v The Dingles (a) - 13/11/2022

[booth]

15 minutes ago, Gav said:

Having been around here longer than most, one of them said some pretty disgusting things about the death of Jack Walker when he first arrived on the site.

Buying him a drink? No ney never.

Just for a bit of balance.

Which one?

[des]

I for one like a team to play out from the back but you need a strong midfield who will run off the ball and are not afraid to ask for the ball. Man city do it but there have a midfield who is strong work hard and can control the ball when they have it.

To get a team like that takes time but if it does not work then option B is to by pass the midfield and play the long ball/pass good teams can bo both, we have to learn to do both well. 

It's easy to go overboard when we win or lose but some where in the middle is about where we are not as good if we win but not as bad if we lose

[Sparks Rover]

31 minutes ago, Rover_in_the_South said:

He doesn't bring much to the table does he,  usual obligatory moment of stupidity. 

Very little proper grit in there today! 

His overall demeanour to me is a bit fairy-like.  Need a tough big bastard in there to pull the young lads along.  

Lowe Mark 2 but with less bite

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

His overall demeanour to me is a bit fairy-like.  Need a tough big bastard in there to pull the young lads along.  

Lowe Mark 2 but with less bite

Less bite than Lowe ? Jeez, is that possible.

[Miller11]

Says a lot that Travis is our captain. Big questions over his maturity. His petulance is often mistaken for passion. Never got why some of our fans celebrate his “shithousery” while crying when other teams do it.

Unpopular opinion: Lenihan wouldn’t have let Barnes get away with his antics and 2 goals today.

[Oldgregg86]

Listened to radio lancs on the drive back and JDT said he was happy with how we defended but we where poor out of possession. 
WOW just WOW

we never had the ball for a feckin start

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Miller11 said:

We helped set the tone with Barnes from about the 5th minute. Kaminski going down holding his face after Barnes touched his chest was the start. He was rolling around pretending to be hurt instead of getting aggressive back. The ref, who won’t believe his luck at how few incidents there were, was never going to be fooled by that.

We were completely passive and let Barnes take liberties all game. He flew through one of our midfielders (forget who), which admittedly should’ve been a yellow all day long, but it’d have been really easy to make him regret doing that challenge.

Closest we got to dishing anything out was Ayala while defending a corner and Travis’s unintelligent and pointless booking. We were pathetic in all honesty. Bring Souness and Flitcroft in on a consultancy basis for a week before we play them again, see if they can find anyone with a pair of bollocks in our changing room.

Once he bottled the big one - the straight red and penalty - I knew were were in for one of those refereeing performances. 

[Miller11]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Once he bottled the big one - the straight red and penalty - I knew were were in for one of those refereeing performances. 

At the time I didn’t think it was a pen, but to be honest that was largely due to the fact none of our players seemed to appeal for it - Couldn't even be arsed doing that. On reflection having seen the replays it certainly could’ve been given. To be clear though, today is not on the ref.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Miller11

[booth]

5 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Says a lot that Travis is our captain. Big questions over his maturity. His petulance is often mistaken for passion. Never got why some of our fans celebrate his “shithousery” while crying when other teams do it.

Unpopular opinion: Lenihan wouldn’t have let Barnes get away with his antics and 2 goals today.

Scott Wharton wouldn't.

[Miller11]

1 minute ago, booth said:

Scott Wharton wouldn't.

Very true.

[DarthPaul]

On Travis, tries to be the pantomime villain but comes across more pantomime dame

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

At the time I didn’t think it was a pen, but to be honest that was largely due to the fact none of our players seemed to appeal for it - Couldn't even be arsed doing that. On reflection having seen the replays it certainly could’ve been given. To be clear though, today is not on the ref.

Down to 10 men and 1-0 down certainly changes that game. He's bottled it because he's a coward.

I never want to see a Premier League ref again in this league, they've got too used to VAR bailing them out. 

[Miller11]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Down to 10 men and 1-0 down certainly changes that game. He's bottled it because he's a coward.

I never want to see a Premier League ref again in this league, they've got too used to VAR bailing them out. 

It might have been a penalty, but it was never a red card.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

It might have been a penalty, but it was never a red card.

Last man and no genuine attempt to play the ball? It's what Cancelo got sent off for a few weeks ago - carbon copy. 

[Mercer]

It isn't rocket science, our midfield is sh1t.

I've been posting since the season started that we need a hard ugly b@st@rd in there who can also play a bit.

We have no aggression.  Barnes bullied us.  A Batty, Reid, Flitcroft, Sherwood, Andy Todd etc would not have allowed it to happen. 

Garrett isn't ready and was like a frightened rabbit caught in the headlights.  Morton was found sadly wanting when it mattered the most - totally anonymous.  Travis offers nothing at all - a 'hard man' only in his own fantasy mind.  As for Buckley, you really wouldn't want him in the trenches with you.  I think Adam Wharton is the most talented midfielder we have and it is absolutely criminal that he and his brother Scott did not start today.

I bet Burnley couldn't believe how easy it was today.  I have rarely witnessed a more gutless, spineless display from a Rovers' team in 60 years or so of derby matches.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Mercer

[BankEnd Rover]

16 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Listened to radio lancs on the drive back and JDT said he was happy with how we defended but we where poor out of possession. 
WOW just WOW

we never had the ball for a feckin start

He’s right with the defending bit though (obviously until they scored). We contained them well in the first half…That was obviously our game plan to them hit them on the counter…which we did extremely poorly. 

 

[Andy]

I'm still trying to figure out why the Whartons didn't play - Scott in particular.

You have to say that it's highly likely that he (in place of Mola) stops at least two of their goals.

[superniko]

2 hours ago, superniko said:

Not much in the dugout?

Just to emphasise how I’m against the “Dack has shown he’s not got it anymore” mob.

He’s only started 1 league match since Blackpool…1! (and he was hooked at HT). Played a total 112 league minutes between Blackpool and today, that’s across 13 games - less than 10 mins a match). 
I’m actually more embarrassed for our fans who have bought into this narrative that he’s no good (is he worse than Garrett / Travis / Morton / Buckley?) because they buy every word JDT says

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

I'm still trying to figure out why the Whartons didn't play - Scott in particular.

You have to say that it's highly likely that he (in place of Mola) stops at least two of their goals.

Agreed, usually it’s an excuse to say to rest them due to up & coming games…We’ve now got a months rest so it makes zero sense. I’d of started Both today. 
 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I thought we had a “ practice defending “ game in the second half last week. It was like we were rehearsing for todays game. We got away with it last weekend because Huddersfield were blunt up front. Today we weren’t so lucky.

[matt83]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Agreed, usually it’s an excuse to say to rest them due to up & coming games…We’ve now got a months rest so it makes zero sense. I’d of started Both today. 
 

 

Much like his predecessor I suspect the manager got himself all in a tactical tangle. A half baked theory here, a random experiment there which lead to him not being able to see the wood for the trees. 

[LDRover]

1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

Our captain today Travis...he's a wet lettuce, beaten before we started.

I get sick of hearing about this supposed hardman reputation he has. He's soft as shite, shit on the ball and as thick as a whale omelette. All his bookings are for stupidity not marking an opponent's card. We need better in there, he's starting to remind me of J-Lo.

[ben_the_beast]

15 minutes ago, Andy said:

I'm still trying to figure out why the Whartons didn't play - Scott in particular.

You have to say that it's highly likely that he (in place of Mola) stops at least two of their goals.

To hear JDT talking about the pace of Mola being a reason he started is maddening. We were so deep there was no space for anyone to run into.

[LDRover]

And yes I know he was on a hiding to nothing but Buckley did his usual disappearing act when called upon today. The lad is reversing at a rate of knots.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

17 minutes ago, LDRover said:

I get sick of hearing about this supposed hardman reputation he has. He's soft as shite, shit on the ball and as thick as a whale omelette. All his bookings are for stupidity not marking an opponent's card. We need better in there, he's starting to remind me of J-Lo.

I agree about the bookings, all for childish acts. Not one for really putting somebody in their place.