Premier League

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

Pep was manager of Barcelona B for a year in 2007/8.  Iniesta, Xavi & Messi were already established with the first team at this point, Pep could maybe take credit for developing Busquets as he was involved in the B team at the same time.

Edit - not to say that Pep didn't utilise those players very well once he was manager of the first team

Pep Guardiola's appointment as Barcelona manager was the best decision they made in terms of playing style and culture of the club. Some club officials wanted Mourinho in charge to replace Rijkaard but Laporte appointed Guardiola. 

Xavi had been in the first team squad for 10 years, Iniesta and Messi for a few years but its the way he built the team structure, playing style and demands on the players change. 

I used to follow Barca in the 90's and 2000's and used to always watched a few Spanish games every weekend but time changes. 

 

[roversfan99]

Szmodics has scored away at Tottenham to put Ipswich 1 up.

I suspect having taken probably the last chance he will ever had to play Premier League football, and having scored goals at big stadiums against the big teams, whether they come straight back down or not, this idea that he made a poor choice going there is one he certainly wouldnt agree with.

[simongarnerisgod]

25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Szmodics has scored away at Tottenham to put Ipswich 1 up.

I suspect having taken probably the last chance he will ever had to play Premier League football, and having scored goals at big stadiums against the big teams, whether they come straight back down or not, this idea that he made a poor choice going there is one he certainly wouldnt agree with.

no way he was going to stop here with the chance of top flight football,we maybe could have persuaded him to stay if we had an ambition of getting promoted,but that is`nt and will never be the case when venkys are here,sammie as a player here,would know that within a month of signing for us

[DeeCee]

43 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Szmodics has scored away at Tottenham to put Ipswich 1 up.

I suspect having taken probably the last chance he will ever had to play Premier League football, and having scored goals at big stadiums against the big teams, whether they come straight back down or not, this idea that he made a poor choice going there is one he certainly wouldnt agree with.

Over head kick as well. ❤️

[Darrenbot]

52 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Szmodics has scored away at Tottenham to put Ipswich 1 up.

I suspect having taken probably the last chance he will ever had to play Premier League football, and having scored goals at big stadiums against the big teams, whether they come straight back down or not, this idea that he made a poor choice going there is one he certainly wouldnt agree with.

If he keeps scoring then even if Ipswich go down another middling Prem team could sign him or one of the 3 going up from the Championship,plus the extra wages hes getting paid it was a always the right decision to leave us.

[DE.]

Should have put some money on that. If any team was going to give Town their first win of the season, now ETH has left United, it was going to be Spurs. At home, no less! 

[roversfan99]

51 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

no way he was going to stop here with the chance of top flight football,we maybe could have persuaded him to stay if we had an ambition of getting promoted,but that is`nt and will never be the case when venkys are here,sammie as a player here,would know that within a month of signing for us

Even if we were having a real go at promotion. A laughable idea under Venkys as you say but lets run with it. It still wouldnt make sense to give up a guaranteed current shot at the Premier League for a potential one in the future, so he would still move.

[GHR]

Fail to see what the issue is with that David Coote video doing the rounds. All he says is Klopp is a c***, and that is, without any doubt, qualification or caveat, entirely true.

 

Edited to add video. Be aware it has very strong language and references to Burnley.

 

Edited Monday at 16:01 by GHR

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, GHR said:

Fail to see what the issue is with that David Coote video doing the rounds. All he says is Klopp is a c***, and that is, without any doubt, qualification or caveat, entirely true.

 

Edited to add video. Be aware it has very strong language and references to Burnley.

 

The guy called him a German c**t as well.
Not saying this was also true of Coote, but his made had eyes like side plates (I’m suggesting he’s on drugs).

[RoverDom]

Shit ref so hard to tell if its influenced his decision making. 

[Hasta]

Bad decisions on the pitch. Bad decisions off it. Was part of his brain not thinking “ yeah shouldn’t say this on camera”

Edited Tuesday at 08:44 by Hasta

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

According to my paper today -

“  Long story short: Juergen Klopp’s a cunt, Liverpool are all fucking bellends and we hate scousers “.

Bye Bye career.

[arbitro]

Coote and the guy beside him appear to be as high as kites looking at their eyes and slurring of speech. I have no doubt he is finished as a referee. The only issue for me is whether he does the honourable thing and resigns or strings it out with an appeal. Either way I believe he will have lost a job that I estimate will have paid him over £200k per annum. 

It also begs the question as to why referees are not drug tested like the players. I have heard rumours of a few of the celebrity referees who take illegal substances but are simply not tested.

[wilsdenrover]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

According to my paper today -

“  Long story short: Juergen Klopp’s a cunt, Liverpool are all fucking bellends and we hate scousers “.

Bye Bye career.

Stating the obvious shouldn’t end a career 😁😁

[Silas]

15 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Coote and the guy beside him appear to be as high as kites looking at their eyes and slurring of speech. I have no doubt he is finished as a referee. The only issue for me is whether he does the honourable thing and resigns or strings it out with an appeal. Either way I believe he will have lost a job that I estimate will have paid him over £200k per annum. 

Quite the defence this:

Call me a cynic, but if guidelines for dismissal are worded somewhere along the lines of "...is found to have intentionally brought the organisation into disrepute" 

Then, if you don't remember, and blacked out, then it wasn't intentional right. So pay me a big fat cheque to get rid of me please. 

If you're career's done anyway, guaranteed you try to weasel every penny you can. Legal fight upcoming? Would just drag it out and add more shame on the PGMOL. Which is why they probably would cut a cheque. 

Football, the only industry where if you lose, you still win. 

[wilsdenrover]

16 minutes ago, Silas said:

Quite the defence this:

Call me a cynic, but if guidelines for dismissal are worded somewhere along the lines of "...is found to have intentionally brought the organisation into disrepute" 

Then, if you don't remember, and blacked out, then it wasn't intentional right. So pay me a big fat cheque to get rid of me please. 

If you're career's done anyway, guaranteed you try to weasel every penny you can. Legal fight upcoming? Would just drag it out and add more shame on the PGMOL. Which is why they probably would cut a cheque. 

Football, the only industry where if you lose, you still win. 

But surely being so drunk/high that you can’t remember what you said would in of itself be  ‘bringing the organisation into disrepute’

[wilsdenrover]

41 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Coote and the guy beside him appear to be as high as kites looking at their eyes and slurring of speech. I have no doubt he is finished as a referee. The only issue for me is whether he does the honourable thing and resigns or strings it out with an appeal. Either way I believe he will have lost a job that I estimate will have paid him over £200k per annum. 

It also begs the question as to why referees are not drug tested like the players. I have heard rumours of a few of the celebrity referees who take illegal substances but are simply not tested.

Does this extend to championship refs? - some of the decisions we get would certainly suggest so. 

[Silas]

17 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

But surely being so drunk/high that you can’t remember what you said would in of itself be  ‘bringing the organisation into disrepute’

Can't prove he's high, particularly from so many year ago.

And drinking is legal in his downtime, no rule against that. And I have known people that literally 'blackout' after a handful of drinks, and can never remember what happened during a night out we had. 

Oh my, I feel like I'm writing a defence for him. 

Just saying, unless the bloke(s) in the video surface to add more context, I could envisage a good lawyer fighting an unfair dismissal claim. He doesn't say anything about his views influencing referee decisions. Just that he thinks they're ****'s. 

[arbitro]

46 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Does this extend to championship refs? - some of the decisions we get would certainly suggest so. 

There was always lots of drinking at conferences and meetings and the odd punch up when I was on the list. I don't really know too many of the current Select Group 2 referees but I have heard stories of a few of them being sent home from training camps.

[Silas]

Wow! If that's true, the whole organisation is in trouble. 

I'm trying to work out the maths/statistical odds, but it's surely impossible that a ref at his level would 'accidently' not be allocated to a Liverpool game for almost 4 years. 

 

 

[wilsdenrover]

15 minutes ago, Silas said:

Wow! If that's true, the whole organisation is in trouble. 

I'm trying to work out the maths/statistical odds, but it's surely impossible that a ref at his level would 'accidently' not be allocated to a Liverpool game for almost 4 years. 

 

 

He reffed 74 PL matches in that period.

[RevidgeBlue]

I feel a bit sorry for Coote. Klopp has obviously been a twat to him over the years and he's merely giving his opinion on the man. I remember watching one Liverpool game when a decision went against them and you could plainly hear Klopp screaming in the ear of the assistant "You dont give those decisions against us!"

I would have issued him an instant red card for that but of course it went completely unpunished, nor did the TV commentators even acknowledge the remark.

If anything I applaud Coote's honesty. Rather that as opposed to the downright corrupt decisions by officials which happened in favour of Man Ure for years during their pomp which either got brushed under the carpet or passed off as "subconscious bias" -  as if that was something which made it all acceptable.

Edited Tuesday at 17:08 by RevidgeBlue

[Upside Down]

3 hours ago, Silas said:

Quite the defence this:

Call me a cynic, but if guidelines for dismissal are worded somewhere along the lines of "...is found to have intentionally brought the organisation into disrepute" 

Then, if you don't remember, and blacked out, then it wasn't intentional right. So pay me a big fat cheque to get rid of me please. 

If you're career's done anyway, guaranteed you try to weasel every penny you can. Legal fight upcoming? Would just drag it out and add more shame on the PGMOL. Which is why they probably would cut a cheque. 

Football, the only industry where if you lose, you still win. 

Have you not seen the worlds of politics, banking and the police/military/intelligence? 

[Tom]

In any industry really if it’s got potential to be high profile the legal team will review and often decide a settlement agreement is preferable as it’s full and final with non disclosure clauses. 
 

Resigning may be honourable but it’s also financially foolhardy 

[AllRoverAsia]

On 12/11/2024 at 01:02, RoverDom said:

Shit ref so hard to tell if its influenced his decision making. 

So, so true.

The overall standard of referees in the PL and EFL, their assistants including VAR is somewhere south of pathetic. 

They make Courtney look decent.