sunderland

[Hasta]

  On 17/05/2023 at 08:21, philipl said:

If the Championship has been poor this season, it has been absolute kak before.

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Depends on whether you think Burnley and Sheffield United are outstandingly good compared to team that have come first and second in previous years.

For the top two sides to be 21 and 11 points clear of 3rd is extremely rare, if has ever happened in recent times. When you think of the Newcastle, Fulham, Norwich teams that have got promoted in recent seasons and none have ever been as far clear as those two are this year. 

 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 17/05/2023 at 11:42, DE. said:

It may be that Mowbray's five year 'journey' here has cost him in this instance, as the Sunderland hierarchy may be using that as a barometer to judge whether he's capable in the long run of delivering promotion. This season he had somebody else's team to manage and nobody can deny he's done a fantastic job, but give him longer to build his own team and it's more likely it ends up like Boro and us, nearly-rans under him who never made it. 

It would be a harsh decision based on what he's achieved in the short-term, but you could argue that based on a long-term view it's a ruthlessly correct decision if he is replaced. Obviously depends on who they appoint though.

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You’ve got to be ruthless in football. If you aren’t other teams are and you find yourself left behind. I saw enough of Mowbray in our promotion season to know he was never going to get us out of the championship. We should have fired him and looked around for a better candidate while our stock was high.  I said so at the time and nothing I’ve seen subsequently has caused me to change my mind.

Edited May 18, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[roversfan99]

  On 17/05/2023 at 10:50, booth said:

Yep, they didn’t have the Tony Mowbray  journey for 5 years and idiot ceo/owners not protecting their assets.

Instead, season on season building up their team and keeping hold of their good players, as well as investing wisely.

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They focus on the upcoming season as much as any notions of years down the line, whilst still signing players especially forwards that increase in value. If we had their owners and non footballing staff with the added bonus of our academy to gain extra assets then we would be ahead. Such a shit state of affairs.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 17/05/2023 at 12:16, roversfan99 said:

They focus on the upcoming season as much as any notions of years down the line, whilst still signing players especially forwards that increase in value. If we had their owners and non footballing staff with the added bonus of our academy to gain extra assets then we would be ahead. Such a shit state of affairs.

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I’m tired of saying it but - once more. No company in any walk of life will thrive if it’s being run like the Chicken Chokers run Blackburn Rovers. It’s just not possible, even Pep would struggle.  If we were a child we’d be put into care.

Edited May 17, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Gav]

Half a season without your top striker
1 fit centre half 
Still got them into the playoffs with the youngest squad in the championship, 
Mowbray has done a fantastic job at Sunderland.

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 17/05/2023 at 18:01, Gav said:

Half a season without your top striker
1 fit centre half 
Still got them into the playoffs with the youngest squad in the championship, 
Mowbray has done a fantastic job at Sunderland.

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you`ve used the wrong tense,should be  "did a fantastic job" he`s about to be sacked any day now🤣😅

[chaddyrovers]

Will Sunderland sack Mowbray and go for foreign head coach which seems what the plan according to the rumours? If he is kept on for next season as soon as they lose 4 or 5 games they sack him asap 

[philipl]

Sunderland can't even sack a manager!

They need to get that guy from Watford to give them a few tips.

[Guest]

  On 16/05/2023 at 21:18, jim mk2 said:

Looton bleeding Town. Looton FFS.

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It must be bad. Jim never swears. 😄

[roversfan99]

[simongarnerisgod]

this is when the **** will happen,giving tony a lot of money is`nt the smartest idea😆

[booth]

  On 18/05/2023 at 20:18, simongarnerisgod said:

this is when the **** will happen,giving tony a lot of money is`nt the smartest idea😆

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Wonder whether he'll put in a bid for all those young boys he absolutely loves and raised like his own?

Travis, Gallagher and Vale are available Tony!

[roversfan99]

Id say to get Armstrong, Brereton and Gallagher for £15m is pretty good going. Only the latter blotting the copybook.

[booth]

  On 18/05/2023 at 20:30, roversfan99 said:

Id say to get Armstrong, Brereton and Gallagher for £15m is pretty good going. Only the latter blotting the copybook.

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Brereton was a wreckless signing at the time when we had so many players to replace. Gallagher for £5m is unfathomable.

He did well with Dack and Armstrong.

[wilsdenrover]

  On 18/05/2023 at 20:30, roversfan99 said:

Id say to get Armstrong, Brereton and Gallagher for £15m is pretty good going. Only the latter blotting the copybook.

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£15 million seems ‘top end’ to say the least.

By comparison, this season’s top three scorers cost their clubs a combined £6 million.

 

[DE.]

  On 18/05/2023 at 20:15, roversfan99 said:

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Wonder if that paves the way for Dack to Sunderland? Have to think Mowbray will be floating the idea to the recruitment team. Ayala as well perhaps?

[Upside Down]

Sunderland death spiral here we come!

[Gav]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12883650/jobe-bellingham-sunderland-confident-of-signing-birmingham-midfielder-who-is-younger-brother-of-england-star-jude

Looks like Mowbray is trying to get his business done early, Jobe Bellingham £3m from Brum.

Back in Lancashire, we'll be sat here at 1 minute to midnight on transfer deadline day waiting for the owners to pick up the phone.......

 

[Sweaty Gussets]

 

[Blow-in]

  On 17/05/2023 at 12:21, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’m tired of saying it but - once more. No company in any walk of life will thrive if it’s being run like the Chicken Chokers run Blackburn Rovers. It’s just not possible, even Pep would struggle.  If we were a child we’d be put into care.

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If we were a child they would be Gary Glitter.

[roverandout]

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:22, Sweaty Gussets said:

 

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Never seen him move before.  So that's what it looks like

[chaddyrovers]

  On 18/05/2023 at 22:03, DE. said:

Wonder if that paves the way for Dack to Sunderland? Have to think Mowbray will be floating the idea to the recruitment team. Ayala as well perhaps?

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Mowbray seems to have very little say in transfers and from his comments he is enjoying just being a head coach not a manager like he was here. 

 

[DE.]

  On 19/05/2023 at 18:32, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray seems to have very little say in transfers and from his comments he is enjoying just being a head coach not a manager like he was here. 

 

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In general I know he doesn't have much say, but I'm sure he's permitted to have some input. It wouldn't surprise me if he's put Dack's name forward to the recruitment team, even if it isn't ultimately his decision.

[Gav]

  On 19/05/2023 at 18:32, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray seems to have very little say in transfers and from his comments he is enjoying just being a head coach not a manager like he was here. 

 

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More the fool them I say:

Armstrong, Dack, Rothwell, Diaz, at any normal clubs that’s £50m+ right there.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 19/05/2023 at 18:37, DE. said:

In general I know he doesn't have much say, but I'm sure he's permitted to have some input. It wouldn't surprise me if he's put Dack's name forward to the recruitment team, even if it isn't ultimately his decision.

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Possible I guess. Weren't the rumours he was joining Charlton? I think he will get some Championship offers like Huddersfield, Stoke and Birmingham wouldn't surprise me to be honest.