Hasta Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JohnD said: He's the manager, has all the stats, and carries the can so he can select whoever he wants, I don't think balls come into it So keep playing Gallagher up front and if you don’t get the 4 wins you need from 9 games, including 5 at home, you’ve failed. If he thinks that Gallagher and Morton’s performance over the last 2 games is good enough because of the ‘stats’ then fine. But 2 defeats and 0 goals scored are pretty damning stats. @SIMON GARNERS 194 Just because you’ve got piss poor options, it doesn’t mean you don’t try them when you’re firing blanks. We can’t do any worse than score 0 goals and have 0 presence up top. Playing kids would be a brave move at this stage, but it doesn’t seem it can be worse than what we are getting. Edited April 9, 2023 by Hasta 7 Quote
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R0verb0y Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 On 08/04/2023 at 13:12, Sparks Rover said: The fans are getting behind them, sold out on Monday. Big game, wonder what's going to happen with Warnock buzzing....incidently, someone you didn't want under any circumstances. Every big game we've played this season we have bottled. I know the point you're making, @Sparks Rover ; but was the West Ham League Cup game only a medium-sized game? It certainly felt pretty big on our way home. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 Sheff Utd at home was a big game and a big win. 6 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, R0verb0y said: I know the point you're making, @Sparks Rover ; but was the West Ham League Cup game only a medium-sized game? It certainly felt pretty big on our way home. Clutching there mate...we had nowt to lose, not a big game by any means. 3 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 The frustration is palpable for all,we're in a dip in form just at the wrong time.We know how well this side can play...we just all want a winning responce tomorrow. SHAPE UP ROVERS!! Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Clutching there mate...we had nowt to lose, not a big game by any means. What people call a “ Free Hit “, as was the Leicester game. 4 Quote
cesus Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 I'm just praying the lads find some form tomorrow. If I'm being brutally honest we don't have masses of different personnel to actually pick from with our replacements. We don't have a form player to replace an out of form player. We are getting to the point now where just not having people like Gallagher and Morton in the team will give fans the boost, can somebody step up? 1 Quote
arbitro Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: He scored in all 3 games before the international break to be fair. And even in those games he scored he was a passenger most of the time. He just isn't doing enough to justify a starting place in my view. We need everyone to be at it tomorrow and at the moment he isn't. 4 Quote
Miller11 Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 I think some of the criticism of Brereton’s performance is harsh. Practically every pass to him was a safe one in to his feet, or just behind him, on the halfway line with his back to goal. He’s at his best when he’s running onto balls over the top or into the channels. Our play was nowhere near brave enough, it was the return of the laboured, incessant passing to feet. Playing Hedges encourages this. He’s slow and on his wrong foot so he’s always coming backwards. One thing Gallagher has done well in recent weeks has been coming deep to win flick-ons. This didn’t happen once on Friday through no fault of his, it was because we barely varied our play at all. That doesn’t excuse the rest of Gallagher’s dreadful performance though, and I’d be reluctant to start him despite the lack of options, same goes for Hedges. Surely now the penny must have dropped regarding Morton. I’d give Brittain a start and play JRC in front of him, that’s more to do with our lack of options tomorrow than anything Brittain has done - he’s been disappointing overall. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Miller11 said: I think some of the criticism of Brereton’s performance is harsh. Practically every pass to him was a safe one in to his feet, or just behind him, on the halfway line with his back to goal. He’s at his best when he’s running onto balls over the top or into the channels. Our play was nowhere near brave enough, it was the return of the laboured, incessant passing to feet. Playing Hedges encourages this. He’s slow and on his wrong foot so he’s always coming backwards. One thing Gallagher has done well in recent weeks has been coming deep to win flick-ons. This didn’t happen once on Friday through no fault of his, it was because we barely varied our play at all. That doesn’t excuse the rest of Gallagher’s dreadful performance though, and I’d be reluctant to start him despite the lack of options, same goes for Hedges. Surely now the penny must have dropped regarding Morton. I’d give Brittain a start and play JRC in front of him, that’s more to do with our lack of options tomorrow than anything Brittain has done - he’s been disappointing overall. So BBD didn't look shattered after 10 mins or didn't make one run in behind their right back first half? Quote
Miller11 Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: So BBD didn't look shattered after 10 mins or didn't make one run in behind their right back first half? No, I don’t think he looked noticeably shattered. After their goal he was reasonably lively, but Pickering, Hyam and Morton’s first touch always seemed to take them back towards our own goal. He took up a number of more advanced, central positions when Szmodics sat in for him, but again the passes were sideways at best. At one point he came deep and picked the ball up in our box, strode out and played a through ball to Morton that he didn’t quite have the legs (or maybe desire) to get on to. On about 20 minutes he had tracked back far enough to cut out a loose pass about 20 yards away from goal and pass back to Pears when nobody else was bothering to do what should’ve been a central midfielders job. He also made a good few runs into their box when the ball was on the right, but the only time Hedges put an early cross in it was very deep and he got under it. Quote
RoversTilliDie Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: He scored in all 3 games before the international break to be fair. Other players have been given their chance, why not Leonard who can't stop scoring for the under 21s. 2 Quote
ben_the_beast Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: Gallagher actively runs away from the ball in the box. If we play a ball into the near-post he's at the far post. If we play a ball into the far post he's at the near post. If we roll one across the 6 yard box, he's on the 18 yard line. It's genuinely uncanny. In a weird way, it's actually quite impressive how he's literally always in the wrong place. I'm not sure how he manages it. 8 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Miller11 said: No, I don’t think he looked noticeably shattered. After their goal he was reasonably lively, but Pickering, Hyam and Morton’s first touch always seemed to take them back towards our own goal. He took up a number of more advanced, central positions when Szmodics sat in for him, but again the passes were sideways at best. At one point he came deep and picked the ball up in our box, strode out and played a through ball to Morton that he didn’t quite have the legs (or maybe desire) to get on to. On about 20 minutes he had tracked back far enough to cut out a loose pass about 20 yards away from goal and pass back to Pears when nobody else was bothering to do what should’ve been a central midfielders job. He also made a good few runs into their box when the ball was on the right, but the only time Hedges put an early cross in it was very deep and he got under it. Fair enough if that your view. I thought he was shattered after 10 mins and very poor Quote
ben_the_beast Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 I'd be ringing in a few changes. Just get some players in who will be chomping at the bit. Kaminski for Pears, Brittain for JRC, Wharton for Morton, Leonard for Gallagher. Not all those players necessarily deserve to be dropped, but mixing it up when results aren't going in your favour is no bad thing. Quote
Miller11 Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Fair enough if that your view. I thought he was shattered after 10 mins and very poor Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he had a good game, nobody really did, but I think we have far bigger issues than Brereton. Quote
davulsukur Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 A lot of clamour for Leonard, and I'd be more than happy to see him involved, but he won't start. He'll be lucky to make the bench. 2 Quote
roverandout Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: and his performance against Norwich was pathetic and he looked shattered after 10 minutes Gallagher was even more pathetic yet u won't criticise him Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Miller11 said: Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he had a good game, nobody really did, but I think we have far bigger issues than Brereton. I thought Szmodics was our best player by far. What are these bigger issues if you want to elaborate on here? 6 minutes ago, roverandout said: Gallagher was even more pathetic yet u won't criticise him Not for me but yet again no surprised to see you hammering Gallagher again. Same stuff different day from you. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said: In a weird way, it's actually quite impressive how he's literally always in the wrong place. I'm not sure how he manages it. got absolutely no anticipation or footballing intelligence,for a centre forward thats not good 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said: In a weird way, it's actually quite impressive how he's literally always in the wrong place. I'm not sure how he manages it. That is the definition of "hiding"... Quote
wilsdenrover Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said: got absolutely no anticipation or footballing intelligence,for a centre forward thats not good You’d think ‘blind luck’ would get you in the right positions sometimes. Quote
Miller11 Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I thought Szmodics was our best player by far. What are these bigger issues if you want to elaborate on here? Not for me but yet again no surprised to see you hammering Gallagher again. Same stuff different day from you. Morton and Gallagher are massive problems for us at the moment. We have several better options than Morton and continually playing him is costing us. I’m not generally as down on Gallagher as many in here are, but he is far from prolific at his best. Right now he is in dreadful form and therefore pretty useless. 4 Quote
philipl Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 I am reluctant to call it a must win but after losing the must not lose to Norwich this has become a must win. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: You’d think ‘blind luck’ would get you in the right positions sometimes. he does occasionally get in a goal scoring position,but then his finishing lets him down and his heading ability for a big lad of 6"3 is terrible,i don`t want to get to critical of gallagher because he works hard but just has`nt got that goalscoring instinct,we definately need to get someone in next season Quote
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