Venky’s v Indian Government (a) - 5/8/25 - Perennially Re-Arranged Challenge Match

[broadsword]

7 hours ago, KentExile said:

20th

Ta

[Leonard Venkhater]

On 28/07/2024 at 16:46, Exiled_Rover said:

It's always produced players sound enough for the Championship.

The difference is we used to be in the Premier League - so it required a talent at the level of Taylor / Dunn / Duff et al to make a mark.

The bar to getting into our First Team squad used to be much higher. 

Hmm..You could almost think it was deliberate plan to relegate us to the second tier, so that the academy could make up half the first team..

[tomphil]

4 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Hmm..You could almost think it was deliberate plan to relegate us to the second tier, so that the academy could make up half the first team..

I think the recent signings have put that one to bed, for now, however i personally reckon a few inside Ewood would go down that road if they could.

[Leonard Venkhater]

16 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I think the recent signings have put that one to bed, for now, however i personally reckon a few inside Ewood would go down that road if they could.

Do you think the recent signings actually signal a desire to get the club back to the premier league?

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, Leonard Venkhater said:

Do you think the recent signings actually signal a desire to get the club back to the premier league?

no,venkys have no intention of ever getting us promoted,past seasons have illustrated that,build a decent side,threaten the top six then get your budget cut and prospective signings mysteriously curtailed by "i.t mishaps"

[Leonard Venkhater]

9 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

no,venkys have no intention of ever getting us promoted,past seasons have illustrated that,build a decent side,threaten the top six then get your budget cut and prospective signings mysteriously curtailed by "i.t mishaps"

Yeah, it was a rhetorical question...

[lraC]

On 01/08/2024 at 08:38, Upside Down said:

Thanks for that.

I saw that in the minutes. They can't hide from the truth so having it all there in black and white is a good resource I reckon.

Still more to put in there but I've got the bulk down.

When completed, given that he is now communicating, it needs putting in front of Pasha, for his comments. 

[tomphil]

52 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Do you think the recent signings actually signal a desire to get the club back to the premier league?

Not by any stretch of the imagination.

[glen9mullan]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Do you think the recent signings actually signal a desire to get the club back to the premier league?

My belief is Waggott is leaving this season, retiring with a extremely good pension (clubs contribution is mental).

So model is clear , which he is driving.

Spend as little as possible, (these 1 year deals ain't his problem when he rides off).keep supporter base quiet, as next seasons mess will see the chickens come home to roost.

Suhail,  similar on a kings ransom , zero pressure here or in india to do anything bar ensure lights stay on.

This is representative of a coaching model, where the manager coaches what he is given with no clear targets for achievement.

Remember since these two been running the show, they ain't sacked a manager, both have resigned!!!

End of season a new smuck arrives and repeat repeat.

The protests in the stands last season nearly saw Waggott depart, he openly stated to me maybe its time to go home. Whoever persuaded him to stay I don't know, as he was beaten. It won't take much to push both these out and at that point I think the for sale sign goes up.

 

Edited August 4, 2024 by glen9mullan

[Mattyblue]

To be fair under these owners only one manager (Coyle) has been sacked since 2015 and that was far too late.

Edited August 5, 2024 by Mattyblue

[tomphil]

I do see some of the problems under Waggot as an inability and lack of desire to manage upwards. How much that has played a part is hard to tell given what he works under and the shadow man will no doubt remain so the next one in will just have to keep the lights on as well.

Waggot has had the luxury of working under an ownership under writing whatever losses every season yet he has still squeezed the club as much as possible however the next one in will not have that luxury.

Hate to say it but it's likely to be worse.

[Rogerb]

Is it coincidence Suhail agrees to meet WATR two weeks before the court date?

[RoversClitheroe]

1 hour ago, Rogerb said:

Is it coincidence Suhail agrees to meet WATR two weeks before the court date?

Let's see what the trust say. All very interesting.

[simongarnerisgod]

16 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

My belief is Waggott is leaving this season, retiring with a extremely good pension (clubs contribution is mental).

So model is clear , which he is driving.

Spend as little as possible, (these 1 year deals ain't his problem when he rides off).keep supporter base quiet, as next seasons mess will see the chickens come home to roost.

Suhail,  similar on a kings ransom , zero pressure here or in india to do anything bar ensure lights stay on.

This is representative of a coaching model, where the manager coaches what he is given with no clear targets for achievement.

Remember since these two been running the show, they ain't sacked a manager, both have resigned!!!

End of season a new smuck arrives and repeat repeat.

The protests in the stands last season nearly saw Waggott depart, he openly stated to me maybe its time to go home. Whoever persuaded him to stay I don't know, as he was beaten. It won't take much to push both these out and at that point I think the for sale sign goes up.

 

he must have a bigger egotistical personality,bigger than i first imagined because it was`nt much of a protest,couple of  banners and a smattering of w*****r chants,imagine his mental state if we actively parade around the executive entrance shouting and waving placards,he`ll turn to blancmange and resign in an instant😁

[Devon Rover]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he must have a bigger egotistical personality,bigger than i first imagined because it was`nt much of a protest,couple of  banners and a smattering of w*****r chants,imagine his mental state if we actively parade around the executive entrance shouting and waving placards,he`ll turn to blancmange and resign in an instant😁

It's a solid plan.

[Waggy76]

8 hours ago, Rogerb said:

Is it coincidence Suhail agrees to meet WATR two weeks before the court date?

But will he turn up at the said meeting??

[toogs]

23 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

But will he turn up at the said meeting??

He did apparently

[RoversClitheroe]

8 days til the court case

[Crimpshrine]

Thursday is Independence Day in India - celebrating the end of British rule.

I am hoping Rovers soon see the end of Indian rule. Fingers crossed.

[Upside Down]

Under the pump at the moment but I'll add a few more updates to the timeline and re-up it.

[philipl]

With the Szmodics sale and the new EPL Sky deal, administration is now two years away at the earliest.

Either 10m is committed in new player wages, transfer fees and loan fees in the coming two weeks or the signal has come from Pune that funding for Rovers is at an end irrespective of what Waggott and co say.

So

would we prefer Rovers making a reasonable splash in the transfer market

or confirmation Venky's have had enough? 

 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

You know what's coming...'postponed till March 2025'

AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!😠

[JHRover]

I suspect that with another £15 million landing from Raya and Szmodics this will negate the need for Venkys to send money from India.

Convenient, and will enable them to kick the can down the road on the court proceedings hoping that by the time this money runs out there is someone else to sell. 

[booth]

57 minutes ago, philipl said:

With the Szmodics sale and the new EPL Sky deal, administration is now two years away at the earliest.

Either 10m is committed in new player wages, transfer fees and loan fees in the coming two weeks or the signal has come from Pune that funding for Rovers is at an end irrespective of what Waggott and co say.

So

would we prefer Rovers making a reasonable splash in the transfer market

or confirmation Venky's have had enough? 

 

I'd take short term suffering over long term suffering. So I'd prefer Venkys to go.

[Crimpshrine]

12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I suspect that with another £15 million landing from Raya and Szmodics this will negate the need for Venkys to send money from India.

Convenient, and will enable them to kick the can down the road on the court proceedings hoping that by the time this money runs out there is someone else to sell. 

Exactly - Even if the Courts don't give permission to send funds without associated bonds, they don't need to worry. The club can 'wash it's own face'.

In the future, when cash runs short, if there is nobody else to sell they will just resume drip feeding us into oblivion.