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I think Adam shouldn't and can't be compared to any other English player, simply because he doesn't play like a typical Englishman. I believe he's the only player that's been produced in this country since Scholes that plays like a typical Spanish or old school Italian player. I'd build the England team around him. An extremely important player with unique qualities that we haven't had for a long long time. 

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8 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Paul Shepstone ?

along with the rest of the young lads mackay played he was pretty rank,all that group of youth team players were never good enough,neither was lowe,but he somehow kept his place for nigh on 120 games,mowbray realised from day one he was`nt up to it and got shut quickly

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4 hours ago, Neal said:

I think Adam shouldn't and can't be compared to any other English player, simply because he doesn't play like a typical Englishman. I believe he's the only player that's been produced in this country since Scholes that plays like a typical Spanish or old school Italian player. I'd build the England team around him. An extremely important player with unique qualities that we haven't had for a long long time. 

It's mad he never got a single minute at the euros

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On 28/02/2025 at 14:22, Neal said:

I think Adam shouldn't and can't be compared to any other English player, simply because he doesn't play like a typical Englishman. I believe he's the only player that's been produced in this country since Scholes that plays like a typical Spanish or old school Italian player. I'd build the England team around him. An extremely important player with unique qualities that we haven't had for a long long time. 

I'd say Michael Carrick was the last English player that Wharton can be compared to

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10 hours ago, roverandout said:

I'd say Michael Carrick was the last English player that Wharton can be compared to

 

5 hours ago, Neal said:

Better than him IMO

Wharton now is superior to Carrick in his prime by some distance.

Carrick was a great player, misused by England due to an obsession with fitting Gerrard and Lampard into the same team, but he was neat and tidy, rather than playing the line breaking passes that Wharton does

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2 hours ago, KentExile said:

 

Wharton now is superior to Carrick in his prime by some distance.

Carrick was a great player, misused by England due to an obsession with fitting Gerrard and Lampard into the same team, but he was neat and tidy, rather than playing the line breaking passes that Wharton does

This is Rovers tinted glasses. He's not even playing for England regularly or doing it at a top team. He has the potential to be better than Carrick but already "some distance better than prime Carrick" is ridiculous. Players go off the boil (not that I think he will) or end up played out of position at the wrong club. Where did you rank Jones when he left us for United? I bet you had him as above Adams

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44 minutes ago, Plastics said:

This is Rovers tinted glasses. He's not even playing for England regularly or doing it at a top team. He has the potential to be better than Carrick but already "some distance better than prime Carrick" is ridiculous. Players go off the boil (not that I think he will) or end up played out of position at the wrong club. Where did you rank Jones when he left us for United? I bet you had him as above Adams

Jones injuries were serial and with long-term consequences. He was a reckless defender who cost himself an even better career than he had.

Never able to fulfil  all his promise.

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3 hours ago, KentExile said:

 

Wharton now is superior to Carrick in his prime by some distance.

Carrick was a great player, misused by England due to an obsession with fitting Gerrard and Lampard into the same team, but he was neat and tidy, rather than playing the line breaking passes that Wharton does

Busquets said in an interview thst he based his game on Carrick. Carrick could play inch perfect 60 yard passes with both feet 

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3 hours ago, KentExile said:

 

Wharton now is superior to Carrick in his prime by some distance.

Carrick was a great player, misused by England due to an obsession with fitting Gerrard and Lampard into the same team, but he was neat and tidy, rather than playing the line breaking passes that Wharton does

Certainly has the potential to be a far better player than Carrick, who was also a great player.

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7 minutes ago, 47er said:

Jones injuries were serial and with long-term consequences. He was a reckless defender who cost himself an even better career than he had.

Never able to fulfil  all his promise.

Jones never got any better. He was making the same mistakes at 25 that he was making at 18. Too impetuous by far.

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7 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Busquets said in an interview thst he based his game on Carrick. Carrick could play inch perfect 60 yard passes with both feet 

Given time he could. Wharton can make those passes instantly. It’s his speed of thought and execution that stands him out. That’s why he’s made such an impact at Palace.

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1 hour ago, Plastics said:

This is Rovers tinted glasses. He's not even playing for England regularly or doing it at a top team. He has the potential to be better than Carrick but already "some distance better than prime Carrick" is ridiculous. Players go off the boil (not that I think he will) or end up played out of position at the wrong club. Where did you rank Jones when he left us for United? I bet you had him as above Adams

I do not think it is, I just think it is having an eye for a player.  But you are of course entitled to your own opinion on that

Jones, I had as having the potential to be certainly a regular England squad member, and possibly a regular in the England team, given the relative dearth of centre back talent available in a post Campbell, Ferdinand, Terry world..  Obviously injures put paid to that

As for above Adams, no.  He, like the other 3 I mentioned were genuinely some of the best in the business during the height of their careers

 

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26 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I do not think it is, I just think it is having an eye for a player.  But you are of course entitled to your own opinion on that

Jones, I had as having the potential to be certainly a regular England squad member, and possibly a regular in the England team, given the relative dearth of centre back talent available in a post Campbell, Ferdinand, Terry world..  Obviously injures put paid to that

As for above Adams, no.  He, like the other 3 I mentioned were genuinely some of the best in the business during the height of their careers

 

Throw in ledley King and woodgate.  We had some incredible depth at centreback 

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