booth Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, Hasta said: A number of times in that first half we had the ball out wide running at their full back. Gallagher and Pickering did it. JRC and Dack had the full back isolated. We got into good positions but failed to capitalise. That’s what happens when you play strikers in ‘wide’ roles. Brereton can carry the ball so carries far more of a threat in those positions. Having lost Brereton, we knew we had little threat going forward. And yet we played Gallagher out wide instead of Markanday who has looked lively for weeks. When it wasn’t working, we came out again and carried on. So what we could have done is actually start Dolan or Markanday in a position that suits instead of playing Gallagher somewhere he has consistently been ineffective. It looked wrong at kick off. It was proved wrong in the first half but it wasn’t changed until game over. Markanday showed in the second half what might have been when they were exposed in that first half. Stubborn. Stupid. I'd have started Dolan but I still don't think it would have mattered. The only positions that looked strong on the teamsheet were Ayala and Hyam. Apart from that it looked like a shambles of a team and the bench options don't offer much in the way of changes. Fullbacks... oof. Midfield... oof oof. Forwards... Pass me the valium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigbrandjohn Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The only way to stop the “Mowbray death spiral” rebranded the “JDT tumble” is to buy/ loan three rock solid proven players in defence, midfield, and attack. Games like these need ugly. Every pass backwards is 20 seconds less opportunity to score a goal. We need a few bruisers to push forward and to eek out draws and wins in an ugly way. I am also in a minority here I know I love Dack and on his day he is capable of magic but relying him to be the talisman these days is not a real option. We need real balance. Dack had an intuitive partnership with Danny Graham which yielded plenty of goals. We don't play Brereton or Gallagher as target men. We should, against teams like Rotherham 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The club is not set up to compete across a full season. The emphasis is not on what we need, it is about "not blocking pathways." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superniko Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 It feels very “Cocu at Derby” Started well, a vision of ‘total football’ based on possession. That ended with a 10th place finish then bottom of the league a year later. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroblue Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 If the manager has anything resembling ambition he needs to be in broughtons office Monday morning and demand quality signings or resign. We carry no threat and Gallagher first touch , heading and ability to hold up the ball is poor. We desperately need a big guy up top to disrupt defences and a senior midfield player to dictate play and get the tackles in whether this blocks development or not. We are to small to young and lack genuine pace. There’s no drive and desire it’s almost as if the object of the game is to keep the ball not win. It is amongst the worst football I’ve seen at Rovers what happened to the cavalry charge when we need goals to get back in games. It is utter dross 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, roversfan99 said: The club is not set up to compete across a full season. The emphasis is not on what we need, it is about "not blocking pathways." But if that was true then ehy keep playing on loan bottlers like morton ahead of travis and wharton or ayala that will be gone at the end of the season in place of other wharton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) In the interests of fairness and balance, it should be pointed out that he has branded the performance 'embarassing': https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/23251111.embarrassing---tomassons-verdict-blackburn-rovers-defeat/ Also I think I should say, there was another time they showed him in the dugout, when it was at least 2-0, where he didn't look happy at all. We have no idea what he was laughing at, but the media love to show little selected snippets to make controversy. Again though, I do agree it's a bad look and he should be more conscious of it when the cameras are on. If you'd put the camera on me today I had a face of thunder throughout the second half just watching at home, but there have been times at games where we are losing, and I'm angry, but somebody says something amusing and I chuckle for a moment. Edited January 14, 2023 by bluebruce Said bad luck when I meant bad look 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPT KAYOS Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, booth said: Brereton being out is a big miss as apart from his goals he is a handful for the opposition, even just running at them. It means they can't commit as much. Rotherham must have figured out pretty quickly our front two didn't have any chance of scoring but with Brereton there's always the chance of a worldie. But it's not just Brereton, we're missing other players and we should have signed a few by now. At the moment it's Mowbray's team with the addition of Morton and Hyam, but minus Lenihan, Nyambe and Johnson. I don't expect anything from forwards like Gallagher and Vale, along with a midfield with two young lads, a makeshift fullback and a fullback that's not good enough. So results like today aren't a surprise to me. It's more of a surprise when we win. agree to sone extent but we aint been seeing the brereton diaz of late only brereton and questionable if at all this season since the cheshire cat rocked in ..note he has also been in the other atrocities this srason has he not so it sort of moots your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SBlue Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 Need a striker and a signing like the old Lewis Travis. Talk of JDT out is so laughably premature as to be embarrassing. Just the turmoil we need when we’re relatively stable in the league with a squad punching above their weight isn’t it? Those calling for his head - who have you got your eye on to do better with this squad and why? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said: The only way to stop the “Mowbray death spiral” rebranded the “JDT tumble” is to buy/ loan three rock solid proven players in defence, midfield, and attack. Games like these need ugly. Every pass backwards is 20 seconds less opportunity to score a goal. We need a few bruisers to push forward and to eek out draws and wins in an ugly way. I am also in a minority here I know I love Dack and on his day he is capable of magic but relying him to be the talisman these days is not a real option. We need real balance. Dack had an intuitive partnership with Danny Graham which yielded plenty of goals. We don't play Brereton or Gallagher as target men. We should, against teams like Rotherham Dack is only as good as the players in front of him. Stick a player like Pukki or Toney in front of him and they'd score a bucket load. Not sure about Gallagher as a target man as today he was just giving up before he'd even lost the ball, but I don't know why we don't play BBD up front when we need to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweaty Gussets Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I had a face of thunder throughout the second half just watching at home, but there have been times at games where we are losing, and I'm angry, but somebody says something amusing and I chuckle for a moment. You're not the manager though. You can't be seen laughing on the bench at 2-0 down looking like you haven't got a care in the world. It looks like him and Remy don't give a shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 What's worse when we're getting hammered - the Tomasson smirk or the Mowbray grimace? Neither of them knows what they're doing but at least Tony showed the pain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, CAPT KAYOS said: agree to sone extent but we aint been seeing the brereton diaz of late only brereton and questionable if at all this season since the cheshire cat rocked in ..note he has also been in the other atrocities this srason has he not so it sort of moots your point The atrocities have also coincided with my other point that we overall, have a lacklustre bunch of players. So not really. If you think we're just as bad with Brereton then your cup is emptier than mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Preston losing at home 0-2 There is still hope of some pleasure today. Edited January 14, 2023 by AllRoverAsia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, booth said: Fullbacks... oof. Midfield... oof oof. Funnily enough, I think we could do with a bit more hoof. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, K-Hod said: So, there’s this thing called paternity leave. You may have heard of it? It's not mandatory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweaty Gussets Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Luton winning, we're no longer 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: Preston losing at home 0-2 There is still hope of some pleasure today. 3-0 now. Burnley struggling against Cov at the moment. Watch them nick a goal. Edited January 14, 2023 by booth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, booth said: 3-0 now. Big big smile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesus Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 As somebody said before losing is part of football, it is actually something we are very used to, but I'm getting absolutely cheesed off at the amount of no shows. We cannot keep having performances like this, Preston which are humiliations. Also let's not forget the Cardiff away, Coventry away were we offered absolutely nothing and seemed clueless. I don't follow any other teams closely but I simply cannot believe that teams can be as bad as us when they have off days! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, cesus said: As somebody said before losing is part of football, it is actually something we are very used to, but I'm getting absolutely cheesed off at the amount of no shows. We cannot keep having performances like this, Preston which are humiliations. Also let's not forget the Cardiff away, Coventry away were we offered absolutely nothing and seemed clueless. I don't follow any other teams closely but I simply cannot believe that teams can be as bad as us when they have off days! Check out Preston and WBA 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBlue Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: It's not mandatory Only real men abandon their family for work reasons innit 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Mowbray and JDT obviously both knew what they were doing to have such average squads as high as they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankEnd Rover Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 To make this result even more bearable - Nobbers loosing 3-0 at home in 30 mins to a side we’ve beat twice. The Championship is mental! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPT KAYOS Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, booth said: The atrocities have also coincided with my other point that we overall, have a lacklustre bunch of players. So not really. If you think we're just as bad with Brereton then your cup is emptier than mine. I think it probably is, however lacklustre is down to the manger to sort is it not ..something that he doesn't appear to be capable of changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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