January Transfer Window.

[AllRoverAsia]

There is no medium or long term plan towards becoming "a sustainable PL" club

Both have to be made up of continuous and successful short term plans, which it is plainly obvious we do not have.

Edited January 31, 2023 by AllRoverAsia

[RoversClitheroe]

100% Rovers playing the game of link to everyone and then say "ah well we tried"

[arbitro]

3 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

Yes true. But Forest were massively underperforming before he took over, which I don't think anyone can say we are given the shambles we were on the summer and the position we're now.

Plus he did that using the loan market very heavily (which is frowned upon by many on here but is the reality of modern football) and, most importantly, under an owner that actually cares for the club & wanted success.

Spot the difference and let's not make GB & JDT scapegoats for the real problem.

I know what the problem is and hopefully everyone else does too but Tomasson and Broughton are complicit by talking about a three Summer transfer window project. That is where my objection is. This is football and there are more variables than any other business making it extremely difficult to make and plans. Unless you are a mega rich Premier League club then I believe it's too difficult to plan for the next few months never mind years.

[joey_big_nose]

Even if we signed O'Brien and Cook I'd still be absolutely furious that we didn't get a striker. 

Genuinely don't understand Cook btw.... he's 31? Has Ayala got a long term injury?

[TheRevAshton]

From Rich's live deadline day feed;

Edited January 31, 2023 by TheRevAshton

[SBlue]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I know what the problem is and hopefully everyone else does too but Tomasson and Broughton are complicit by talking about a three Summer transfer window project. That is where my objection is. This is football and there are more variables than any other business making it extremely difficult to make and plans. Unless you are a mega rich Premier League club then I believe it's too difficult to plan for the next few months never mind years.

I remember our squad in preseason when they came in and think 3 windows was a fairly optimistic statement tbh.

[AllRoverAsia]

9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

100% Rovers playing the game of link to everyone and then say "ah well we tried"

The only game we have deep level experience at.

Edited January 31, 2023 by AllRoverAsia

[JHRover]

"Genuine and confirmed interest"

Just for the record I can confirm that I have a genuine interest in buying a superyacht. If the vendor is willing to sell it to me for what I can afford I'll buy it.

[BankEnd Rover]

Yeah I don’t believe cook is true & glad it isn’t — O’brien is a must (however I had my doubts) & also a striker. If Donkey Gally gets injured,  which often happens, we will be left with vale…..

[rovers11]

If O'brien, Cook, and a striker come in then we've had a blinder. The good thing about being 10 hours away from the deadline is that you can still dream. 

[DeeCee]

We tried but......

 

 

 

[Guest]

'West Brom to beat Blackburn to the signing of Lewis O'Brien after offering £14 and 4 hob nobs'

[Danny O.Brien]

Can anyone remember last January deadline day who were we linked too? I remember dembele instead went to Bournemouth. Who were the other names, who we let's be honest had no chance of getting.

[BankEnd Rover]

We should be going for Lyle Taylor @ Forest IMO. 

[TruRover]

Obrien would be a bonkers signing. Best CM in the league in his day, or at least up there.

 

Cook would be a no from me. I think we’re pretty well stocked with decent CBs, the only one that would be worthwhile brining in would be VanHecke.

Any names for the striker? 

[RevidgeBlue]

23 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

Spot the difference and let's not make GB & JDT scapegoats for the real problem.

Obviously there must be some money available as the recruitment team of which GB is a key component have been scurrying around failing to land their chosen targets. It's not been a case of "we're not even looking to add anyone because we've  no money."

Secondly, money was really badly spent In summer imo. £1.8m plus add ons for Szmodics to sit in the treatment room? £10k p.w. in wages for Hirst to never feature? Mola? God knows how much it's costing to loan Morton out. Won't be cheap if the estimates of £1m for HALF a season plus full wages for Sorba Thomas are correct which in itself doesn't strike me as particularly good value either.

So yeah, let's not let GB off the hook for not doing his job and revert back to the default position of automatically blaming everything on the owners. There's little doubt in my mind that if we were going down the DOF route we should have picked an actual experienced DOF rather than a recently out of work Academy Director but nevertheless you'd expect GB to have an actual working knowledge of the market and where there are gems to be unearthed and bargains to be found.

Edited January 31, 2023 by RevidgeBlue

[Oldgregg86]

Someone send a shit load of revels to Sunderland for Stewart, even injured he’s going to be better than what we inevitability do or don’t end up with

[Miller11]

19 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

One million loan and full wages.

If this is true, it’s an absolutely criminal use of funds and blows holes in any future poverty pleading.

[J*B]

Astonished it’s 1pm and there’s no rumour of a striker. 

[Atko's Engine]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I know what the problem is and hopefully everyone else does too but Tomasson and Broughton are complicit by talking about a three Summer transfer window project. That is where my objection is. This is football and there are more variables than any other business making it extremely difficult to make and plans. Unless you are a mega rich Premier League club then I believe it's too difficult to plan for the next few months never mind years.

But Venkys have spent a decade decimating us & have undone everything Jack built, besides the academy. That being the case, and with the academy being a long term project by definition, then any return to growth has to have that as it's bedrock & therefore must be central to the longer term.

The club has to balance short term potential for promotion against long term regeneration, especially as an unfashionable club in a poor economic area with new sustainability rules coming in and with a hardcore fanbase of 8 or 9 thousand fans, half of whom wonder why they bother as it is. Yes show ambition this season & aim to go up, but don't risk the longer overall strategy of growing with firm foundations, which is what was written on the tin when GB& JDT arrived in the summer.

 Here's hoping we can get some good deals over the line today. 👍

 

[CambridgeRover]

1 minute ago, J*B said:

Astonished it’s 1pm and there’s no rumour of a striker. 

Harry Leonard has been promoted to the main squad and he will be the new striker. The club tried their hardest /s

Edited January 31, 2023 by CambridgeRover

[TheRevAshton]

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

Astonished it’s 1pm and there’s no rumour of a striker. 

Agreed, i've just asked our Ricky about that on Twitter - worth a try eh

[Penwortham Blue]

3 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

But Venkys have spent a decade decimating us & have undone everything Jack built, besides the academy. That being the case, and with the academy being a long term project by definition, then any return to growth has to have that as it's bedrock & therefore must be central to the longer term.

The club has to balance short term potential for promotion against long term regeneration, especially as an unfashionable club in a poor economic area with new sustainability rules coming in and with a hardcore fanbase of 8 or 9 thousand fans, half of whom wonder why they bother as it is. Yes show ambition this season & aim to go up, but don't risk the longer overall strategy of growing with firm foundations, which is what was written on the tin when GB& JDT arrived in the summer.

 Here's hoping we can get some good deals over the line today. 👍

 

The half that wonder why they bother will probably be long gone rather than waiting on the ‘jam tomorrow’ journey. Without them, and the thousands more that have been lost, the club will be on life support well before any destination is in sight 🙈

[DE.]

As others have said, if playoffs aren't the ambition this season then what are they asking the fans to pay significant money to watch? A developmental team? They can do that for much less with the U23's and U18's. 

It really is disgusting sometimes how they take what's left of the fanbase for granted, treating the fans' hard-earned money like it's essentially worthless - all whilst the lot of them get paid far more than they ever have or ever will deserve.

[Bbrovers2288]

Giakamakous from Celtic, available, go get it done gregg