January Transfer Window.

[rigger]

47 minutes ago, JoeH said:

4-2-3-1:
Goals Scored Per Game: 1.16
Goals Conceded Per Game: 0.95
W/D/L: 8 - 1 - 8

5-3-2 / 3-4-3 / 4-3-1-2:
Goals Scored Per Game: 0.50
Goals Conceded Per Game: 1.38
W/D/L: 2 - 0 - 6

22/23, All Competitions. Other formations not represented as only used a small amount of times.

I don't care what statistics you come up with. Playing three central midfielders is the way to win midfield battles

[rigger]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Not really cos Dack has been dropping deep into the centre midfield to make sure we aren't getting outnumbered in there. Done well in doing it. 

How many games has Dack played ?

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

How many games has Dack played ?

17 games. totally of 732 minutes. 

[rigger]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

17 games. totally of 732 minutes. 

 

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

17 games. totally of 732 minutes. 

And of those 732 minutes I doubt if Dack has been back helping out midfield for more than 10% of them.

[roverandout]

4 hours ago, davulsukur said:

If it's a loan with the view of loaning out Wharton and/or Garrett, then fair enough. 

If not, pointless.

Wharton is far too good to be loaned out

[Blue blood]

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The past is the past. Can't changed it. 

The point is the past is also the present. As it has been for the last 12 years...  

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How have the owners under invest in this team when we have pushed the FFP boundaries most seasons? 

You are right it's not all on them, the Stooges they've appointed are culpable too. (not selling players and getting money for them Vs going on frees for example.) As for the owners we seem slow on getting round FFP compared with other clubs, for example, then there's the no money given to replace Armstrong, not to mention last January. 

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said, People need to calm down and judge the window and signings after it closes. I would rather bring in the right signings and I hopefully we will but we need overreacting cos we don't know what is actually going on behind the scenes and I am pleased nothing is leaking much either. 

You can't have not knowing as an argument for you and against my point. It cuts both ways. Also no one ever said get the wrong signings. And what's your hope based on? The evidence shows them screwing up time after time. I may as well hope to play for Rovers at nearly 40 if evidence isn't a criteria. 

 

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Hyam and Morton have improved the team, Brittain is a good signing despite the injuries and Szmodics has an impact games and scored goals and impacts some games. 

Hirst was a disappointed on his limited game time. Mola similar. 

Thats some PR and a half! A disappointment? Think disaster or poor would be a better way of putting it. They have both been terrible. 

Also Morton has nowhere near the impact Hyam does on the team. Not same category of signing. It's also worth pointing out are we really happy with a guy who's getting towards missing half our games? And as for Szmodics he's had as many good games as bad. Not sure he's the best value for money. Personally I think he will come good but at present it's hard to qualify him as a raging success. Especially given what we paid and our budget. 

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Given all the any signings signed by Championship clubs which players do you think we should have signed?

That's not my job. I'm not a scout and in the know who is available and the like. What I think we should sign is a striker and hard man midfielder at the very least.

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

@JoeHgave a very good view of the January transfer window and how it works. He is right. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

33 minutes ago, rigger said:

 

And of those 732 minutes I doubt if Dack has been back helping out midfield for more than 10% of them.

I was talking recent games. You could see against the recent league games. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, rigger said:

I don't care what statistics you come up with. Playing three central midfielders is the way to win midfield battles

Yet when we play two men in midfield we win 25% more of our games

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

The point is the past is also the present. As it has been for the last 12 years...  

Its not cos this is new footballing management structure and appointments made 7/8 months ago 

3 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

You are right it's not all on them, the Stooges they've appointed are culpable too. (not selling players and getting money for them Vs going on frees for example.) As for the owners we seem slow on getting round FFP compared with other clubs, for example, then there's the no money given to replace Armstrong, not to mention last January. 

We talk about FFP time after time on here. So I not going to talk deeply about it now. Its been done to death on here. 

This Director of football, head coach, head of recruitment and recruitment haven't screwed up time after time so that is just plain wrong. You are going back to the past instead of looking at the footballing staff at the club who are at the first season at the club. Time to judge isn't now but after the window closes. We had all this during the summer when people after people were panicking about lack of signings. Allow them to bring in the signings this window. 

3 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

Thats some PR and a half! A disappointment? Think disaster or poor would be a better way of putting it. They have both been terrible. 

Also Morton has nowhere near the impact Hyam does on the team. Not same category of signing. It's also worth pointing out are we really happy with a guy who's getting towards missing half our games? And as for Szmodics he's had as many good games as bad. Not sure he's the best value for money. Personally I think he will come good but at present it's hard to qualify him as a raging success. Especially given what we paid and our budget. 

I have posted alot about my opinion Morton and he is improved the team this season. Hyam has been our best signing. 

3 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

That's not my job. I'm not a scout and in the know who is available and the like. What I think we should sign is a striker and hard man midfielder at the very least.

 

I'm asking you look at players who have signed for clubs in championship and within the January transfer window? Very few. maybe a couple like Jamal Lowe who signed for QPR. 

I have said we need a striker, back up full back and creatively attacking midfielder. Centre midfield we are fine for me 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, JoeH said:

4-2-3-1:
Goals Scored Per Game: 1.16
Goals Conceded Per Game: 0.95
W/D/L: 8 - 1 - 8

5-3-2 / 3-4-3 / 4-3-1-2:
Goals Scored Per Game: 0.50
Goals Conceded Per Game: 1.38
W/D/L: 2 - 0 - 6

22/23, All Competitions. Other formations not represented as only used a small amount of times.

Where did the draw come from?

[Silas]

3 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Where did the draw come from?

Penalty shoot out game v WH I think. 

[roversfan99]

FFP mentioned again, something we have lost any flexibility with due to the overruling of the owners to allow assets to run their deals down.

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, Swanson said:

Didn't he also say that Joe Rothwell to Bournemouth for 3 mill was a done deal last january?

Tbf it sounds like it was until Venkys needed to sign it off.

[Paul Mani]

6 hours ago, rigger said:

 

And of those 732 minutes I doubt if Dack has been back helping out midfield for more than 10% of them.

If you’re watching the games, you’ll see that out of possession, Dack is deeper and helping the midfield by closing spaces down etc.

So the two becomes a three in midfield, out of possession, which makes you both right!?

[neophox]

Kilkenny is a no go....just rumours....can he even play for another club than Stoke or Bournemouth, like Ellis Simms.

[Mashed Potatoes]

8 hours ago, roverandout said:

Wharton is far too good to be loaned out

Players like Beckham and Kane were loaned out early in their career so that is not correct.

[Mattyblue]

Of course top players go on loan, but your examples were at a club at a much higher level, so not really a fair comparison.

Is roverandout’s point not that he’s as good as any other player we already have at this second tier level? So should be in our team, not some L1/L2 team.

Of course that’s debatable, and he may benefit from a loan, because if he should be playing or not, he currently isn’t, but it wasn’t particularly debatable that Kane wasn’t ready for a team chasing the CL as a teenager so needed loaning out.

[Mashed Potatoes]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Of course top players go on loan, but your examples were at a club at a much higher level, so not really a fair comparison.

Is roverandout’s point not that he’s as good as any other player we already have at this second tier level? So should be in our team, not some L1/L2 team.

Of course that’s debatable, and he may benefit from a loan, because if he should be playing or not, he currently isn’t, but it wasn’t particularly debatable that Kane wasn’t ready for a team chasing the CL as a teenager so needed loaning out.

Point taken although I would point out Kane was still out on loan up to a couple of months before his 21st birthday.

[Butty]

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Kilkenny is a no go....just rumours....can he even play for another club than Stoke or Bournemouth, like Ellis Simms.

He can because he hasn’t played for Bournemouth this season.

[Tugayisgod]

Daily Express this morning so don't believe there will be anything in it personally.

 

[TheRevAshton]

3 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Daily Express this morning so don't believe there will be anything in it personally.

 

Yeah probably absolute tripe... but wow, i'd certainly be on board if that turned out to be true.

[Mike E]

10 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Daily Express this morning so don't believe there will be anything in it personally.

 

On loan? Surely a transfer swap would suit all parties?

[Sparks Rover]

43 minutes ago, Butty said:

He can because he hasn’t played for Bournemouth this season.

He's hardly played for Stoke either, what's the point?  Can't get in a championship team near the bottom, how's he getting into our team..🤷‍♂️

[BankEnd Rover]

31 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Daily Express this morning so don't believe there will be anything in it personally.

 

Would be happy with that if the money for Diaz was right.

[Exiled_Rover]

21 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

He's hardly played for Stoke either, what's the point?  Can't get in a championship team near the bottom, how's he getting into our team..🤷‍♂️

He torn his MCL, he's been injured for most of the loan at Stoke.