January Transfer Window.

[Guest]

  On 08/01/2023 at 09:59, Theaxe15 said:

Jesus Christ, we’re a week into January. We’ve not even played a game since the first day of the window and won’t play a league one for another week. The obsession, and anger, fans have with transfer window activity is a bit much at times 

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Read what I wrote Mr Mokoena 😉 What was written is that it is the same old, very turgid and tired same old.

VENKYS OUT!

[Guest]

We are on course for finishing 12th. A supercomputer predicted that earlier this week. Nothing to see here. Move on. Nothing to see.

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by Shirley Crabtree Wrestler
fat, round, a hog that makes no sound. Groundhog day, groundhog day..

[Wheelton Blue]

For me, if the club choose to sell Brereton now, then the difference to our league position is finishing around 8th (with), or 10th (without).

I genuinely don't think that keeping him will make that much difference to where we end up this season.

Banking a few million for him gives us the opportunity in theory - yeah, yeah I know... - to get 2 or 3 players who could improve the team all round for next season.

[Theaxe15]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:11, Shirley Crabtree Wrestler said:

Read what I wrote Mr Mokoena 😉 What was written is that it is the same old, very turgid and tired same old.

VENKYS OUT!

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I wasn’t responding to you Mr Crabtree Wrestler 😉😉😉😉

[Guest]

First week of the window:
Everyone tries to do the business they've spent months teeing up. Almost every deal gets batted straight back because "it's only week one" and clubs/players/agents are weighing up options. Some deals which had been pre-agreed get done fairly quickly and some deals for complete random players who aren't under offer from more than one club get done too.

(you are here)

Second week of the window:
Bigger clubs start to get more deals done and more loan players become available. Domino affect starts and as more deals get done, other deals come into the forefront.

Third week of the window:
Agents/players who've been "patient" start to panic, they're getting offered around everywhere and here comes the rumour mill. "Blackburn, Sunderland and Cardiff linked with Player X" articles galore. Clubs re-asses whats available to them and start to do some things they didn't plan to back in November and December.

Final week of the window:
Clubs who've been "patient" start to panic. They go for players who are unproven, or they overpay for players who aren't all that. More rumours, more panic, more chaos.

Window closes.

Edited January 8, 2023 by JoeH

[Guest]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:51, JoeH said:

First week of the window:
Everyone tries to do the business they've spent months teeing up. Almost every deal gets batted straight back because "it's only week one" and clubs/players/agents are weighing up options. Some deals which had been pre-agreed get done fairly quickly and some deals for complete random players who aren't under offer from more than one club get done too.

Second week of the window:
Bigger clubs start to get more deals done and more loan players become available. Domino affect starts and as more deals get done, other deals come into the forefront.

Third week of the window:
Agents/players who've been "patient" start to panic, they're getting offered around everywhere and here comes the rumour mill. "Blackburn, Sunderland and Cardiff linked with Player X" articles galore. Clubs re-asses whats available to them and start to do some things they didn't plan to back in November and December.

Final week of the window:
Clubs who've been "patient" start to panic. They go for players who are unproven, or they overpay for players who aren't all that. More rumours, more panic, more chaos.

Window closes.

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We're about to enter week two. Sure it's frustrating that nothings happened but this is just the stage of the window we're at. Preston are loaning Tom Cannon? Fine, he fits into the category of unproven and if we'd gone for him I think people would've been really angry. Let the window take its course.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:54, JoeH said:

We're about to enter week two. Sure it's frustrating that nothings happened but this is just the stage of the window we're at. Preston are loaning Tom Cannon? Fine, he fits into the category of unproven and if we'd gone for him I think people would've been really angry. Let the window take its course.

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When you read that we’re going into a pretty important FA Cup game with Jack Vale leading the line it’s pretty obvious where we’re weakest. That’s been the case for months.

[Sweaty Gussets]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:58, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

When you read that we’re going into a pretty important FA Cup game with Jack Vale leading the line it’s pretty obvious where we’re weakest. That’s been the case for months.

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Sharpe has said that's where JDT wants to strengthen. 

[AllRoverAsia]

  On 08/01/2023 at 12:01, Sweaty Gussets said:

Sharpe has said that's where JDT wants to strengthen. 

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I just knew JDT reads BRFCS ...

[Polky]

I’m hoping we have a sell-on clause for Raya.

It’s was £3m fee, plus the promotion bonus (£1m/£2m) and a sell-on clause would be around £6m/£7m all together?

Hopefully JDT gets the cash to use in the summer for a new striker. 

[chaddyrovers]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:01, CambridgeRover said:

Yes I would have personally sold for anything 7mill plus. I dont rate Brereton as a premier league striker. Although this would have depended on Venkys actually reinvesting the money.

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I wouldn't sold for less than 15 million and I think that fair price for HIM

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:54, JoeH said:

We're about to enter week two. Sure it's frustrating that nothings happened but this is just the stage of the window we're at. Preston are loaning Tom Cannon? Fine, he fits into the category of unproven and if we'd gone for him I think people would've been really angry. Let the window take its course.

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Firstly Joe, great summary on the transfer window. 

I agree with you Cannon summary

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:58, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

When you read that we’re going into a pretty important FA Cup game with Jack Vale leading the line it’s pretty obvious where we’re weakest. That’s been the case for months.

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is the FA cup game a pretty important? 

I am happy Vale will start today

[RoversClitheroe]

  On 08/01/2023 at 12:37, BRFC_Polky said:

I’m hoping we have a sell-on clause for Raya.

It’s was £3m fee, plus the promotion bonus (£1m/£2m) and a sell-on clause would be around £6m/£7m all together?

Hopefully JDT gets the cash to use in the summer for a new striker. 

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Mental that Mowbray sold him 😂.

So many of us thought it was absolutely woeful business, others thought he was shit.

Since selling he's played for Spain and linked with top clubs.

[Ossydave]

Vale's had a bit of time out now much like JRC, hopefully the same end result and a much improved player... 

We play in a specific (some would say boring) way. So much so that it's difficult for a striker to just trap up for the odd game and play well. IF Ben was to leave I reckon someone else would step up to the job in hand. When Armstrong left we panicked but ended up ok.

[Admiral Nelsen]

  On 08/01/2023 at 12:37, BRFC_Polky said:

I’m hoping we have a sell-on clause for Raya.

It’s was £3m fee, plus the promotion bonus (£1m/£2m) and a sell-on clause would be around £6m/£7m all together?

Hopefully JDT gets the cash to use in the summer for a new striker. 

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I'm fairly sure we do have a pretty decent sell on, actually. I forget how much exactly, but not a trivial %. 

Even with a year left on his contract I can't see him going for less than £20 million in the mad world which is modern football, so I'd say we'd be in line for a couple of million most likely.

[Colt Seavers]

  On 08/01/2023 at 11:39, Theaxe15 said:

I wasn’t responding to you Mr Crabtree Wrestler 😉😉😉😉

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I'm glad you didn't call him Shirley 😁

[BigBar]

  On 08/01/2023 at 12:47, RoversClitheroe said:

Mental that Mowbray sold him 😂.

So many of us thought it was absolutely woeful business, others thought he was shit.

Since selling he's played for Spain and linked with top clubs.

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Those people weather they like to admit it or not were wrong...very very wrong.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 08/01/2023 at 12:38, chaddyrovers said:

I wouldn't sold for less than 15 million and I think that fair price for HIM

Firstly Joe, great summary on the transfer window. 

I agree with you Cannon summary

is the FA cup game a pretty important? 

I am happy Vale will start today

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Every game is important. A banging today and we’re back to square one confidence wise.

[Admiral Nelsen]

  On 08/01/2023 at 13:07, BigBar said:

Those people weather they like to admit it or not were wrong...very very wrong.

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Definitely - but it was a fair criticism that as a team, we were letting in far too many soft goals from crosses. You couldn't put all of that at Raya's door, obviously, but it was definitely an aspect of the game that he needed to work on. 

 

We didn't get enough money for him though, and replacing him with Walton for a season was a poor bit of business. 

[bluebruce]

  On 08/01/2023 at 09:02, J*B said:

Glad to see someone of a similar mindset. 

If we don’t sell BBD this month we have gambled:

1) We will be in the top four sides excluding Burnley and Sheffield United 

2) We will beat two of the other four sides (the first over two legs) 

3) Doing 1 & 2 will be enough to encourage him to stay 

If we don’t achieve points 1 (and 2) we will be faced with the prospect of replacing one of the best players in the league with whatever budget we can put together. 

Let’s not forget Ben can choose to sign for a foreign team today for nothing, albeit he wouldn’t move until summer. 

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I don't care that much if 3 happens, if 1 & 2 do. But they won't of course. I'd sell for about 10-12 million at this stage. And then I'd spend the rest of the season wondering what would have happened if he stayed.

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 08/01/2023 at 13:18, Admiral Nelsen said:

 

Definitely - but it was a fair criticism that as a team, we were letting in far too many soft goals from crosses. You couldn't put all of that at Raya's door, obviously, but it was definitely an aspect of the game that he needed to work on. 

 

We didn't get enough money for him though, and replacing him with Walton for a season was a poor bit of business. 

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I still think Kaminski is a better all-round GK.

[Admiral Nelsen]

  On 08/01/2023 at 16:06, Exiled_Rover said:

I still think Kaminski is a better all-round GK.

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I was going to post something similar, to be honest. Partially because I rate TK very highly, partly because I still think Raya (for all of his quality) has an error in him.

[RevidgeBlue]

Not this again, Kaminsky's decent, probably looks better than he actually is by virtue of coming in immediately after the calamitous Walton but he's nowhere near being in Raya's class imo. Anyhow I believe we do have a surprisingly large sell on clause in our favour as regards Raya so I hope he secures a massive move to one of the "big" Clubs ASAP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RevidgeBlue]

Sorry the site is playing up again for me like it did a while ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bohinen1983]

Sorry lads, Raya is destined to be Spains no1 , is playing in the Premiership and being linked to Top clubs. You need to remove your Blue and White tinted glasses. He's absolutely class.  Mowbray shafted us, sold one of the best young keepers in the World and brought in whatever his name was.  I remember watching a Youtube video of a former Rovers youth coach being interviewed. He said he was stunned we'd shipped him and for so little for him as it was obvious he had massive potential and was destined for great things...  Kaminski is a good keeper, but I don't think he's in the Raya bracket- he'd have been snapped up by now wouldn't he!? This isn't an attack on Kaminski, I really like him, but saying he's better than Raya just comes across as proper bias.

[roversfan99]

  On 08/01/2023 at 16:35, RevidgeBlue said:

Not this again, Kaminsky's decent, probably looks better than he actually is by virtue of coming in immediately after the calamitous Walton but he's nowhere near being in Raya's class imo. Anyhow I believe we do have a surprisingly large sell on clause in our favour as regards Raya so I hope he secures a massive move to one of the "big" Clubs ASAP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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How can he look better than he actually is? Walton has been gone for ages and Kaminski has been superb this season.