Venky’s v Indian Government (a) - 5/8/25 - Perennially Re-Arranged Challenge Match

[ben_the_beast]

Well that's unsurprising. Another promotion opportunity will drift away. 

The summer is when this is really going to begin to bite though. We're becoming asset poor. A generational talent is the only reason we've stumbled on this long. There is no way we can continue long term with zero funding.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Well I never...BOOM! and there you go.

We might get a hearing around 2035.Sit tight folks.

Edited January 13 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're having a fun morning!

What number are we? 60?

And what time is it there? Nailed on for another adjournment?

I know we're biased and think this case should be prioritised - but this is at least the second time we've been waaaaaaay down the list in the court, to the extent where there was clearly no way they were going to get to us.

Meanwhile a historic institution is bleeding out in Lancashire. 

I hate everything about this. 

[G Somerset Rover]

46 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

Well that's unsurprising. Another promotion opportunity will drift away. 

The summer is when this is really going to begin to bite though. We're becoming asset poor. A generational talent is the only reason we've stumbled on this long. There is no way we can continue long term with zero funding.

Yep. We’ll find out in the summer just how much the likes of Waggott have been lying. There’s no Wharton or Szmodics this time round to pay the bills.

Edited January 13 by G Somerset Rover

[Herbie6590]

41 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:

Yep. We’ll find out in the summer just how much the likes of Waggott have been lying. There’s no Wharton or Szmodics this time round to pay the bills.

With the Wharton, Szmodics & Raya cash, I think we’re probably good until 2026 - assuming we spend nowt. 
So 2026 it is. 

[OldEwoodBlue]

Still unable to fund the club (in spite of club propoganda).

Club self funding (what they wanted anyway).

But now we have nobody to sell so when the money runs out, hopefully they will fuck off.

One way or another, the eventual outcome will be the same.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Still unable to fund the club (in spite of club propoganda).

Club self funding (what they wanted anyway).

But now we have nobody to sell so when the money runs out, hopefully they will fuck off.

One way or another, the eventual outcome will be the same.

For "unable" substitute "unwilling".

But as you say either way the eventual outcome is the same.

[wilsdenrover]

As I imagine I was the only person who sat through any of it…

The highlight was a solicitor/barrister getting bollocked for not appearing in person when the judge had requested he do so.

The judge wasn’t buying his my car wouldn’t start excuse 😁😁

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I know we're biased and think this case should be prioritised - but this is at least the second time we've been waaaaaaay down the list in the court, to the extent where there was clearly no way they were going to get to us.

Meanwhile a historic institution is bleeding out in Lancashire. 

I hate everything about this. 

What's mad is we seem to have fallen even further behind in the pecking order since last time. How does that happen? The longer we're waiting, the higher up the list we should go. Wilsden posted previously that it seems to be based on what type of case it is, and that we're a 'final matters' case. But surely we were that last time too, yet our number was much higher up.

[bluebruce]

25 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

As I imagine I was the only person who sat through any of it…

The highlight was a solicitor/barrister getting bollocked for not appearing in person when the judge had requested he do so.

The judge wasn’t buying his my car wouldn’t start excuse 😁😁

I see the judges use the time in court productively then, and that Indian lawyers take everything seriously.

Not sure why you let yourself sit through it mate, there was more chance of Trump deciding today to not bother becoming President after all than there was of our case getting seen.

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

What's mad is we seem to have fallen even further behind in the pecking order since last time. How does that happen? The longer we're waiting, the higher up the list we should go. Wilsden posted previously that it seems to be based on what type of case it is, and that we're a 'final matters' case. But surely we were that last time too, yet our number was much higher up.

I thought we were in the 80s last time and the 30s the time before that.

Not that it seems to make any difference!

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

There was one case in this court today which began in 2012…

I would assume that one has actually had hearings though, and perhaps been complicated and required back and forth.

Ours has been seen once, where funding was approved, and supposedly we believe it's just a case of following that precedent, no?

[bluebruce]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I thought we were in the 80s last time and the 30s the time before that.

Not that it seems to make any difference!

I thought it was 30s last time, but you'll know better, you're tracking it more than most (maybe more than anyone...definitely more than Venkys).

[wilsdenrover]

5 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I thought it was 30s last time, but you'll know better, you're tracking it more than most (maybe more than anyone...definitely more than Venkys).

One of us will be right.

Or maybe not 😁

[wilsdenrover]

9 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I would assume that one has actually had hearings though, and perhaps been complicated and required back and forth.

Ours has been seen once, where funding was approved, and supposedly we believe it's just a case of following that precedent, no?

Quite possibly, I noticed the date but none of the details.

I think ours has been heard twice, but it’s been so long I’m not sure.

The club always refer to following that precedent but they word it as a belief rather than an absolute.

I guess how much confidence someone has in that depends on how much confidence they have in the club/Venkys speaking the truth.

[alcd]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

It sounds like Indian court system is a mess and I wonder how many court cases are they in the system? 

50 million cases in the legal system accord to the Economist. 

[ben_the_beast]

It's been going on so long I can't actually remember when it started. Surely going on 2 years now, right? 

[ben_the_beast]

3 hours ago, G Somerset Rover said:

Yep. We’ll find out in the summer just how much the likes of Waggott have been lying. There’s no Wharton or Szmodics this time round to pay the bills.

Waggott and Co's lies are what makes this all the more infuriating. How he can continue to say the court proceedings have no impact on the running of the club?!?!

Even more infuriating is sections of the fanbase eating it up, and saying we can't compete because of FFP.

[den]

2 hours ago, alcd said:

50 million cases in the legal system accord to the Economist. 

A population of 1.429 billion. 

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, alcd said:

50 million cases in the legal system accord to the Economist. 

woah

[47er]

7 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I know we're biased and think this case should be prioritised - but this is at least the second time we've been waaaaaaay down the list in the court, to the extent where there was clearly no way they were going to get to us.

Meanwhile a historic institution is bleeding out in Lancashire. 

I hate everything about this. 

You're making an assumption that once this case is settled the owners will back us.  I've no such confidence.

No they'll be able to. There's a difference.

[Nipper1875]

4 hours ago, ben_the_beast said:

Waggott and Co's lies are what makes this all the more infuriating. How he can continue to say the court proceedings have no impact on the running of the club?!?!

Even more infuriating is sections of the fanbase eating it up, and saying we can't compete because of FFP.

So called fan groups need to stop being so soft in these meeting the clowns & start putting them under real pressure 

[bluebruce]

14 hours ago, alcd said:

50 million cases in the legal system accord to the Economist. 

Is that per year or currently waiting to be seen?

[wilsdenrover]

Date confirmed as 25th March.

I won’t be posting any further on this thread.

[Angry_Pirate]

I don't mean this disrespectfully or aggressively, but as a genuine question - as members of the Venky's family seem fully dug in to our club.

Who would have to retire, step down - or die - from the family, for Venkys to realistically sell the club - who is the family member(s) that's clinging on and preventing a sale. I can't see them passing us down to their children to inherit many years from now.

Like I said, not a "Let's Kill Venky's" post, more of a what would it actually take for them to sell us at a loss - as a Championship team.

Edited January 14 by Angry_Pirate