v Sunderland (a) - 26/12/22

[West Yorks Rover]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

id`e break the rules and take the consequence if thats true,not sure id`e have him for free tbh

Not sure you'd have him for free ?

I'd pay to get rid, along with a few others, starting with the manager.

[harryhealless1928]

An obligation to buy Hirst IMHO is a sacking offence, period. 

Just remember Chris Brown did at least come on a free.

[Bohinen1983]

Weak, languid, backward passing midfielders. I don't know who they think they are but the lack off effort and urgency is shocking.  Buckley, Morton and Wharton would be nowhere my first team. 

[rigger]

If JDT thinks that Hirst  is worth a first- team squad place, that is his perogative. I will not be wasting any more money on the Rovers until we start picking players on merit.

[Mashed Potatoes]

7 minutes ago, harryhealless1928 said:

An obligation to buy Hirst IMHO is a sacking offence, period. 

Just remember Chris Brown did at least come on a free.

Good thing it's an option to buy, then.

[Mashed Potatoes]

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

If JDT thinks that Hirst  is worth a first- team squad place, that is his perogative. I will not be wasting any more money on the Rovers until we start picking players on merit.

What makes you think players aren't picked on merit ?

[Bohinen1983]

I'd hate to be a striker with the midfield we have. It's appalling.  70% of our strikers game is chasing and pressing defenders. We rarely cross it  or knock decent balls over the top or in the channels.   Even if you do win something, you play it back to Buckley who dillies and dallies then plays it backwards.  Worst set of CM's I've seen at the club.  

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

What makes you think players aren't picked on merit ?

the words hirst and first team should be a clue😉

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

the words hirst and first team should be a clue😉

I don't think I was asking you.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I don't think I was asking you.

🐱meow

[rigger]

6 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

What makes you think players aren't picked on merit ?

 

7 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

What makes you think players aren't picked on merit ?

Because I have seen Hirst and Markanday play, neither deserve to be anywhere near the first team.

[neophox]

Think Morton is ok. We need new midfielders in January..

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, rigger said:

 

Because I have seen Hirst and Markanday play, neither deserve to be anywhere near the first team.

Agreed. Unfortunately we don't have anyone else.

I don't think Gallagher deserves to start either, but he's all we've bloody got.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Exiled_Rover

[Wheelton Blue]

14 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I'd hate to be a striker with the midfield we have. It's appalling.  70% of our strikers game is chasing and pressing defenders. We rarely cross it  or knock decent balls over the top or in the channels.   Even if you do win something, you play it back to Buckley who dillies and dallies then plays it backwards.  Worst set of CM's I've seen at the club.  

This is the crux of it to me. We don't give the forwards anything to work with.

[RevidgeBlue]

17 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

What makes you think players aren't picked on merit ?

Markanday?

[Mashed Potatoes]

8 minutes ago, rigger said:

 

Because I have seen Hirst and Markanday play, neither deserve to be anywhere near the first team.

JDT's record as a striker speaks for itself, so I would trust his judgement regarding strikers over any poster on here. But who would you pick over Hirst and Markanday ?

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Markanday?

I've answered this question above.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Agreed. Unfortunately we don't have anyone else.

I don't think Gallagher deserves to start either, but he's all we've bloody got.

Vale and Burns are better than Hirst or Markanday, in my opinion. Gallagher might be better in a diferrent system.

[Giant]

Here’s a frightening prospect for everyone; TM takes Sunderland up, via the play-offs. They’re one point outside the top 6 at present.

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

JDT's record as a striker speaks for itself, so I would trust his judgement regarding strikers over any poster on here. But who would you pick over Hirst and Markanday ?

Vale and Burns.

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, Miller11 said:

I can’t recall Mowbray ever throwing a centre back up top, unfortunately. Better managers have done it frequently though.

Dalglish utilised Hendry up front to good effect many times. Allardyce recognised it was more useful putting Samba up top than Maceo Rigters. And Hirst makes Rigters look like Haaland.

Mowbray did it last season against Luton away when he put Ayala up front for the last few minutes

[had.e.nuff]

It is starting to get worrying with the lack of effort and a coherent plan of how we are going to play ,this is one of the worst teams i have seen in a rovers shirt, it is diabolical to watch and I am starting to miss game and it is not bothering me I can see crowds tumbling if they keep playing like this they are not even attractive to watch when they win.

[nathan_rovers1]

37 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

Weak, languid, backward passing midfielders. I don't know who they think they are but the lack off effort and urgency is shocking.  Buckley, Morton and Wharton would be nowhere my first team. 

Don’t know what you’re watching every week 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray did it last season against Luton away when he put Ayala up front for the last few minutes

I remember it. Ayala looked like he was playing in quick sand. It was embarrassing. Totally ineffective. Centre halves are only any use up front when you can keep launching the ball onto their heads. Expecting them to play like a normal striker is foolish. Unless they are players as good as Sutton or Warhurst.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, had.e.nuff said:

It is starting to get worrying with the lack of effort and a coherent plan of how we are going to play ,this is one of the worst teams i have seen in a rovers shirt, it is diabolical to watch and I am starting to miss game and it is not bothering me I can see crowds tumbling if they keep playing like this they are not even attractive to watch when they win.

You’ve got to think they are not playing for the manager. We are individually better than this.