Season tickets 2023-24 - what could/should be offered ?

[tomphil]

Almost as if they'd prefer casual buyers paying more per ticket.

[Guest]

13 new season tickets sold in the last couple of days.

I know that price is a factor. I think the uncertainty surrounding Tomasson has also been playing it's part. I think we've all felt a slight dread of what is to come if Tomasson goes after a good first season at the helm. I think if it was confirmed that he wasn't going anywhere, and we started to get a signing or two through the door early on, then it might reassure some supporters that we aren't going to return to some of the old ways.

One thing I will say is that the numbers of new season ticket holders does look decent. It's the non-renewers they need to bank on, now. The above things might sway some to do so.

[Old Rover]

Latest season ticket sales for local clubs :

Wigan 3600 early bird finishes 31st May £329 to £349

Bolton almost 15,000, Early bird finished ages ago and they were on 14.326 ) £219 to £309  then £299 to £399

Preston 6,200 early bird finishes 5th June £280 to £380

We will have an idea tomorrow what we are on, I am guessing circa 8.000 £379 cheapest

 

So i think price does matter, about 80% of Bolton sales have been between the £269 to £289 mark , and 80% of Preston sales have been between £280 and £300.. That is the ideal price, Are you listening Mister Swagott

Edited May 27, 2023 by Old Rover

[Guest]

@goozburger you know what to do soldier!

[Ossydave]

10 hours ago, Old Rover said:

Latest season ticket sales for local clubs :

Wigan 3600 early bird finishes 31st May £329 to £349

Bolton almost 15,000, Early bird finished ages ago and they were on 14.326 ) £219 to £309  then £299 to £399

Preston 6,200 early bird finishes 5th June £280 to £399

We will have an idea tomorrow what we are on, I am guessing circa 8.000 £379 cheapest

 

So i think price does matter, about 80 % of Bolton sales have been between the £269 to £289 mark , and 80% of Preston sales have been between £280 and £300.. That is the ideal price, Are you listening Mister Swagott

Where are you getting these figures from?

[Upside Down]

The respective club websites I presume.

[MarkBRFC]

19 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said:

@goozburger you know what to do soldier!

I bet the map isn't even updated yet with it being a bank holiday weekend.

[Guest]

I'm still in bed thinking about John Bull. I'll shift my arse shortly and then let you know that the map hasn't been updated.

[Ossydave]

22 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

The respective club websites I presume.

Presuming wrong then I would have thought, Preston wouldn't be crowing about them figures on the club website.

[Mattyblue]

Looking at their forum it’s come from some bloke on Twitter who’s banned from said forum… so maybe not the most reliable of sources.

[Guest]

No change in the seat map at the moment. I'll check again later.

In the meantime, I noticed that the front rows at ground-level in most of the blocks are all unavailable. These are seats for disabled supporters and carers, and the seat map also reflected this last year until some time after the "save your seat period". I will keep an eye on this, but for now, I'll add these front-row seats to the list of non-saleable seats as I don't want to include them as season ticket sales. There are around 535 of them in total.

As of right now, the seat map estimates 10,561 season ticket sales, including non-renwers. Best I could figure earlier is that somewhere between 3,000-4,000 hadn't renewed, and we'd sold 1,600 new season tickets altogether.

[Mattyblue]

No point speculating (he says as he speculates), but if we have lost 3-4k existing ST holders that seems an exceptionally high (and worrying) number - well over a third.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

No point speculating (he says as he speculates), but if we have lost 3-4k existing ST holders that seems an exceptionally high (and worrying) number - well over a third.

Prices aside (I know...), it's possible the Super Saver period has financially caught some people out with it being so early. Last season, the early bird period finished at the end of June, which is almost two months later than this time around. Cashflow and saving enough for the season ticket when the Super Saver period finished so early could be a bit of an issue for some if you're not prepared for it.

[Mattyblue]

Possibly, all just adds to *yet another* shambolic ST sales campaign.

[Old Rover]

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Looking at their forum it’s come from some bloke on Twitter who’s banned from said forum… so maybe not the most reliable of sources.

Yes I did get the Preston figure from Twitter but I think it's about right, they will probably sell a lot before the deadline but maybe not as many as last year. The other figures are from their club websites.

[only2garners]

There will be some up to date numbers in the Fans Forum minutes, which should be out next week.

[OldEwoodBlue]

1 hour ago, only2garners said:

There will be some up to date numbers in the Fans Forum minutes, which should be out next week.

Instead of just telling us.

[Mattyblue]

Be embargoed, if he releases it on here first Swag will be getting the Club Secretary to serve him papers… if they could find them on time.

[rigger]

2 hours ago, only2garners said:

There will be some up to date numbers in the Fans Forum minutes, which should be out next week.

So they will be two weeks out of date. 

[tomphil]

16 hours ago, Old Rover said:

Latest season ticket sales for local clubs :

Wigan 3600 early bird finishes 31st May £329 to £349

Bolton almost 15,000, Early bird finished ages ago and they were on 14.326 ) £219 to £309  then £299 to £399

Preston 6,200 early bird finishes 5th June £280 to £380

We will have an idea tomorrow what we are on, I am guessing circa 8.000 £379 cheapest

 

So i think price does matter, about 80% of Bolton sales have been between the £269 to £289 mark , and 80% of Preston sales have been between £280 and £300.. That is the ideal price, Are you listening Mister Swagott

Is he balls listening all he's looking at is hitting his 4 million takings target and probably earmarking what games to charge more for.

Also not lost on him will be if we averaged 3k home walk ups through the season on match by match prices that's a nice chunk of money, more than STs of a similar amount would yield.

[rigger]

42 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Is he balls listening all he's looking at is hitting his 4 million takings target and probably earmarking what games to charge more for.

Also not lost on him will be if we averaged 3k home walk ups through the season on match by match prices that's a nice chunk of money, more than STs of a similar amount would yield.

I think this season walk ons will decrease by a similar amount to what new season tickets are sold.

[Mattyblue]

Why? That’s not how it normally works here. Indeed if we have sold not far off 2k STs to newbies by KO, that means we’d only be selling c1k walk ons a game - which just won’t happen.

Edited May 27, 2023 by Mattyblue

[rigger]

16 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Why? That’s not how it normally works here. Indeed if we have sold not far off 2k STs to newbies by KO, that means we’d only be selling c1k walk ons a game - which just won’t happen.

 I think there will be a lot more people picking and choosing which games to attend next season.

[Mattyblue]

Why would it be any different than every other season?

[rigger]

10 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Why would it be any different than every other season?

because it looks like there will be fewer season ticket holders, so people will tend, to not go to as many games.