RoverDom Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Mercer said: How many transfers do the EFL handle over the course of a season - I'm guessing at 750+ True - but the flip side of that is that even if their processes are 99.9% accurate then they've messed up atleast a small handful of transfers over the years and yet an appeal has never won. I've never seen a process that is 100% flawless, maybe they do exist but I doubt its within football governance. It's the hope that kills you isn't it🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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islander200 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, lraC said: That’s exactly what I am getting at. We should already have him in our ranks and therefore perhaps have an even better chance in those games. It’s looking highly likely that we won’t have him in for either of them. After that, will he be ready to hit the ground running, having sat out weeks of football? By the time this is sorted and he is match fit, we are more likely to be adrift of the play off places and therefore be picking up his big salary, to finish mid table. What’s the point in that? The next 3 league games are all winnable without O'Brien and he would be cup tied anyway for the Leicester game. We are struggling to score granted and a joke no striker was brought in but the same set of players managed to win 14 games the first half of the season and we are still proving hard to beat backed up by the fact we have only lost once in 2023. For me , the O'Brien transfer only becomes pointless if we are actually adrift and personally don't feel that will be the case after the next 3 league game and then another week until our next match.A decision has to be made at some point surely it can't drag into March 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) Steve ugly bastard Cook was very quick to put the boot in us over the O'brian fiasco but now he thinks the rules should be ignored for him so he can add a few more names to his squad list! Fk me all the signings theyve made you'd think they'd have 3 or 4 players for every single position already! Weird one he is! That clubs heading for major early 2000s Leeds style collapse at this rate. Edited February 18, 2023 by Armchair supporter supremo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, islander200 said: The next 3 league games are all winnable without O'Brien and he would be cup tied anyway for the Leicester game. We are struggling to score granted and a joke no striker was brought in but the same set of players managed to win 14 games the first half of the season and we are still proving hard to beat backed up by the fact we have only lost once in 2023. For me , the O'Brien transfer only becomes pointless if we are actually adrift and personally don't feel that will be the case after the next 3 league game and then another week until our next match.A decision has to be made at some point surely it can't drag into March Beware the Ides of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0verb0y Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 22 hours ago, SBlue said: I personally imagine that we're being quiet because the club realises there's absolutely no way this transfer goes through. We've been refused twice I expect for it to go to arbitration and are now - spending money (which I realise is probably from a different 'pot' from our transfer budget; but still) going through the motions to save some face. ... ... ... ... I don't know enough about how Swag organises the club's finances; but would imagine that, with limited resources, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted February 18, 2023 Backroom Share Posted February 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Steve ugly bastard Cook was very quick to put the boot in us over the O'brian fiasco but now he thinks the rules should be ignored for him so he can add a few more names to his squad list! Fk me all the signings theyve made you'd think they'd have 3 or 4 players for every single position already! Weird one he is! That clubs heading for major early 2000s Leeds style collapse at this rate. Cooper. His defender, Steve Cook, has said nothing of the sort 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0verb0y Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Who said that? Clearly nonsense and a one off. People are IMO understandably not too positive at the moment, we have won 10 points from 10 games in the World Cup. Performances have also been poor and we have seen basically the same set of players nosedive in the new year only 12 months ago. The 2 latest draws in isolation are solid points away at 2 play off contenders but amidst the run we are on they feel less important. I don't get the constant insinuations that people take pleasure in their team not doing well. Fwiw, I don't think any of us take any pleasure in our team not doing well. It's more that, these days we seem to be owned and - in the back office - managed by people for whom Rovers matter less than they used to in the halcyon days when Uncle Jack owned us and had a management team led by John Williams who took a similar pride in the club. The freakish sequence of results at the start of this season spoke well for me, at least, of JDT's ability to get more than we might have expected from a lop-sided squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, islander200 said: The next 3 league games are all winnable without O'Brien and he would be cup tied anyway for the Leicester game. We are struggling to score granted and a joke no striker was brought in but the same set of players managed to win 14 games the first half of the season and we are still proving hard to beat backed up by the fact we have only lost once in 2023. For me , the O'Brien transfer only becomes pointless if we are actually adrift and personally don't feel that will be the case after the next 3 league game and then another week until our next match.A decision has to be made at some point surely it can't drag into March The next 3 games are certainly very big and if we are still in touch at the point, then I agree you do have a valid point. I would take 5 points now, but hope we can get 6 from the two home games and go to QPR with those points in the bag. I honestly think it is a big ask that though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 hours ago, roversfan99 said: People are IMO understandably not too positive at the moment, we have won 10 points from 10 games in the World Cup. Performances have also been poor and we have seen basically the same set of players nosedive in the new year only 12 months ago. The 2 latest draws in isolation are solid points away at 2 play off contenders but amidst the run we are on they feel less important. Not too positive at the moment? We are in good position to secure a top 6 finish currently. We have just got 2 very good draws at 2 playoffs chasing teams when most people on here expecting nothing and were writing their team off even before a ball was kick in. Most thought after the WBA scored the game was over and we wouldn't score. Guess what we did. Maybe people need to back their team and don't write them off 11 hours ago, roversfan99 said: I don't get the constant insinuations that people take pleasure in their team not doing well. Maybe its not pleasure but far too many people write their team off 11 hours ago, Mercer said: Unless we get a blow by blow account, which Broughton has promised!!!!, then we may never know with certainty. Given that Rovers are still fighting in and got sports lawyers in and went to keep fighting it suggested we have a very good case and the EFL was at fault. 11 hours ago, Mercer said: How many transfers do the EFL handle over the course of a season - I'm guessing at 750+ Yet don't have proper procedure in place with an independent panel or people to decide them quickly but as always with them nothing is done with speed 11 hours ago, Mercer said: How many transfers do Rovers execute over the course of a season - 10 at most! I know where my money would be placed re the fault factor. IMO, the stench from Ewood is nauseating. always quick to blame Rovers every time Mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 13 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Do you think Rovers were to blame? serious question, can the club ever do right in your eyes? Absolutely, no coincidence we failed with the Brierly transfer too. And evidently they haven't done much right since sacking Sam Alladyce. 2 chances at play offs in a row and the club failed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Absolutely, no coincidence we failed with the Brierly transfer too. And evidently they haven't done much right since sacking Sam Alladyce. I ain't surprised by your answer at all 5 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: 2 chances at play offs in a row and the club failed. Our chances this season aren't over this season so don't get this notice we failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Not too positive at the moment? We are in good position to secure a top 6 finish currently. We have just got 2 very good draws at 2 playoffs chasing teams when most people on here expecting nothing and were writing their team off even before a ball was kick in. Most thought after the WBA scored the game was over and we wouldn't score. Guess what we did. Maybe people need to back their team and don't write them off Maybe its not pleasure but far too many people write their team off Given that Rovers are still fighting in and got sports lawyers in and went to keep fighting it suggested we have a very good case and the EFL was at fault. Yet don't have proper procedure in place with an independent panel or people to decide them quickly but as always with them nothing is done with speed always quick to blame Rovers every time Mercer Yes, not too positive at this specific moment. We are in poor form and have been since the World Cup Break, 10 points from 10 games and boring football to go with. That is how people feel at the moment, just as when we got to March say last season, we was still "in a good position to secure a top 6 finish" and our position was above some expectations at the start of the season, but we all still felt negative about the situation. Because for a decent period of time, performances and results had dropped off. What is the need to ram this superfan nonsense down peoples throats? At the ground, people back the team. On here when we are playing poorly, people will criticise. Nothing to do with backing the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Given that Rovers are still fighting in and got sports lawyers in and went to keep fighting it suggested we have a very good case and the EFL was at fault. Yet don't have proper procedure in place with an independent panel or people to decide them quickly but as always with them nothing is done with speed always quick to blame Rovers every time Mercer Are Rovers still fighting and says who? EFL will not blink - as custodians / governing body they have to be seen to be strong. Speed is of the essence in instances such as these. IF Rovers are serious about this then presumably they will be represented by KC and the cost for KC is feckin mega bucks (circa £2,000 / hour). I feckin wish Rovers would start doing things both right and well and I would then be at the front of the queue to praise them. Sadly, IMO, our club is shambolic and seem to make a dog's breakfast out of most things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, roversfan99 said: What is the need to ram this superfan nonsense down peoples throats? At the ground, people back the team. On here when we are playing poorly, people will criticise. Nothing to do with backing the team. There is no super fan nonsense at all but people stating a different opinion which you don't agree with. 3 hours ago, Mercer said: Are Rovers still fighting and says who? EFL will not blink - as custodians / governing body they have to be seen to be strong. The EFL will blink IMO and realise they aren't fit for purpose. EFL should have had this situation sorted 2 weeks ago but yet again its not. No surprise with EFL or any Football authorities to be fair 3 hours ago, Mercer said: Speed is of the essence in instances such as these. IF Rovers are serious about this then presumably they will be represented by KC and the cost for KC is feckin mega bucks (circa £2,000 / hour). I have no idea who we hired as lawyers but I think @JHRovermentioned it earlier in the threat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Mercer said: Are Rovers still fighting and says who? EFL will not blink - as custodians / governing body they have to be seen to be strong. Speed is of the essence in instances such as these. IF Rovers are serious about this then presumably they will be represented by KC and the cost for KC is feckin mega bucks (circa £2,000 / hour). I feckin wish Rovers would start doing things both right and well and I would then be at the front of the queue to praise them. Sadly, IMO, our club is shambolic and seem to make a dog's breakfast out of most things. It will be a bargain if we get the Sunshine band as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superniko Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: There is no super fan nonsense at all but people stating a different opinion which you don't agree with. The EFL will blink IMO and realise they aren't fit for purpose. EFL should have had this situation sorted 2 weeks ago but yet again its not. No surprise with EFL or any Football authorities to be fair I have no idea who we hired as lawyers but I think @JHRovermentioned it earlier in the threat EFL: “We are at fault, we were wrong, we are not fit for purpose” Yeah, that’s not happening Chadster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neophox Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Were are we now in this mess? Any news on the OBrian situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugayisgod Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, neophox said: Were are we now in this mess? Any news on the OBrian situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, neophox said: Were are we now in this mess? Any news on the OBrian situation? IMO, EFL didn't blink and we did because we didn't really have a leg to stand on. I think all smoke and mirrors in an attempt to placate some of the fans who naively swallow the bullsh1t that I think spews out of Ewood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I haven't read anything official except the Rovers statement. This whole thread is a BRFCS speciality, make rumours up and argue about them 😄 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Rovers just hoping O'Brian quickly finds a club abroad so they can brush it all under the carpet with a 'well we tried..... We're a financially small club.... We dont have parachute payments.... It's never happened here before.... Blah blah blah...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 hours ago, JohnD said: I haven't read anything official except the Rovers statement. This whole thread is a BRFCS speciality, make rumours up and argue about them 😄 No it isn’t 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Mercer said: IMO, EFL didn't blink and we did because we didn't really have a leg to stand on. I think all smoke and mirrors in an attempt to placate some of the fans who naively swallow the bullsh1t that I think spews out of Ewood. Another conspiracy theory Mercer. We wouldn't be pursing this if we thought we didn't have a case. It baffling how quickly you are to write off the club you support and are stakeholder in. EFL have been challenge finally and maybe it will change how they run the game finally and actually set up an independent body to oversee transfers and late transfers. Btw the lawyers we hired are to fight this case are Centrefields based in Manchester Centrefield LLP | Sport Law | Media Law | Legal Advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Another conspiracy theory Mercer. We wouldn't be pursing this if we thought we didn't have a case. It baffling how quickly you are to write off the club you support and are stakeholder in. EFL have been challenge finally and maybe it will change how they run the game finally and actually set up an independent body to oversee transfers and late transfers. Btw the lawyers we hired are to fight this case are Centrefields based in Manchester Centrefield LLP | Sport Law | Media Law | Legal Advice Who says we are pursuing it? We are almost 3 weeks post transfer window closure and seemingly zilch has been reported. Btw, when I referred to KC in an earlier post, it referred to 'Kings Counsel' and not a firm of lawyers! You keep believing Chaddy but, IMO, this one ran out of legs almost before the starting gun was fired! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mercer said: Who says we are pursuing it? We are almost 3 weeks post transfer window closure and seemingly zilch has been reported. Btw, when I referred to KC in an earlier post, it referred to 'Kings Counsel' and not a firm of lawyers! You keep believing Chaddy but, IMO, this one ran out of legs almost before the starting gun was fired! Cos it been reported we are. Did you miss that bit? Plenty has been reported by 3 different journalists. What more do you want? A minute to minute account with details of everything. Of course I will keep believing in my club I support and stakeholder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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