Premier League

[davulsukur]

2 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Saints should stick with Martin for two reasons:

1. They're going down anyway, nobody is going to come in and change that.

2. It's REALLY funny

He's just been sacked, unfortunately 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

no chance. 

Ange is class 

Hes a dickhead. Arrogant, constantly smarmy and thinks he is better than he is.

[davulsukur]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Hes a dickhead. Arrogant, constantly smarmy and thinks he is better than he is.

Another one that can't handle it when his methods/tactics etc. gets questioned by the media.

[Upside Down]

Damn that's a real shame.

Why he was given the job in the first place will always be a mystery to me, Swansea were bang average at best.

[Exiled_Rover]

The gap between the Championship and the Premier League is clearly monumental these days.

Remember when Rovers, Bolton and Fulham all stayed up?

Now the promoted teams are lucky to get to 30 points - and that's after spending tens of millions on new players.

I'd LOVE it if we were promoted this year, but we'd come straight back down. 

[RoverDom]

If only official attendance figures were counted based on numbers left at the start of the second half. Saints could have been counted on one hand. 

[sharpysharps86]

Russell Martin has been sacked. Hopefully Southampton don't come sniffing around Eustace.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Russell Martin has been sacked. Hopefully Southampton don't come sniffing around Eustace.

This was a topic for discussion on here last night. Just saying.

[sharpysharps86]

10 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

This was a topic for discussion on here last night. Just saying.

Errrm, ok...? Not sure what your point is. 😅.

As I say, hopefully they don't come near JE.

Edited December 16, 2024 by sharpysharps86

[DE.]

I rarely watch MOTD these days, but I watched it on Oct 26 and was left baffled as the pundits lavished praise upon Russell Martin after bottom of the table, winless Southampton lost again. You'd have thought they were top of the league and winning every match. It was like some kind of cult broadcast. Utterly bizarre and I'm clearly out of touch with the modern game. I thought the point of football was to win matches. 

Edited December 16, 2024 by DE.

[Rogerb]

Talk sport saying Southampton after Sheff Wednesday manager but hit problem. 

[Upside Down]

5 hours ago, DE. said:

I rarely watch MOTD these days, but I watched it on Oct 26 and was left baffled as the pundits lavished praise upon Russell Martin after bottom of the table, winless Southampton lost again. You'd have thought they were top of the league and winning every match. It was like some kind of cult broadcast. Utterly bizarre and I'm clearly out of touch with the modern game. I thought the point of football was to win matches. 

Fortunately this article is actually grounded in reality and absolutely takes the piss out of him.

There's also some digs in there at the dingles and St Vincent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/russell-martin-southampton-manager-sacked-b2665104.html

[DE.]

26 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Fortunately this article is actually grounded in reality and absolutely takes the piss out of him.

There's also some digs in there at the dingles and St Vincent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/russell-martin-southampton-manager-sacked-b2665104.html

Good to see somebody telling the brutal and honest truth, rather than pretending Martin is some kind of footballing visionary ahead of his time.

A lot of people said Ipswich would get wrecked this season, but Kieran McKenna has made changes to his philosophy whilst trying to keep the core principles in place. Granted they've only won two games this season, but they haven't been a pushover and haven't had many resounding defeats - other than Man City early in the season, and West Ham away, the majority of their defeats have been by only one or two goals. There's still a good chance they go down, but they're competing and putting up a fight. Southampton are basically already down.

[DeeCee]

Martin to Oxford anyone?

[chaddyrovers]

On 15/12/2024 at 22:30, roversfan99 said:

Hes a dickhead. Arrogant, constantly smarmy and thinks he is better than he is.

Can't agree. He is passionate about football, confident in his ability, etc..

We have to agree to disagree here

On 15/12/2024 at 22:24, davulsukur said:

He's just been sacked, unfortunately 

No surprised but its the Southampton owner and Director of Football who wanted to play this style and chased Russell Martin for weeks. 

Former Danish national team coach Kasper Hjulmand is the bookies favourite. Question is, is the change of head coach too late to keep them up and would they be better focusing on appointing a head coach for next season in the Championship and getting promotion from it. 

they got the recruitment badly wrong in the summer. signed too many players not enough quality 

11 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Martin to Oxford anyone?

Very weird sacking their head coach Des Buckingham after doing a great job getting them up

Edited December 17, 2024 by chaddyrovers

[roversfan99]

Why do director of footballs decide the tactics these days.

[Mattyblue]

Imagine Eustace having to explain himself  to Gregg Broughton because he wasn’t hitting some ‘data point’ or other for some useless metric.

Edited December 17, 2024 by Mattyblue

[roversfan99]

I dont know whether he should have been sacked, but I think Manning had Oxford top last season and they dropped under Buckingham. Although he did still get them up.

Edited December 17, 2024 by roversfan99

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why do director of footballs decide the tactics these days.

Cos they will employ an head coach who fits the ethos of the club and what they want. If you are club who wants to bring through young players and develop them then you would appoint someone with history of this. If you want to play a certain playing style then you appoint someone who fits your objective. 

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont know whether he should have been sacked, but I think Manning had Oxford top last season and they dropped under Buckingham. Although he did still get them up.

Of course he didn't the sack for me. He got the job done and get the promote just like when we appointed Eustace and he kept us up. job done

[roversfan99]

Fit the ethos, fit the style. Just nonsense management speak. Whatever happened to letting the manager decide how they want to play, regardless of delusions about how it should be played. The result of this is managers sticking to a style that doesnt suit the players at his disposal and getting the sack.

[ben_the_beast]

18 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Fortunately this article is actually grounded in reality and absolutely takes the piss out of him.

There's also some digs in there at the dingles and St Vincent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/russell-martin-southampton-manager-sacked-b2665104.html

Brilliant article. For me the beauty of football is there are so many ways to play the game. I've always hated it when managers and the like look down their noses at styles which differ from their own, like Wenger did with us in the 00's. 

Martin strikes me as selfish. Someone more determined that he as an individual is associated with a style of play in the hope it'll be good for his career, rather than being adaptable and pragmatic for the good of the club. 

[chaddyrovers]

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Fit the ethos, fit the style. Just nonsense management speak. Whatever happened to letting the manager decide how they want to play, regardless of delusions about how it should be played. The result of this is managers sticking to a style that doesnt suit the players at his disposal and getting the sack.

We don't have managers any more, we have head coaches whilst we have sporting director running the football departments whilst head coaches are just in charge of first team affairs. Managers have gone from the game and that old style role has gone from Football. 

Like I said, Sporting Director and owners will pick the head coach that fit what they want. 

Russell Martin was picked by Southampton cos they wanted to play that style. Would he have been my choice? no he wouldn't. But he delivered what they wanted which was promotion. This season, Martin will not adapt his footballing philosophy to get better results.  

[K-Hod]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We don't have managers any more, we have head coaches whilst we have sporting director running the football departments whilst head coaches are just in charge of first team affairs. Managers have gone from the game and that old style role has gone from Football. 

Like I said, Sporting Director and owners will pick the head coach that fit what they want. 

Russell Martin was picked by Southampton cos they wanted to play that style. Would he have been my choice? no he wouldn't. But he delivered what they wanted which was promotion. This season, Martin will not adapt his footballing philosophy to get better results.  

Then he's arrogant and too pig-headed to succeed. That is backed up by the fact he's now unemployed.

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Then he's arrogant and too pig-headed to succeed. That is backed up by the fact he's now unemployed.

His comments and action back that up. 

 

[Bob Belcher]

The Premier League is a cesspool for the most part. Would I love for Rovers to continue this good bit of form and somehow get promoted come seasons'e end? Of course.

However, so much money would be needed to stay up, get demolished more often than not, and just I don't think have as much fun as perhaps most fans think they would.

Again though want us to get there yes, but in the grand scheme of things, the Championship is just more exciting if I am being honest.🤷‍♂️