We are going up (the optimism thread)

[booth]

3 hours ago, ben_the_beast said:

One word. Loans.

We need 2 attacking loan players through the door who are of good quality. 

Do that and spend any remaining money wisely on a permanent addition and this could be a promising season.

I do think we need defensive cover. Baath would have been a good player for that. And as you say two attacking loans, with one of them being a RW. And buy a striker with the cash.

[JohnD]

I thought this deserved to be here -

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/36648-v-hull-city-h-19082023/?do=findComment&comment=2502308

[philipl]

Crazy Plymouth game- at least let in one fewer goal than at Rotherham last season which is the nearest comparison (other 3-0 losses last season were proper thrashings).

All we need is for one of Ennis, Sigurddson and Telalovich to be consistently a significant level better than we had on the pitch yesterday in turning great build up play into on target attempts.

Presumably, all three have been signed by Broughton and the recruitment team because they believe everyone of them is a step up on what we have.

Early days but Moran and Leo look promising, Hall hopefully will gel into the defensive system wherever he plays and I have hopes Tronstad will get more attuned with the English game and how JDT plays.

 

 

[roversfan99]

Theyve also obviously been signed under the restriction of having buttons to spend and with experience and anyone wanting reasonable wages off the agenda. So best available under those restrictions and a significant improvement dont necessarily fall in line.

[chaddyrovers]

No reason why Rovers fans shouldn't be optimistic and we should be looking for playoff place at least. We are creating chances game after game, so hopefully Telalovic can be the player we would like to be. Time will time 

I am very much enjoying how we are playing in attacking play apart from us not finishing our chances off

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I don’t think people have a lack of belief in JDT, but you say ‘more doom and gloom from Rovers fans’ as though we’re unique.

I’m surprised people would be delighted with the end to the window tbh, we’re still a fair way short, in terms of numbers and experience.

Are we short in terms of number really? 

Our is the squad 

Keepers - Pears, Wahlstedt, Hilton

RB - JRC, Brittain

CB - Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Hill

LB - Pickering, 

CM - Wharton, Travis, Tronstad, Garrett, 

RW - Hedges, Markanday

AM - Szmodics, Moran

LW - Sigurdsson, Dolan, 

ST - Gallagher, Telalovic, Ennis, Leonard

Plus some of those listed above can play a number of different positions, So that's a squad of 24 plus then add our few of our younger players like Batty, Gamble, Bloxham and Glisenan. So in terms we have squad. 

Its depends what you call Experience but we have Hyam, Szmodics, Hedges, Scott Wharton, Brittain, Pickering, Travis, Gallagher all experience in English football then Tronstad has top flight Dutch football experience and Sigurdsson has Champions League/international experience. 

Question is when does a player become experience player and what do you base it on. 

On the signings point, we secure 5 signings who were our first choices in Ennis, Tronstad, Sigurdsson, Wahlstedt and Moran. 

[LeftWinger]

22 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

When you look at the squad listing on the website, you see how light we are.

Speaking of this, who is responsible for our squad listing on this website?

 

[J*B]

2 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Speaking of this, who is responsible for our squad listing on this website?

 

It's done through a subscription service - they should update it over time. We have flagged the Adam Wharton one a few times, disappointing they haven't updated it yet.

[joey_big_nose]

We can all get worked up on here, but really we don't know how good or bad we are until we see the new players play. The most important thing is can Ennis, Telalovic, Sigurdsson finish the many chances we are creating.

[booth]

A bit of light within the darkness. An unknown in this league yet, but Zak Gilsenan looks the real deal. If players like Dolan keep underperforming I hope JDT throws ZK in the mix. Looks an exciting player.

[philipl]

Just reflecting and we haven't yet played any team that was better than us and all the points dropped have been self-inflicted.

If I can repeat this refrain after the QPR game before the next international break, we might be on to something this season irrespective of shopping in the remnants bin...

[philipl]

[simongarnerisgod]

no reason,barring an injury catastrophe,why we can`t get in the play offs,though we are a bit to open at times,the better sides in the division would have carved us apart with all that space we gave middlesborough

[ben_the_beast]

It's potentially encouraging and discouraging that our performances this season have been almost exclusively without any new signings. Only Ennis has made any contribution with his assist against Rotherham. 

We've seen the development of both individuals and in overall play when players are given time to understand JDTs ideas. I'd say there's a good chance some of our new signings will begin to have an impact as the season goes on. If they can do that we could have a promising season. On the other hand, it could be that shopping in the bargain bucket means they're not up to scratch. 

A couple of posters have assessed our squad in this thread. Rather than being very weak in some areas, I'd say we have a lot of question marks. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by ben_the_beast

[philipl]

The answers to the ? are the litmus test of the skills of Gregg Broughton and team and of JDT.

PLUS of the 7 individuals to work hard building physical strength and adapting to JDT ball and Championship opposition. 

I think both Moran and Telalovic were a bit shell shocked from fleeting Rovers TV glimpses of them at the end.

Compared with the other 5, Tronstad and Sigurddson have regular football at higher levels behind them but the Championship poses its own challenges. 

If we get all 7 up to standard, it's going to be a very competitive squad.

 

[joey_big_nose]

15 hours ago, philipl said:

Is that this season or since JDT joined? Do you have a link to it as looks like a great site!

[smiller14]

Last season we got better as the season went on - results didn't bear fruit but JDT's stamp was evident and we developed an identity.

As people have said above, if our new lads show the same trajectory and adaptation to JDT's ideas, we have the potential to do something pretty special. 

I keep forgetting we signed Sigurdsson - if he hits the ground running then it solves one of the huge problems we have in the final third. I'm very excited to see how it all pans out. 

[LeftWinger]

17 hours ago, philipl said:

Maybe we should bring in Paul Ince for assistance on what to do when we get into the penalty area?

 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOAL1LXXUAEeA04.jpg

[philipl]

I will stick it here.

Arteta has decided Raya is his first choice 'keeper.

[DE.]

I've moved a significant amount of posts in here to the pessimism thread, as that is where they belong. This was supposed to be kept as an optimism-only zone, but I haven't really been checking it, so my bad. Instead of hiding a significant amount of posts I've moved most of them to the more relevent thread. 

[JohnD]

3 goals away from home 👌

[BRFC4EVA]

It might sound mad after Ipswich but remove Pears from goal, everything clicks and I think we're away. Imperative jrc plays rb with freedom to move into midfield to make up the numbers.

Siggy is class and has the potential to do a Tella or Benson. Telavoic will start scoring and we are going up!

Edited September 24, 2023 by BRFC4EVA

[Bethnal]

33 minutes ago, BRFC4EVA said:

It might sound mad after Ipswich but remove Pears from goal, everything clicks and I think we're away. Imperative jrc plays rb with freedom to move into midfield to make up the numbers.

Soggy is class and has the potential to do a Tella or Benson. Telavoic will start scoring and we are going up!

I think the iffiness from Hyam recently has been Pears-related. I think it takes time for the relationship between the back four and Leo to develop but I have to hope that he’s at least as good with distribution and leagues ahead in terms of everything else. Which he might be, right? Right?!

[JohnD]

That Hill is a bit of a player, we only conceded one and the only way is up!!

Edited October 4, 2023 by JohnD

[RoverDom]

This is the only thread I'm going to be checking for the next couple of weeks I think 🤣

Of course the recent run is cause for concern but I do feel like once everything clicks we could be a handy little side. 

Moran, siggy, Sammy, a fit Ennis is a decent front 4. I think there's a player in Markanday somewhere and if Dolan found his form again then that's not a bad back up. Midfield players are good just need the right balance and defence is good if a little lacking in depth. 

I think out best 11 fully fit and played in the right system would be unplayable.