January Transfer Window.

[JHRover]

Meanwhile the Clubs 'hunting' us down in the chase for the playoffs consist of Luton, Millwall, muddled Mowbray's recently League One Sunderland, QPR, Swansea, Reading and Preston. 

Why are people still talking about parachute money when none of that lot get any yet are able to complete January business?

[rover23]

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

and we haven't put all our eggs in one basket tho have tho and to be quite honest on one on here has a clue what is going on at Rovers behind the scenes. 

Also this recruitment team has been together for about 3 months in total not 6 months. But also we have been let down twice by 2 clubs when terms of a loan deal was agreed for a striker. do Rovers get the blame for that or those 2 clubs and officials? 

Also no heads need to roll but further investment is needed to find these hidden gems and looking overseas for talent which we can develop and bring on. 

Cos him signing for Villareal is next season. 

Your question was asked about him signing a pre-contract agreement now.

[roversfan99]

It's not about the details of the individual deals, ultimately it will come down to which players are signed at the end of the window. We have taken a bit of a gamble by sticking to the deals for Undav and this Kone right until the end of the window, we have made a conscious decision to do that and thus if for whatever reason you don't get them deals done then your gamble has backfired and you deserve all of the criticism that comes your way.

When it comes to the rest of the season and we need a goal, we can't bring on "decided to stay with his parent club" or "the parent club changed their mind" when we need a goal so we will lose points with our 2 current poor quality strikers, one of whom struggled to score last season in non league.

The main problem is from the owners obviously, our assets run down their contracts and we are left looking to beg to borrow players. But Broughton and his recruitment team also get lots of blame.

If we get nobody, then even if these excuses would stick with the strikers, even if we did sign a striker it would leave us short in midfield. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Meanwhile the Clubs 'hunting' us down in the chase for the playoffs consist of Luton, Millwall, muddled Mowbray's recently League One Sunderland, QPR, Swansea, Reading and Preston. 

Why are people still talking about parachute money when none of that lot get any yet are able to complete January business?

That’s about framing and perspective. We’re above those teams. And the only reason FFP is being discussed is because of a discussion about why the wage bill is being reduced.

[Penwortham Blue]

1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Meanwhile the Clubs 'hunting' us down in the chase for the playoffs consist of Luton, Millwall, muddled Mowbray's recently League One Sunderland, QPR, Swansea, Reading and Preston. 

Why are people still talking about parachute money when none of that lot get any yet are able to complete January business?

Once more, evidence that other comparable clubs are managing to get deals over the line to give their supporters a boost and themselves a chance. 

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Ok, so to clarify, even if we don't sign anyone else, you won't be putting any questions (metaphorically) towards Broughton and the recruitment team?

no, Cos I expect us to sign a striker before the deadline if not another one. 

But if we don't then Broughton will explain the reasons what happen. Which I will accept them at face value

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The transfer market is about identifying players that are realistic, and the longer in the window you leave it, you risk putting your eggs in one or two baskets with no back up plan if they fall through. There are always bloody excuses, its never our fault.

We would have identified a number of strikers and in fact we had 2 players who we had agreements to sign here but 2 clubs have gone back on those deals. Is that Rovers fault at all? 

Rovers would have identified a number of strikers on a shortlist. Probably around 20 to 30 players

 

[Theaxe15]

4 minutes ago, rover23 said:

“Clubs” means we don’t have a chance. Unless he’s willing to take a huge pay cut or take those charity singles in part exchange.

[rigger]

4 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Many feel like this, look at our thousands of lost ST holders. But if the 8,500 of us now left give up, what hope is left for this once great, world renowned football club that we all still love. There are some things that you just can’t give up on and for me, that is my football club. 

You don't have to give up on the Rovers. Just don't buy a season ticket at an exorbitant price, thus stopping Waggot reaching his set financial goal.

[Penwortham Blue]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

no, Cos I expect us to sign a striker before the deadline if not another one. 

But if we don't then Broughton will explain the reasons what happen. Which I will accept them at face value

We would have identified a number of strikers and in fact we had 2 players who we had agreements to sign here but 2 clubs have gone back on those deals. Is that Rovers fault at all? 

Rovers would have identified a number of strikers on a shortlist. Probably around 20 to 30 players

 

Then don’t wait until the last hours of a window before you get to target no 29

[roversfan99]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

no, Cos I expect us to sign a striker before the deadline if not another one. 

But if we don't then Broughton will explain the reasons what happen. Which I will accept them at face value

We would have identified a number of strikers and in fact we had 2 players who we had agreements to sign here but 2 clubs have gone back on those deals. Is that Rovers fault at all? 

Rovers would have identified a number of strikers on a shortlist. Probably around 20 to 30 players

 

See my last post above. If we have got such a long shortlist, then we have 18-28 more to go at and there are no excuses not to get one in.

I said IF we don't sign another striker. If we do, obviously we can judge base on who he is. But if not, they have royally fucked up, yet you have already decided that you will accept the excuses regardless.

[CheshireRover]

12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

This is my last go-around to be honest. If they mess up this partnership by not supporting JDT (after years of supporting Mowbray and his wasteful signings) then I'll be done.

It's a soulless club now anyway - the town is detached from the club now, you can feel it. 

You're right. If there was ever a time to sell Ewood and move onto the outskirts in a soulless bowl with 17-20k seats, it's this next few years.

I am not advocating for that just to confirm, but barely anyone would raise an eyebrow.

[JHRover]

2 minutes ago, JoeH said:

That’s about framing and perspective. We’re above those teams. And the only reason FFP is being discussed is because of a discussion about why the wage bill is being reduced.

The wage bill hasn't just been reduced. It has been demolished. 

This process has been running now for 3-4 years through a failure to renew contracts, exodus of experienced players, influx of younger end players and failure to bring in established or experienced quality.

Rather than it all being down to FFP, which other clubs are showing doesn't stop recruitment, perhaps it is at least in part down to the owners turning the money taps off again? Do you accept this is at least a possibility to be considered?

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, Penwortham Blue said:

Then don’t wait until the last hours of a window before you get to target no 29

But you are ignoring a range of different factors at play there

Just now, roversfan99 said:

See my last post above. If we have got such a long shortlist, then we have 18-28 more to go at and there are no excuses not to get one in.

I said IF we don't sign another striker. If we do, obviously we can judge base on who he is. But if not, they have royally fucked up, yet you have already decided that you will accept the excuses regardless.

Similar to my point about you are ignoring a number of different factors and lets not forget we had a deal agreed with Brighton and Undav before they back tracked on that deal.

I will ask again are Rovers to blame for that deal failing or is it Brighton fault for Undav deal not happening? 

I don't see them as excuses but as what has actually happen as fact! 

[Sweaty Gussets]

1 hour ago, phili said:

Ok I will pop it back to you.

All the funds they have is £10k a week from the release of Hirst to bring in the players that's it this month. No additional funds from Venky's. 

The recruitment team and GB must also knock a £100k a week of next season's players budget, so no new deals for Ayala and Dack I would expect.

So how would you pull the rabbits out of these hats you expect all these amazing players to come from within our budget.

 

1 hour ago, phili said:

From a friend inside the club, might not be accurate but says all plans changed after meetings with Venky's in December to cost reductions.

So they've sold the project to GB/JDT in summer and then a few months later slashed the wage budget by 20-25% ??

If true, I would have expected 1 or both to have resigned. 

[Penwortham Blue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

But you are ignoring a range of different factors at play there

Similar to my point about you are ignoring a number of different factors and lets not forget we had a deal agreed with Brighton and Undav before they back tracked on that deal.

I will ask again are Rovers to blame for that deal failing or is it Brighton fault for Undav deal not happening? 

I don't see them as excuses but as what has actually happen as fact! 

You only have full agreement and business concluded, when the medical is done and the paperwork signed. You also learn from experience, the Dutch centre half from Liverpool was ‘agreed’ for weeks until he signed for Schalke ! If you can’t conclude and are getting concerned it won’t happen, move on and secure the next one quickly.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

That consultancy work but no involve in Football transfers and contracts negotiations tho. You only have to watched Sky Documentary on Football transfer window in the summer 2022 to see how complex transfers are. 

They were all encompassing strategic reviews - didn't know you were involved Chaddy, you should have introduced yourself!

[BankEnd Rover]

[DeeCee]

Can't see JDT getting his end of season bhunas unless he spices things up a bit.

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

But you are ignoring a range of different factors at play there

Similar to my point about you are ignoring a number of different factors and lets not forget we had a deal agreed with Brighton and Undav before they back tracked on that deal.

I will ask again are Rovers to blame for that deal failing or is it Brighton fault for Undav deal not happening? 

I don't see them as excuses but as what has actually happen as fact! 

You yourself said that we should have a big shortlist of various targets that fit the criteria we want.

We have gambled on 2 targets that we havent managed to conclude which is a gamble. IF we dont get a striker at all, that isnt excusable considering aforementioned shortlist. If we dont sign a striker its simply unacceptable, end of. 

[Sweaty Gussets]

6 minutes ago, Mercer said:

They were all encompassing strategic reviews - didn't know you were involved Chaddy, you should have introduced yourself!

So nothing to do with you recruiting players? 

[ItsRoverZ]

5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Mothibaa du du da da du du Mothibaa to the tune of that awful tequila song, for this alone we must sign him

[tomphil]

17 minutes ago, CheshireRover said:

You're right. If there was ever a time to sell Ewood and move onto the outskirts in a soulless bowl with 17-20k seats, it's this next few years.

I am not advocating for that just to confirm, but barely anyone would raise an eyebrow.

Well considering just about everybody running and owning the club is completely detached from the town it would be no surprise if that happened one day.

They'd lose thousands more fans but would they even bother if they can run a low grade version plodding along with 5k ?

It's certainly a model that is achievable with this crew.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, phili said:

Ok I will pop it back to you.

All the funds they have is £10k a week from the release of Hirst to bring in the players that's it this month. No additional funds from Venky's. 

The recruitment team and GB must also knock a £100k a week of next season's players budget, so no new deals for Ayala and Dack I would expect.

So how would you pull the rabbits out of these hats you expect all these amazing players to come from within our budget.

So there were meetings with Venky's in December and that was the supposed outcome.

At one stage, we were close to signing Porteous, Undav and Haikin - absolutely no way those deals would been sealed with a total £10k pw budget.  If that was the case, Whalley Wines would make Broughton an offer he couldn't refuse as surely he would be capable of turning water into wine!!!

 

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, ItsRoverZ said:

Mothibaa du du da da du du Mothibaa to the tune of that awful tequila song, for this alone we must sign him

Haaaa Just seen a clip of him. He looks absolutely rapid!!!! - zero chance of him coming