Season tickets 2023-24 - what could/should be offered ?

[Gav]

20 hours ago, Doogs said:

I understand that people feel the season tickets are priced to high. But just to put another view over. Rovers is a business that racks up losses In the millions each year....If season tickets wer cheaper would it make much difference? The way I see it the only way the fan base would increase would be promotion to the Premier  league. That is what happened in 92...Just putting a different perspective out there...

Cheers..

They wouldn’t sell many more Doogs unless you radically reduce the price,  you’re spot on. 

If the product on the pitch is worth supporting, the Blackburn public will turnout, as last season proved many times, regardless of price.

Its been that way since time and memorial.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Gav

[JohnD]

29 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The evidence is everywhere and with anything for sale.

Reduce the price of something and you'll sell more of it, all other things being equal. 

Agreed but as many as 4k?

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Indeed it isn't.

Do we have any evidence to support the theory that knocking £100 off our price will add another 4k+ season ticket holders?

Good afternoon Steve!

[JohnD]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

 ‘no point reducing as we won’t ever sell anymore outside the Prem’…

I didn't say that

[Mattyblue]

Yes 4k, if PNE have done exactly that, why not us?

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Agreed but as many as 4k?

If you need more proof, Bolton sold over double ours... 14,000.

[Wheelton Blue]

2 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Agreed but as many as 4k?

Who knows exactly how many? Perhaps the club's marketing team should do, but that might be stretching it.

One thing is for sure, our numbers won't increase very much at all under the current pricing approach.

[JohnD]

Just now, Mellor Rover said:

If you need more proof, Bolton sold over double ours... 14,000.

I don't see how another, better supported, team is proof of what Rovers can do.

I assumed that after so many comments on the subject there was likely to be evidence to prove the theory. I really should have known better.

[JohnD]

3 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Who knows exactly how many? Perhaps the club's marketing team should do, but that might be stretching it.

Yes they really should know!

[Mattyblue]

11 minutes ago, Gav said:

They wouldn’t sell many more Doogs unless you radically reduce the price,  you’re spot on. 

If the product on the pitch is worth supporting, the Blackburn public will turnout, as last season proved many times, regardless of price.

Its been that way since time and memorial.

PNE have, Bolton have. One is knocking around the second tier like us, the other is in the third division.

Last season proved the opposite, we’ve spent two seasons knocking on the door of the PL and the crowd moved upwards only minimally, that tells you that we haven’t got enough ST holders to see bumper crowds even when chasing promotion - why, price?

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Mattyblue]

8 minutes ago, JohnD said:

I don't see how another, better supported, team is proof of what Rovers can do.

I assumed that after so many comments on the subject there was likely to be evidence to prove the theory. I really should have known better.

Bolton better supported? Since when? 😁 Have a look through the history books if you want proof that that’s nonsense. Now you are trolling.

You’ve asked for proof, we’ve given you two local clubs with similar fanbases *right now* proving it and an example here in a previous era - what more proof do you need?

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mattyblue

[JohnD]

Nonsense, nothing like proof.

Ah, the trolling comment is commonly used for difficult questions or opinions.

Let me put it another way ..... What would it take to convince Waggot that this needs looking at?

I believe there's sufficient interest and expertise on here to define the questions and the answers.

Perhaps the fans forum could submit the evidence.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, JohnD said:

I don't see how another, better supported, team is proof of what Rovers can do.

I assumed that after so many comments on the subject there was likely to be evidence to prove the theory. I really should have known better.

Bolton better supported than Rovers????????? 

I'll leave you to think that through

[Sweaty Gussets]

Just now, JohnD said:

Nonsense, nothing like proof.

Ah, the trolling comment is commonly used for difficult questions or opinions.

Let me put it another way ..... What would it take to convince Waggot that this needs looking at?

I believe there's sufficient interest and expertise on here to define the questions and the answers.

Perhaps the fans forum could submit the evidence.

You don't have any evidence it won't. Where's your evidence? 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, JohnD said:

I don't see how another, better supported, team is proof of what Rovers can do.

I assumed that after so many comments on the subject there was likely to be evidence to prove the theory. I really should have known better.

What more evidence would you like? It's backed by statistical examples all over Lancashire.

Where is the proof that I can't breathe in space? I might be different to every other living thing that's tried it and failed. 

[Mattyblue]

2 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Nonsense, nothing like proof.

Ah, the trolling comment is commonly used for difficult questions or opinions.

Let me put it another way ..... What would it take to convince Waggot that this needs looking at?

I believe there's sufficient interest and expertise on here to define the questions and the answers.

Perhaps the fans forum could submit the evidence.

Swag won’t be convinced because it is not a dead cert to hit his revenue targets like 7/8k at his inflated prices, so he won’t take the risk. He has made that very clear to both the LT and FF.

Why are active case studies at two very similar local clubs ‘nonsense’?

 

 

 

 

 

[K-Hod]

53 minutes ago, JohnD said:

🥱

I think you can do better than being as dismissive as this, in fairness.

[Mattyblue]

He brought up the 4k thing, so a bit of a bizarre emoji to use 😁

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mattyblue

[JohnD]

7 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

 

Why are active case studies at two very similar local clubs ‘nonsense’?

 

 

 

 

 

I never said they were and didn't know there were active case studies at similar local clubs.

Can you point me in their direction?

[Mattyblue]

Oh I see, you are being purposely obtuse now. Think you know what I mean by ‘active case studies at local clubs’ considering the extra bums on seats at two grounds to our west and south, but however you get your kicks, John.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mattyblue

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, JohnD said:

I never said they were and didn't know there were active case studies at similar local clubs.

Can you point me in their direction?

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-city-membership-prices-2023-8451701

Hull City, cheaper memberships from 21-22 season, resulted in 40% increase in average attendances to a level above ours and are now targeting 20,000 this season

Can you send me an example to counter our (many now) examples? Maybe one where a lower season ticket price DIDN'T lead to a greater uptake?

I'm sure you'll have lots to draw from?

Edited June 6, 2023 by Mellor Rover

[arbitro]

5 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Nonsense, nothing like proof.

Ah, the trolling comment is commonly used for difficult questions or opinions.

Let me put it another way ..... What would it take to convince Waggot that this needs looking at?

I believe there's sufficient interest and expertise on here to define the questions and the answers.

Perhaps the fans forum could submit the evidence.

Waggott has a financial target to reach set by the errant ones and he boasted about meeting this last season. Why he hasn't been tasked with increasing the attendance in line with the financials God only knows. It appears he is the stumbling block aided and abetted by owners who don't care about thousands of empty seats. Waggott seems to me to always that the path of least resistance and knows he can his his objective by screwing the loyal eight thousand or so. Job done.

What we need is somebody who is prepared to take the risk (quite minimal I believe) and reduce the prices like John Williams did. That initiative paid dividends. If that happens and it doesn't engender lots of extra sales then at least he has tried. After all we have billionaire owners who apparently never refuse a request for money who could supplement any loss.

The million dollar question is in hold and only Waggott can answer that. My own view is he is lazy and is embedded in his own comfort zone.

[blondie]

"Don't devalue the product" Madame Desai circa 2010.

[Gav]

39 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

PNE have, Bolton have. One is knocking around the second tier like us, the other is in the third division.

Last season proved the opposite, we’ve spent two seasons knocking on the door of the PL and the crowd moved upwards only minimally, that tells you that we haven’t got enough ST holders to see bumper crowds even when chasing promotion - why, price?

Yet Blackburn Rovers are better supported than both PNE and Bolton, which blows this daft argument out of the water, again…..

I saw you run for cover when 6000 tickets went at £33 a pop for Sheff Utd away Matty, 😉

[blondie]

3 minutes ago, Gav said:

Yet Blackburn Rovers are better supported than both PNE and Bolton, which blows this daft argument out of the water, again…..

I saw you run for cover when 6000 tickets went at £33 a pop for Sheff Utd away Matty, 😉

Average attendances say otherwise.