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  On 06/01/2023 at 18:43, jny said:

He's the exact same age (born literally the same day) as Jamal Lowe who you said we should "definitely" take on, a few hours back.

The exact same height as well (though I'm struggling a little on whether that's also relevant or not...)

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Difference between a loan player to add some quality from the Premier League, than a costly permanent addition from League One to directly replace our best player. IMO.

With transfers, as with many things in life, context is everything. No two players are the same and very rarely are players situations ever the same.

Whilst it is true that JCH is an ageing player, it's more meant in the context that Rovers have a fairly clear policy of signing permanent players with high ROI potential.

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All this talk of the project, the longer term, forward planning etc. being criticised, for me brings to mind something Jack said when we won the title. Through tears of joy, he said that we'd achieved

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The more time I've had for the statement to sink in, the more angry I am about the phrase "..one of the deals was a very ambitious target.." Gaslighting us that the only problem here is that they

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If and its a big if, these deals don't happen due to further incompetence within the board room, then sack the board needs to start ringing loud and clear. Thats potentially a £200 million pound

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The fabled ‘ROI’ model. Been hearing about it for years now, AA aside, are we actually ever going to  see it in action? Or are we carrying on with the ‘buy low (well apart from BBD and SG), let go for nowt’ approach?

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  On 06/01/2023 at 22:58, JoeH said:

Difference between a loan player to add some quality from the Premier League, than a costly permanent addition from League One to directly replace our best player. IMO.

With transfers, as with many things in life, context is everything. No two players are the same and very rarely are players situations ever the same.

Whilst it is true that JCH is an ageing player, it's more meant in the context that Rovers have a fairly clear policy of signing permanent players with high ROI potential.

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What a stupid argument for not signing a goalscorer in his prime.

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  On 06/01/2023 at 20:14, Bohinen1983 said:

Fair point that. He misses some howlers, but he's still feeding off next to nothing. 

Cole was a goal machine, but he was infamous for needing a hatful of chances before he scored. If you stuck prime Cole in this team he'd look shite.  I think we have good strikers (for this division), good defenders and keeper. But a woeful midfield. Fix that in this window and we will get into the playoffs. If we don't it'll be a midtable finish imo.

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What we lack is any kind of service from out wide. Any width is provided by forwards who then can't get on the end of their own cross.  It's a daft system unless you have wing backs bombing up and hitting the byline. Ours don't.  We either need genuine wingers to play the wide roles or better wing backs.  Either way its where our issues lie.   

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  On 06/01/2023 at 22:30, Hasta said:

I believed that until he signed, but soon realised he was actually pretty clinical. And most of the chances he got was because he was in the right place at the right time. The ‘five chances to score a goal’ was a myth spouted by Hoddle to justify not picking him. You rarely put a ball in the box and thought ‘why is no one there with him in the team’.

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I was genuinely surprised how good Cole was.  His all round game was excellent.  That might have come with experience as he was approaching the twilight if his career but he was  a bloody good forward. 

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:30, damo100 said:

The same Bournemouth who regularly attract under 10k 

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Their achievements are even more astonishing then? Repeat---we get the same crowds (or better)---why can't we do it?

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:38, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

I was genuinely surprised how good Cole was.  His all round game was excellent.  That might have come with experience as he was approaching the twilight if his career but he was  a bloody good forward. 

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You don't play for Alex Ferguson for nearly 200 games if you're a mug.

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:45, 47er said:

Their achievements are even more astonishing then? Repeat---we get the same crowds (or better)---why can't we do it?

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:45, 47er said:

Their achievements are even more astonishing then? Repeat---we get the same crowds (or better)---why can't we do it?

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  On 06/01/2023 at 15:29, Exiled_Rover said:

Brighton nearly dropped out of the football league in 1997 and sold their ground. They were in League One in 2010. Now they're out of sight for us - we're literally begging for the scraps off their table this transfer window with JVH. Sadly they're a fantastically run club. 

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I was at the game when they had to get a result to stay up. It was the only year that the league had changed the rules from goal difference to goals scored to decide league positions. Hereford went down with a better goal difference.

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  On 07/01/2023 at 09:19, Ricky said:

I was at the game when they had to get a result to stay up. It was the only year that the league had changed the rules from goal difference to goals scored to decide league positions. Hereford went down with a better goal difference.

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It stank then and still does.

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:30, damo100 said:

The same Bournemouth who regularly attract under 10k 

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It's all about crowds and ticket income we keep being told, nothing to do with actual owners ambition.

Mind you they all live on Sandbanks and pay a 1000 quid per season ticket !

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  On 07/01/2023 at 00:38, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

I was genuinely surprised how good Cole was.  His all round game was excellent.  That might have come with experience as he was approaching the twilight if his career but he was  a bloody good forward. 

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He was top drawer and tailored his game as he got older and slowed down.  You could play off him almost as good as an Alan Shearer.

 

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I hope we get on with any transfers in good time, and not sit on our hands until the last hours. I'd get rid of Hurst, and maybe Morton if we have to play him every game he is fit. The latter depending if we can get a tough midfielder with drive and leadership qualities. 

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We've had some incredible strikers over the years. Going back 30 years, and yes some were past their prime but shearer, yorke Sutton, Cole, Fowler, Bellamy, dahlin, sukur, roque santa cruz, Mccarthy, Gallagher. Now we have players like hirst and Sam Gallagher 

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  On 07/01/2023 at 11:45, roverandout said:

We've had some incredible strikers over the years. Going back 30 years, and yes some were past their prime but shearer, yorke Sutton, Cole, Fowler, Bellamy, dahlin, sukur, roque santa cruz, Mccarthy, Gallagher. Now we have players like hirst and Sam Gallagher 

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Jansen was up there also.

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