data they crunched to come up with prolific Mark F##king Harris At least he's quick - but yes, they were clearly at the bottom of their potential list at that point. Doesn't matter anyway, we wouldn't have got the paperwork sorted in time. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 the recruitment policy of signing only young players so their value theoretically increases is so flawed its unreal,players only increase in value if you go up the league,win games and score goals,we don`t look like doing any of those in the near future,it`s very worrying,in fact in the next two years if this lot continue,we`ll have a side full of 18 yr olds getting bullied off the park 1 Quote
tomphil Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, booth said: Do you base your opinions on player records? This is the what we are going to get though they are clearly fishing around for the next BBD type project striker. Hirst, loan to buy 5 mill fee agreed - flop, sense seen and sent back, on to the next one, freebie but will probably cost double in wages now. Maybe he'll price himself out of it. If i was JDT i'd be telling them in no uncertain terms when Ben leaves we need a proper goalscorer otherwise we are fecked and i'm off ! Edited February 5, 2023 by tomphil Quote
islander200 Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: the recruitment policy of signing only young players so their value theoretically increases is so flawed its unreal,players only increase in value if you go up the league,win games and score goals,we don`t look like doing any of those in the near future,it`s very worrying,in fact in the next two years if this lot continue,we`ll have a side full of 18 yr olds getting bullied off the park The 2 main signings in terms of money spent are Hyam and Szmodic. You wouldn't describe either as kids both coming into their prime 3 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, islander200 said: The 2 main signings in terms of money spent are Hyam and Szmodic. You wouldn't describe either as kids both coming into their prime did`nt broughton state the clubs transfer policy is to bring young players to the club,increase their value and sell them on to be self sufficient,flawed thinking because you need to get good ones and register them on time,i doubt the lad from rochdale and mark harris from cardiff had the ability to increase their value,irrelevant anyway because the current backroom regime is`nt of the required standard to purchase players to get us up the league and increase the players values Quote
Upside Down Posted February 5, 2023 Author Posted February 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: did`nt broughton state the clubs transfer policy is to bring young players to the club,increase their value and sell them on to be self sufficient,flawed thinking because you need to get good ones and register them on time,i doubt the lad from rochdale and mark harris from cardiff had the ability to increase their value,irrelevant anyway because the current backroom regime is`nt of the required standard to purchase players. Fixed. Quote
islander200 Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said: did`nt broughton state the clubs transfer policy is to bring young players to the club,increase their value and sell them on to be self sufficient,flawed thinking because you need to get good ones and register them on time,i doubt the lad from rochdale and mark harris from cardiff had the ability to increase their value,irrelevant anyway because the current backroom regime is`nt of the required standard to purchase players to get us up the league and increase the players values Why do you doubt an 80k youngster from Rochdale can increase in value? He was being bought for the future not to be put into the first team straight away, all clubs make such signings. Sheffield United also wanted him They say a lot of things but at the end of the day our 2 main signings in terms of money spent were both 27. They also say promotion isnt on the agenda this year but willing to pay O'Briens wage and Sorba Thomas wage for 6 month whatever they say I do not believe they were doing that to finish tenth this season. Buying , developing, selling , reinvesting should be the route we are going down if we want to become more competitive in the market.But agreed Broughton not showing he can deliver, an average to mediocre window and an awful one ,got to be third time lucky for this fella . 3 Quote
R0verb0y Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 On 04/02/2023 at 12:52, Exiled_Rover said: Then most fans you speak to are fools. This hasn't been a well run club since Williams left. That's a bit harsh, @Exiled_Rover. I'd like to think that most of us - me included! - on here are reasonably intelligent; even though my eyes cross at some of the higher finance "stuff" we read about on this Board. Quote
den Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, islander200 said: Buying , developing, selling , reinvesting should be the route we are going down if we want to become more competitive in the market.But agreed Broughton not showing he can deliver, an average to mediocre window and an awful one ,got to be third time lucky for this fella . We’ve been trying to do that for 13 years. We sold an entire PL squad in order to go down that route. It was the only way for a club like ours, struggling in its attempt to get into 7th place in the PL to push on. It doesn’t work. That’s a plan that never holds anyone to account, never sets targets and it’s a plan for failure. Why do some fans fall for this bollocks? 1 Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, LDRover said: Thought we had a 'data based' recruitment team now? Would be very interested to see the data they crunched to come up with prolific Mark F##king Harris Doesn't really shape up that way, data is part of the process but it's not taken over in the way it's sometimes being portrayed. Director of Football (Gregg) & Head Coach (JDT) sit above Head of Recruitment (Gus Williams) sitting above Head of UK Scouting, Head of European Scouting & Head of Data Scouting sitting above Part Time/Full Time Scouts & Part Time Data Analyst Data based roles highlighted in red* Quote
1874 Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Does this sound like a club with ambitions on promotion Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 If anyone subscribes to the LT could they copy and paste this article please Uncomfortable questions for Blackburn Rovers after transfer failings | Lancashire Telegraph Quote
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