sunderland

[Hasta]

9 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i can`t see luton beating coventry or middlesborough in a one of game on a big pitch like wembley,they did struggle a bit on saturday in sunderland which is also a wide pitch

They had the second best away record in the league so I think they'll be OK. They'd beat Coventry. It depends on which Boro turn up. Boro had a purple patch mid season, but they can be a bit Jekyl and Hyde, and I wouldnt fancy Lenihan under that aerial bombardment.

Edited May 16, 2023 by Hasta

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

Hahaha.

Sunderland didn't lay a glove on Luton. With all those talented players that was an absolute no show of a second leg by Sunderland. Thought Roberts was their only good attacking players. But Mowbray had him playing at right back for a game and three quarters.

They had no defenders left with Batth, Ballard, Alese etc out.

[philipl]

Classic Mowbray. 

Chose the wrong tactics then had no plan B

[Upside Down]

Sounds like he went full Mowbray. 

Brilliant. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

50 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

geldhart is about as much use as jack vale,glad we did`nt procure him on loan

I’d forgotten he was playing in the second half, same goes for Diallo.

[jim mk2]

Looton bleeding Town. Looton FFS. At Wembley. In the Championship play-off final. 

Meanwhile, we're supposed to savour our best season in years, because it's "progress"

*Bangs head against wall*

 

[philipl]

Luton did a job on Dialo

[booth]

Sunderland looked exactly like Rovers and the players Mowbray left behind. If you're desperate for a goal don't shoot, take a touch on it and pass it. Then lose the ball. Then repeat till defeat.

I could have easily been fooled that Travis, Hedges or Dolan were in those Sunderland shirts.

[SuperBrfc]

Hold on, a huge tanker like Sunderland can't lose against a club of Luton's size. There must be some kind of mistake.

Can we not do "next goal winner" instead, for our Tone?

Sunderland can be anything it wants to be, apparently. I'm sure the Sunderland fans are consoling themselves with those words tonight.

[booth]

27 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Hold on, a huge tanker like Sunderland can't lose against a club of Luton's size. There must be some kind of mistake.

Can we not do "next goal winner" instead, for our Tone?

Sunderland can be anything it wants to be, apparently. I'm sure the Sunderland fans are consoling themselves with those words tonight.

A huge wanker can.

[tomphil]

Now that their brief excitement is over after sneakily crawling through the back door into the play offs, all because us and a few others couldn't get our acts together.  It's time for Tony to dust off the tombola set his plod in motion and re-establish the Makems as a midtable Mogga side.

He needs to revert to type now and water down any expectation whilst taking them on his journey to nowhere land.

[Upside Down]

2 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Now that their brief excitement is over after sneakily crawling through the back door into the play offs, all because us and a few others couldn't get our acts together.  It's time for Tony to dust off the tombola set his plod in motion and re-establish the Makems as a midtable Mogga side.

He needs to revert to type now and water down any expectation whilst taking them on his journey to nowhere land.

Fortunately he reverted to type halfway through the playoff semis.

[AllRoverAsia]

8 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’d forgotten he was playing in the second half, same goes for Diallo.

Diallo's early diving failed to impress the Ref and then apart from the odd bit of good skills he just about disappeared.

The false 9, if that's what it was, failed against Lockyer who is a thug whilst also being a damn good footballing defender.

Clarke was also ineffective.

[AllRoverAsia]

8 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Looton bleeding Town. Looton FFS. At Wembley. In the Championship play-off final. 

Meanwhile, we're supposed to savour our best season in years, because it's "progress"

*Bangs head against wall*

 

It's a judgement on how poor the league has been this season and how we most spectacularly messed up the playoffs.

A combination of players bottling it with a manager lacking experience in the Championship.

Coventry and Sunderland are confirmation of the opinion.

[philipl]

If the Championship has been poor this season, it has been absolute kak before.

[Tugayisgod]

Mowbrays job under threat apparently.

Seems crazy to me but heyho

https://talksport.com/football/efl/1426739/tony-mowbray-sunderland-sack-championship-play-off-luton/

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

36 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Mowbrays job under threat apparently.

Seems crazy to me but heyho

https://talksport.com/football/efl/1426739/tony-mowbray-sunderland-sack-championship-play-off-luton/

It hasn’t taken them five seasons to realise he isn’t the answer.

[Tugayisgod]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It hasn’t taken them five seasons to realise he isn’t the answer.

I'm no Mowbray apologist, but think he's done a pretty remarkable job considering they've not had Stewart mos of the season.

Nearly back to back promotions isn't to be sniffed at. Sunderland's problem was similar to ours when playing direct teams, not enough height in the side

[benhben]

48 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Mowbrays job under threat apparently.

Seems crazy to me but heyho

https://talksport.com/football/efl/1426739/tony-mowbray-sunderland-sack-championship-play-off-luton/

Cant see there being any truth behind the sacking rumors, but the comments on there are full mowbray. Already talking about how good the teams coming up from L1 are and how hard it will be for little sunderland next season. 

[JHRover]

Mowbray was the ideal man to take over when Neil ditched them.

Available, local, keeps a happy camp, a father figure for a young squad, tells the fans what they like to hear and a steady record of avoiding any relegation trouble.

Sunderland were sensible, they knew an off the wall appointment after Neil could send them back to where they came. They needed a safe pair of hands to get them through and they surpassed expectations sneaking into the playoffs

It is clear though that their owner and Director of Football have a plan and ambition, so it may seem odd to us after listening to Mowbray's tripe for 5 years about a journey that they make such a decision but that's what engaged, ambitious owners do, we just aren't used to it here.

I must say if they do sack him off it is going to be interesting to witness the reaction of his acolytes in the Rovers fanbase. There are still plenty who reckon he was hard done to here and that we should have given him more time (to do what exactly?). So it will be hilarious to see those same people if Sunderland sack him after 9 months having got them into the play-offs.

Goes to show that the Club is bigger than one man and the direction and ambitions of the Club come first, not the wishes and feelings of one man. It was the wrong way around here, no more so evident than the giant flag of him that Waggott had commissioned and flown before home games.

[47er]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It hasn’t taken them five seasons to realise he isn’t the answer.

In the time we've been out of the Premiership, Luton have gone from non-League to being one game away from the Premier League. They've got a tiny stadium---only 9000 of their supporters in last night so not much money. Yet there  they are.

Completely puts the lie to Mowbray's 5 years and Venkys 12. We haven't even made the play-offs in all that time!

We're being conned!.

Edited May 17, 2023 by 47er

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, 47er said:

In the time we've been out of the Premiership, Luton have gone from non-League to being one game away from the Premier League. They've got a tiny stadium---only 9000 of their supporters in last night so not much money. Yet there  they are.

Completely puts the lie to Mowbray's 5 years and Venkys 12. We haven't even made the play-offs in all that time!

We're being conned!.

Well, some of us anyway...

[booth]

5 minutes ago, 47er said:

In the time we've been out of the Premiership, Luton have gone from non-League to being one game away from the Premier League. They've got a tiny stadium---only 9000 of their supporters in last night so not much money. Yet there  they are.

Completely puts the lie to Mowbray's 5 years and Venkys 12. We haven't even made the play-offs in all that time!

We're being conned!.

Yep, they didn’t have the Tony Mowbray  journey for 5 years and idiot ceo/owners not protecting their assets.

Instead, season on season building up their team and keeping hold of their good players, as well as investing wisely.

[AllRoverAsia]

2 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

I'm no Mowbray apologist, but think he's done a pretty remarkable job considering they've not had Stewart mos of the season.

Nearly back to back promotions isn't to be sniffed at. Sunderland's problem was similar to ours when playing direct teams, not enough height in the side

He had nowt to do with their promo from L1, he was busy with a death spiral elsewhere.

He also inherited a decent squad but did lose Stewart and the loan striker from Everton.

Odd for me to say it but it would be harsh to sack him after getting to playoffs but maybe the Sunderland are fearful of what might come.

[DE.]

It may be that Mowbray's five year 'journey' here has cost him in this instance, as the Sunderland hierarchy may be using that as a barometer to judge whether he's capable in the long run of delivering promotion. This season he had somebody else's team to manage and nobody can deny he's done a fantastic job, but give him longer to build his own team and it's more likely it ends up like Boro and us, nearly-rans under him who never made it. 

It would be a harsh decision based on what he's achieved in the short-term, but you could argue that based on a long-term view it's a ruthlessly correct decision if he is replaced. Obviously depends on who they appoint though.