Venky’s v Indian Government (a) - 25/3/2025 - Perennially Re-Arranged Challenge Match

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Doesn't the Family Playboy Balaji Roa want his Son to take over?

This could be a much longer,painful death than we ever,ever imagined possible...fookin God help us.

[RevidgeBlue]

20 hours ago, 47er said:

You're making an assumption that once this case is settled the owners will back us.  I've no such confidence.

No they'll be able to. There's a difference.

They can now. Can we completely get away from this notion that they're somehow prevented from doing so because of the Court proceedings.

They are CHOOSING not to.

[Waggy76]

On 13/01/2025 at 13:30, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Well I never...BOOM! and there you go.

We might get a hearing around 2035.Sit tight folks.

It is all a put up job, orchestrated by the Venkys and their cronies in the Indian legal system... 

Edited January 14 by Waggy76

[DeeCee]

2 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

Date confirmed as 25th March.

I won’t be posting any further on this thread.

Bet you do? 🤔

[Andy]

2 hours ago, Angry_Pirate said:

I don't mean this disrespectfully or aggressively, but as a genuine question - as members of the Venky's family seem fully dug in to our club.

Who would have to retire, step down - or die - from the family, for Venkys to realistically sell the club - who is the family member(s) that's clinging on and preventing a sale. I can't see them passing us down to their children to inherit many years from now.

Like I said, not a "Let's Kill Venky's" post, more of a what would it actually take for them to sell us at a loss - as a Championship team.

That is literally their plan.

One of the sons who attends uni in the UK uses Jack's former suite (which is now adorned in Venky family portraits) occasionally throughout the season.

Their intention is to pass the club onto him in due course.

It never ends.

[Mattyblue]

I honestly think they’ll own it for generations. Unbelievable really that we’ve ended up with such a unique ownership situation, in which they are not remotely interested in the club, but won’t countenance selling it either. 

[only2garners]

5 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

Date confirmed as 25th March.

I won’t be posting any further on this thread.

Just missed being able to attend in person. I’m flying back from New Delhi on 22nd.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Andy said:

That is literally their plan.

One of the sons who attends uni in the UK uses Jack's former suite (which is now adorned in Venky family portraits) occasionally throughout the season.

Their intention is to pass the club onto him in due course.

It never ends.

There won't be a club to pass on. 

[alcd]

On 13/01/2025 at 19:48, den said:

A population of 1.429 billion. 

On a population-equivalent basis that would imply 2.5m cases in the UK. The legal system backlog here is bad but nothing like that bad. 

[MarkBRFC]

14 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There won't be a club to pass on. 

I fully believe there will be.

I think they will always as a last resort put in just enough to keep administration away.

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21 hours ago, Andy said:

That is literally their plan.

One of the sons who attends uni in the UK uses Jack's former suite (which is now adorned in Venky family portraits) occasionally throughout the season.

Their intention is to pass the club onto him in due course.

It never ends.

What in the Roy Wegerle did I just read? I fuckin hope not or I've just basically wasted my life's free time 

[Andy]

2 hours ago, ... said:

What in the Roy Wegerle did I just read? I fuckin hope not or I've just basically wasted my life's free time 

It's true.

If you take the stadium tour, the guide will take you into the suite and tell you the same.

[philipl]

Well it is the first rational reason I have sén for their continued ownership.

How old is the son?

What is he doing currently?

[RevidgeBlue]

5 hours ago, philipl said:

Well it is the first rational reason I have sén for their continued ownership.

How old is the son?

What is he doing currently?

Id assume he must be older than University age by now.

I met a very polite young lad briefly a few years ago who I was led to believe was Mrs. D's son. Not sure if it was the same person but if not again he'd be a similar sort of age as well.

Certainly as at three or four years ago rumour on the grapevine was that they'd never sell and the intention was to pass the Club down through the generations etc etc.

That might have changed with the advent of the Court case, their attitude to funding us certainly has.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Id assume he must be older than University age by now.

I met a very polite young lad briefly a few years ago who I was led to believe was Mrs. D's son. Not sure if it was the same person but if not again he'd be a similar sort of age as well.

Certainly as at three or four years ago rumour on the grapevine was that they'd never sell and the intention was to pass the Club down through the generations etc etc.

That might have changed with the advent of the Court case, their attitude to funding us certainly has.

The court case has made them even less interested in funding us, but they hadnt been in the years before aside from merely offsetting the losses. We hadnt been reinvesting.

[RevidgeBlue]

56 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The court case has made them even less interested in funding us, but they hadnt been in the years before aside from merely offsetting the losses. We hadnt been reinvesting.

Apart from in the periods we identified yesterday.

Even outside of that we were still bringing in plenty of cheaper signings and many people on loan. Some good mostly bad. It wasn't like it's been the last couple of years.

As you keep complaining about, we resisted the opportunity to sell Rothwell and Brereton in the hope it would enable us to secure promotion. On the other hand we couldn't wait to get Adam Wharton out of the door to pay the bills.

There's been a massive sea change.

[roversfan99]

16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Apart from in the periods we identified yesterday.

Even outside of that we were still bringing in plenty of cheaper signings and many people on loan. Some good mostly bad. It wasn't like it's been the last couple of years.

As you keep complaining about, we resisted the opportunity to sell Rothwell and Brereton in the hope it would enable us to secure promotion. On the other hand we couldn't wait to get Adam Wharton out of the door to pay the bills.

There's been a massive sea change.

We have been signing loads of players under the loans/freebies/very cheap deal bracket even since the court case.

As I said the other day, we havent signed a player for over £2m since 2019. We sold Armstrong and saw nothing reinvested. Covid and FFP were the excuses prior to the court case. Either way, during a number of years before and after the start of the court case, they have merely being offsetting the losses, not actively funding any sort of progression on the field.

I feel like people put too much onus on the court case as if the owners will start putting money into players, even though they werent before anyway. Everyone gets themselves into a frenzy as to when the next hearing is and I dont get it. Even if it actually got heard, I dont forsee any changes.

[RevidgeBlue]

40 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We have been signing loads of players under the loans/freebies/very cheap deal bracket even since the court case.

As I said the other day, we havent signed a player for over £2m since 2019. We sold Armstrong and saw nothing reinvested. Covid and FFP were the excuses prior to the court case. Either way, during a number of years before and after the start of the court case, they have merely being offsetting the losses, not actively funding any sort of progression on the field.

I feel like people put too much onus on the court case as if the owners will start putting money into players, even though they werent before anyway. Everyone gets themselves into a frenzy as to when the next hearing is and I dont get it. Even if it actually got heard, I dont forsee any changes.

In general seems to be a case of one in one out these days. In the past we used to stockpile (generally useless) players like there was no tomorrow and never used to cut anyone adrift.

I remember calculating we had 14 midfielders at one point under Mowbray.

[broadsword]

Will these leeches be gone before I pop my clogs? I'm fifty two now, so say in next thirty or so years. 

I need to know. If they're still going to be here when I'm gone, then it's maybe time to fold up the tent

[Herbie6590]

The latest BRFC accounts are out. The numbers are interesting but as always the words are more interesting…

[Wheelton Blue]

So basically they'll just keep the lights on through continual cost cutting and player sales.

Great.

[Salgados Hair]

"We must thank the Owners for their continued and steadfast support of the club"

[47er]

Looking really grim eh? They'll continue to fund us but at what level? 1st Division would be my guess.

And what's all this about "even in the event that the bank facility is not renewed"?

Since they are reputedly billionaires why are they  bothered abut what banks will do or not do?

Bunch of charlatans.

 

 

[lraC]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

The latest BRFC accounts are out. The numbers are interesting but as always the words are more interesting…

So the paragraph that starts the directors are pleased to confirm, that the ED issued a certificate of no object, tells us exactly what I have stated already today on another thread. Waggott has stated that there is no impediment to the owners funding, but here we have it in the accounts, that there is indeed, one hell of a big impediment.

 

[TheRevAshton]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

The latest BRFC accounts are out. The numbers are interesting but as always the words are more interesting…

"The amount of additional funding required will be dependent on the net proceeds of any player trading"

At any other Club this would actually be perfectly reasonable, and inline with the Brentford model;

- Snap up a player with high potential (or bring them through the Academy).
- Use and improve them, then sell them on for a big profit.
- Reinvest a good chunk of that on replacement(s).
- Use the difference towards bills for the Club.
- Rinse and repeat.

Would have absolutely no problem with that... it'd work wonders for the Club, the playing squad, and the owners.

However, this is the Venky's we're dealing with - they use practically every penny from player sales towards the bills, and reinvest absolutely shag all... considering how successful they've been in the world of business, they're fucking idiots.