January Transfer Window.

[roversfan99]

41 minutes ago, nbdelboy said:

honestly think the venky's suffer a bit of sentimentality to some players, and it ends up f'ing us business wise. the fact we let so many players leave for nothing through stubbornly offering them a million contracts instead of just selling them is bizarre? and look at the brereton situation! as a fan, i get it, but as people running a football club? it's just not sensible business.

It certainly does fuck us up business wise. If you have perhaps less resources than some of your competitors, you have to trade smartly. We either let players go for free whilst rejecting offers that would make us profits or even if we do sell, we don't invest any of that money. Crazy.

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, rigger said:

No, more like the Rovers this season were he has done fuck-all.

Again, a Championship failure vs a League One success. A deterrent for Championship sides for sure, will barely bother League One sides. League One is clearly his level. Not sure why you can't just concede this point.

[Sweaty Gussets]

42 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

SSN reckon Everton and Palace are after Chuba Akpom from Boro.

Maybe Everton have moved on from BBD?

I think Everton may be moving on from Lampard soon. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, davulsukur said:

SSN reckon Everton and Palace are after Chuba Akpom from Boro.

Maybe Everton have moved on from BBD?

I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s been more like BB than BBD for lots of this season. The position they are in they need to sign someone who is actually doing the business at the moment. They can’t afford to gamble.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[RoverCanada]

1 hour ago, nbdelboy said:

looking like louie annesley will be leaving this window before his contract's up. what a weird signing he's been? i know it's only gibraltar, but when you consider his age, the load of international games he's played, and just how long he's been here (five seasons now!) it's quite odd there's never once been anything whatsoever about him coming through into the first team, or even heading out on loan to develop? seems odd we'd bother keeping him for so long if we think so little of him? i saw him play for the u21s a few times, and he always seemed decent enough, no worse than many others on the pitch. odd!

He did make that one last ditch block against Bradford in the League Cup this year, which secured us the tie with West Ham (and then on to the next round against Forest), which will have raised our revenues by ~£400k+ this year.

So, boom, worthwhile signing 🙂

[Dolly blue]

2 hours ago, ben_the_beast said:

Ben Pearson would be an excellent signing. Exactly what is needed. 

Him and an adequate Hirst replacement and I'd be very happy. I highly doubt we have the funds for this though 

Can’t stand him in an opposition shirt ….would love him in a Rovers shirt, just what we’re missing…a nasty piece !

[rigger]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

Again, a Championship failure vs a League One success. A deterrent for Championship sides for sure, will barely bother League One sides. League One is clearly his level. Not sure why you can't just concede this point.

Because I have seen him play this season. He is shit scared of going in for a challange. I don't care what he has done in the past. From what I have seen, Hirst is not up to professional football at any level. We will have to wait and see who is right and who is wrong. That is why I will not concede this point.

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, rigger said:

Because I have seen him play this season. He is shit scared of going in for a challange. I don't care what he has done in the past. From what I have seen, Hirst is not up to professional football at any level. We will have to wait and see who is right and who is wrong. That is why I will not concede this point.

If you get 13 goals in League One, you're clearly a League One standard player - we've already seen who's right and wrong on that surely? I don't rate him at all but he's clearly a professional quality player.

[roversfan99]

It really was a strange signing for a top half Championship side considering he had a slightly less than 1 in 3 goal record in League 1. I dont know if the assumption was that he could maintain his run from the end of the season with the fact that he had struggled to score much of the time in League 1 dismissed but he cant have been our number 1 target.

That being said, obviously to even score that many in League 1 shows you are a reasonable professional player, he could play in the Conference where surely he would thrive (mind you we thought that about Vale!) therefore he is professional standard.

[rigger]

42 minutes ago, JoeH said:

If you get 13 goals in League One, you're clearly a League One standard player - we've already seen who's right and wrong on that surely? I don't rate him at all but he's clearly a professional quality player.

Let's see where he is playing next season.

[Swanson]

Jo Inge Berget has left Malmø now, free agent. Not wanted there anymore according to himself on Instagram. Wonder if JDT will pick up the phone...

Not a fan of Berget joining Rovers personally, mostly because of his age.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Swanson

[rigger]

55 minutes ago, JoeH said:

If you get 13 goals in League One, you're clearly a League One standard player - we've already seen who's right and wrong on that surely? I don't rate him at all but he's clearly a professional quality player.

I have seen absolutely nothing from Hirst to convince me he will make it, as a pro footballer. 

[Lucimo]

59 minutes ago, rigger said:

I have seen absolutely nothing from Hirst to convince me he will make it, as a pro footballer. 

He is a pro footballer and 14 goals in league 1 suggests he has made it. Not at the top level obviously and I agree it's unlikely he will. But pro football is played further down the chain than the championship. 

[AJW]

1 hour ago, Swanson said:

Jo Inge Berget has left Malmø now, free agent. Not wanted there anymore according to himself on Instagram. Wonder if JDT will pick up the phone...

Not a fan of Berget joining Rovers personally, mostly because of his age.

Is he good enough regardless of age ?

[J*B]

1 hour ago, Swanson said:

Jo Inge Berget has left Malmø now, free agent. Not wanted there anymore according to himself on Instagram. Wonder if JDT will pick up the phone...

Not a fan of Berget joining Rovers personally, mostly because of his age.

Depends on the wage, he must be better than some of the dross we’ve got on our books. 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Swanson said:

Jo Inge Berget has left Malmø now, free agent. Not wanted there anymore according to himself on Instagram. Wonder if JDT will pick up the phone...

Not a fan of Berget joining Rovers personally, mostly because of his age.

He'd be a stop gap for sure if JDT decided to approach. Don't really know much about him but a bit of experience, might not go a miss in our squad. (I'd prefer pace though!)

No idea how good he is though. 

 

Edited January 4, 2023 by davulsukur

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, rigger said:

Because I have seen him play this season. He is shit scared of going in for a challange. I don't care what he has done in the past. From what I have seen, Hirst is not up to professional football at any level. We will have to wait and see who is right and who is wrong. That is why I will not concede this point.

We won't have to wait and see though, as he has already demonstrated quite sufficiently that he is fine at League One level. 14 goals in League One simply isn't 'not up to professional football at any level' unless he has had a serious injury reducing his capability, which he hasn't. It's not really an opinion thing, you're simply empirically wrong.

He may be out of form, out of shape, struggling to adjust here or whatever, but the cast iron fact is he has shown he has the capability at that level.

Edited January 4, 2023 by bluebruce

[rigger]

18 minutes ago, Lucimo said:

He is a pro footballer and 14 goals in league 1 suggests he has made it. Not at the top level obviously and I agree it's unlikely he will. But pro football is played further down the chain than the championship. 

As I have said before. Let's see where Hirst is playing next season.

[Blue blood]

5 hours ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

I think Mowbray said if he had sold Rothwell he had a couple of players lined up - Dembele and Wallace (Millwall) from memory. 

Blimey! That is a swap I would do! Dembele is decent, and Wallace was excellent at Millwall and a good swap in itself. Aside from the eggs being in more baskets that's improving the squad. Mare to miss out on this alone. 

Mind you with Giles whacked onto the right I dare say they would have been rendered pointless by Dembele being in net and Wallace at centre back... 

[rigger]

7 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

We won't have to wait and see though, as he has already demonstrated quite sufficiently that he is fine at League One level. 14 goals in League One simply isn't 'not up to professional football at any level' unless he has had a serious injury reducing his capability, which he hasn't. It's not really an opinion thing, you're simply empirically wrong.

He may be out of form, out of shape, struggling to adjust here or whatever, but the cast iron fact is he has shown he has the capability at that level.

Do you remember Matt Jansen. A proven player, then he wasn't. I am not comparing the two, what I am saying is that things can change.

Edited January 4, 2023 by rigger

[Swanson]

9 minutes ago, AJW said:

Is he good enough regardless of age ?

Don't know to be honest. Maybe some Swedish fans can enlight us? I only remember him from the international games, but his last one was in 2017...

Maybe ho could do a job on a 6 month contract, he can play in different positions.

 

[Miller11]

1 hour ago, Swanson said:

Jo Inge Berget has left Malmø now, free agent. Not wanted there anymore according to himself on Instagram. Wonder if JDT will pick up the phone...

Not a fan of Berget joining Rovers personally, mostly because of his age.

At 32 he’s got the potential of a couple of good years still. His age and experience I actually see as a plus point. 

[bluebruce]

17 minutes ago, rigger said:

Do you remember Matt Jansen. A proven player, then he wasn't. I am not comparing the two, what I am saying is that things can change.

He nearly died in a motorbike accident and suffered head injuries. I already said in the post you quoted, 'unless he has had a serious injury reducing his capability, which he hasn't'. Even if his late-ish goal glut there was a fluke purple patch, I'd be astonished if no League One outfit at all, not even a newly promoted relegation battler, is interested in him. Doesn't mean such a move will happen - Leicester might not like the finances, as they'll want a bigger wage contribution since he signed a new, presumably better deal this summer.

I'd certainly be surprised if he pops up in the Championship again this season for another club though. Hasn't shown a damned thing at this level in two loan spells. Scored 0 in 32 for Rotherham in this league, and now piss poor for us. But we shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that because someone is gash at this level (or disinterested at U21s) they can't hack it in the one below, football history is chock full of examples of players who couldn't make that step up but were fine one rung below. It's why Prem teams are sometimes reluctant to take gambles on your Armstrongs and Breretons.

[Upside Down]

10 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

You need quality to get you over the line. Like ‘92 with Cowans, ‘01 with Hughes, Friedel and Berkovic.

Likes of Zeefuik and Giles when sitting 2nd and on the verge of something truly transformative for Blackburn Rovers, really?

Giles would have been good if that tosser didn't play him on the right wing.

And he didn't even play Hedges. 

[bluebruce]

24 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Giles would have been good if that tosser didn't play him on the right wing.

And he didn't even play Hedges. 

Yeh there was nothing wrong with the Giles signing, it was all about his misuse. I'd even say it was reasonably ambitious for a promotion chasing side, as he was the top assist maker in the league at the time despite being a wing back. Ol' Tony thought he knew better though, as usual.