Adam Wharton

[roverandout]

I would say France Spain Brazil Argentina England Germany are the main contenders.  Then you have Portugal Netherlands 

[chaddyrovers]

Not impressed by squad picked by Tuchel. Walker, Burn and Henderson being picked, I'm shocked he picked them 

my squad 

keeper :- Pickford, Ramsdale, Henderson

Defenders :- TAA, James, White, Stones, Guehi, Colwill, Konsa, Lewis-Skelly, Hall(I know he is injured but for me, he would be my first choice left back when fit.) Livramento. 

midfielders :- Rice, Wharton, Gomes, Bellingham, Jones, Anderson, Gibbs-White, 

Attackers :- Kane, Solanke, Rogers, Rashford, Palmer, Bowen, Foden, Hudson-Odoi 

Edited March 14 by chaddyrovers

[chaddyrovers]

With the world cup in the North America during the summer, The favourites for me are Brazil, Argentina, Spain, with Just below that us, France and Germany

[roverandout]

Don't know why everyone rates Brazil so highly.  Weakest selection of players in 20 years. The days of Ronaldo Ronaldinho Rivaldo Carlos cafu are long gone. They barely possess any true world class players.  Outside of vinicius Jr I don't think they have any. Maybe the keepers. The only reason I think people could have them as one of the favourites is the climate in North America  they're picking players from wolves west ham Newcastle flamengo Santos.  Yes some of our players are from there yet Brazil are the darlings 

Edited March 14 by roverandout

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, London blue said:

Curious where you think we're lacking

Winning mentality.

[G Somerset Rover]

10 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Don't know why everyone rates Brazil so highly.  Weakest selection of players in 20 years. The days of Ronaldo Ronaldinho Rivaldo Carlos cafu are long gone. They barely possess any true world class players.  Outside of vinicius Jr I don't think they have any. Maybe the keepers. The only reason I think people could have them as one of the favourites is the climate in North America 

Agreed. They’re 5th in SA qualifiers (not even guaranteed to make it yet). That’s why I mention the likes of Colombia and Uruguay. On American soil I would currently prefer to play Brazil than those two (and of course Argentina).

Edited March 14 by G Somerset Rover

[Tugayisgod]

Wharton in U21 squad, so that makes a nonsense of those saying he s not fit enough for full squad .

Bring back Southgate!

Tbh, looking at both squads, think I'd rather watch the u21s under Carsley than the 1st team under tuchel

Edited March 14 by Tugayisgod

[roversfan99]

56 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Don't know why everyone rates Brazil so highly.  Weakest selection of players in 20 years. The days of Ronaldo Ronaldinho Rivaldo Carlos cafu are long gone. They barely possess any true world class players.  Outside of vinicius Jr I don't think they have any. Maybe the keepers. The only reason I think people could have them as one of the favourites is the climate in North America  they're picking players from wolves west ham Newcastle flamengo Santos.  Yes some of our players are from there yet Brazil are the darlings 

They seemingly arent doing that well in qualifying but im sure they will qualify and as the World Cup is over a year away form means nothing. Palmer, Foden and Bellingham have all been out of form but no worries there.

But it doesnt require this narrative of England being unfairly perceived in comparison. I just think on paper they look strong all over. Alisson is a brilliant keeper, Gabriel is one of the best defenders around at the moment and Marquinhos is still a top defender. Bruno is one of the best midfielders doing what he does and its not just Vinicius in attack, him, Rodrygo and Raphinha are all top players and then youve got the likes of Cunha, Joao Pedro, Savinho etc around that.

[roverandout]

43 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They seemingly arent doing that well in qualifying but im sure they will qualify and as the World Cup is over a year away form means nothing. Palmer, Foden and Bellingham have all been out of form but no worries there.

But it doesnt require this narrative of England being unfairly perceived in comparison. I just think on paper they look strong all over. Alisson is a brilliant keeper, Gabriel is one of the best defenders around at the moment and Marquinhos is still a top defender. Bruno is one of the best midfielders doing what he does and its not just Vinicius in attack, him, Rodrygo and Raphinha are all top players and then youve got the likes of Cunha, Joao Pedro, Savinho etc around that.

We won't agree but fullback with Brazil is weak. Yes I forgot about gabriel. Midfield doesn't particularly stand out. I don't rate Rodrygo.  His goals mask his performances.  Their striker options are particularly weak

[islander200]

He has been called up to the under 21s so presumably Tuchel just hasn't picked him rather than listening to Crystal Palace request 

[chaddyrovers]

Tuchel squad selection is safe and conversative. Not what I thought he would be 

[DeeCee]

Jordan fucking Henderson!

[rock steady]

Incredible.

[DE.]

Odd choices. If he's thinking about selecting Henderson and Walker for next year's WC then lol. Good luck. If he isn't then why bother calling either up now? 

[Upside Down]

20 hours ago, London blue said:

He got as close as you can get?

No he didn't.

He was gifted a route to the final that even an under 11s coach could have made their way through then was completely and utterly outclassed when the big game came.

[Mercer]

When Wharton moves to a 'fashionable' club eg City, Chelsea he will become an automatic slection.  It's that simple.

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

When Wharton moves to a 'fashionable' club eg City, Chelsea he will become an automatic slection.  It's that simple.

Correct.

[roverandout]

3 hours ago, Upside Down said:

No he didn't.

He was gifted a route to the final that even an under 11s coach could have made their way through then was completely and utterly outclassed when the big game came.

Gifted isn't the right word. It wasn't a difficult route but alot of teams that have win world cup or euros have had simpering paths. I remember France getting an easy path on the way to winning the world cup. Portugal stunk their way to winning the euros in 2016.  People shouldn't diminish southgate's achievements 

[roverandout]

Just now, roverandout said:

Gifted isn't the right word. It wasn't a difficult route but alot of teams that have win world cup or euros have had simpering paths. I remember France getting an easy path on the way to winning the world cup. Portugal stunk their way to winning the euros in 2016.  People shouldn't diminish southgate's achievements 

Similar not simpering 

[G Somerset Rover]

Good to see that Tuchel isn’t clinically insane. He cited his recent injury and he’ll be training with the seniors too:

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/it-was-very-close-thomas-tuchel-explains-why-crystal-palace-star-missed-out-on-senior-england-squad/

[DeeCee]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25013338.tomasson-details-wharton-intervention-blackburn-spell/

[bluebruce]

On 15/03/2025 at 10:02, G Somerset Rover said:

Good to see that Tuchel isn’t clinically insane. He cited his recent injury and he’ll be training with the seniors too:

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/it-was-very-close-thomas-tuchel-explains-why-crystal-palace-star-missed-out-on-senior-england-squad/

I didn't read that as him not picking him because of the recent injury (why put him in the u21s if it's in any way to protect him?). Reads to me more like 'he's close, but I didn't think he's ready yet so I went with Henderson for his experience. I thought about picking both but we wanted an extra keeper instead'

[roverandout]

Wharton will wow tuchel in training and get drafted in

[NeilInBristol]

On 14/03/2025 at 12:08, Tugayisgod said:

Wharton in U21 squad, so that makes a nonsense of those saying he s not fit enough for full squad .

Bring back Southgate!

Tbh, looking at both squads, think I'd rather watch the u21s under Carsley than the 1st team under tuchel

Doesnt tuchel want to just win these games and isn't interested in training or bedding in youth. U21 should be good for Adam. He will be ready for the WC then if we qualify 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

According to the BBC both Utd and City are preparing to battle it out for Wharton’s signature this Summer. Somebody please tell me again that £ 18 million was a really good deal for us.