BlackburnEnd75 Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 31 minutes ago, Parsonblue said: Sorry, I forgot that everyone has to share your views. Personally, Broughton never convinced me that he was up to bringing the required standard of player on a very limited budget. Managers like Furphy, Lee, Smith, Kendall, Saxton and Don Mackay all had little or no money to spend built decent teams nonetheless. He brought in JDT who for me was the best manager we've had since relagtion from the prem and signed szmodics. He's also being replaced by either waggott or nobody. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CD_93 Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 Says plenty. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomphil Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 So hes had to leave a message on his Linkedin page they couldn't even give the courtesy of the club account. Says everything about these classless tossers. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Rover Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 When it's laid out like that it's hilarious that some people are delighted he's been run out of the club. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsonblue Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 59 minutes ago, JHRover said: It's not a popularity contest. I couldn't care less if someone is aloof if they are good at their job. Too much of this down there. It's why Mowbray was worshipped with his tea and biscuits routine reminiscing about growing up in 70s Middlesbrough and presumably why Waggott has got his feet under the table so comfortably. I honestly don't think GB was very good at his job. As always football is a game of opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Parsonblue said: I honestly don't think GB was very good at his job. As always football is a game of opinions. I agree. Put all the other nonsense to one side, it still doesn't alter the fact that he wasn't up to much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ewood Ace Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: Sorry, I forgot that everyone has to share your views. Personally, Broughton never convinced me that he was up to bringing the required standard of player on a very limited budget. Was Broughton good at his job? I'd say no. Was Gregg Broughton the biggest problem at the club? 100% not Will the club operate any better now Broughton is gone? Not a chance Was the Statement released today regardless of what you think of the job he did totally classless? Yes Does that statement sum up Blackburn Rovers today? Absolutely 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neal Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 (edited) I liked him, seemed ambitious but not given the tools to be successful and as we all know... Ambition isn't liked at Rovers these days. This was seemingly supposed to be a long term project... No we're back to a bunch of Waggot yes men. Makes me sick. Edited May 18, 2024 by Neal 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 Can’t say I particularly rated the bloke, but I don’t think it’s ’nonsense’ to wish the club operated with at least some kind of professionalism. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 waggot appears to have purged all outsiders from power and has parachuted his own yes men into key positions 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoverCanada Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 (edited) Not sure what to make of GB. Ultimately a failed tenure but also so many mitigating circumstances that truly judging him is difficult. Definitely pointed comments in his LinkedIn post about Szmodics and Hyam not already being on our transfer lists before he showed up... whatever GB's merits, you can't have a 'Director of Football' setup where the CEO (or his minions) is apparently happily spreading gossip undermining the DoF's credibility. No surprise SW doesn't get a thank you. I recall reading SW saying that the DoF model was imposed by Venky's and he didn't see the need for it... Probably thinks of himself as a 'football man' and the McGuire fiasco gave him the opportunity to get his mitts back on transfers. On O'Brien/Brierley, perhaps GB should've recognised our admin setup was archaic when he joined (bit of a stretch when we had no such issues the preceding summer window, nor ever before...), but he stood up and took the hit (while SW took until his pre-season interview to acknowledge he had any culpability himself). I understand if you don't want to give GB 'credit' for moves that didn't get over the line, but both would have been astute pick-ups... Such shit happening again with McGuire is unforgivable, but it's well-documented that the deal was pretty much wrapped up the day before, until the usual last minute Venky's intervention (also cited as a regular issue in post-mortems of Mowbray's tenure). Maybe he should've been looking over Sylvester's shoulder when he clicked 'send' (such micro-managing shouldn't be necessary in a competent organisation...), but it never should've been a last minute deal in the first place. I don't buy that concerns were suddenly raised about whether McGuire was worth a ~£2m+ fee (FFS, that's really not that much in today's young strikers market). He's continuing to do well at Orlando and it'll be interesting to see where he does land when he leaves MLS. Also liked the creativity shown in bringing in JDT and taking advantage of 'geopolitical events' to get Siggy on a free. Tronstad's a gem. Did some good work on contract extensions, including doing all he could with the Phillips situation. Ennis and Hirst were duds, all part of a major failure to bring in a striker (was he finally going to rectify that with McGuire??), but he also managed to effectively cut bait on both. Hirst's failure here is increasingly interesting in hindsight. Ennis... a bad move, but given our budget, I can't hate the idea of going for young strikers with some L1 success who are available on a free. Wahlstedt is probably the fatal signing (for both GB and JDT). I admittedly thought it looked like a decent bit of a business: make a profit on TK (regrettably, but it's really difficult to stand in the way of a PL move) and bring in a young GK on the fringes of the Swedish team who clearly has some talent (if ultimately looking to be a flawed keeper)... I can't hate the thought process, but a scouting failure that greatly contributed to our doomed season. I'm probably being too kind/slanted on some of the above, but I'm certainly not optimistic about where things go from here (I have a post from a while ago expressing worry if we suddenly find ourselves with JDT/GB gone and SW and co. still in situ... bah, it's all fucking Venky's fault anyway). Edited May 18, 2024 by RoverCanada 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Mellelieu Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 A shameful statement from Rovers, whatever you think of GB's tenure. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arbitro Posted May 18, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 1 hour ago, CD_93 said: Says plenty. He thanks lots of people but omits the likes of Waggott, Suhail and the owners. To me that speaks volumes and indicates who the real problems at the club are. 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesus Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 7 minutes ago, arbitro said: He thanks lots of people but omits the likes of Waggott, Suhail and the owners. To me that speaks volumes and indicates who the real problems at the club are. I thought exactly the same, as we all very much know. The nameless are the stumbling blocks to our growth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 30 minutes ago, arbitro said: He thanks lots of people but omits the likes of Waggott, Suhail and the owners. To me that speaks volumes and indicates who the real problems at the club are. i didn`t think greg was up to much but he pales into insignificance compared to swag,venkys and suhail,the club is rotting away with those three 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Parsonblue said: I honestly don't think GB was very good at his job. As always football is a game of opinions. You might well be right, I really don't know the bloke or think it is fair to judge him on 3.5 windows mostly of fiasco and drastic cuts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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imy9 Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 I think Gregg did a brilliant job in getting players signed up to long term deals- this will come in handy moving forward. His transfers are mixed- however ultimately there were far too many duds, especially with the loans. The statement on the website says a lot about how he left, class less in my opinion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Popular Post DE. Posted May 18, 2024 Backroom Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2024 The club statement is exactly what I'd expect based on the people in charge. Gregg's statement on LinkedIn has a lot packed between the lines, arguably expressing more in what he didn't say. As far as leading a football department being "the most privileged job anyone could ever have" ? Jeez, people in football really do live in one hell of a bubble. I find it pretty difficult to judge GB's tenure here simply because of the incompetence and chaos above him. Now granted anyone who comes in at this point in time should be well aware of what Venky Rovers are all about (JDT included), but still, I have some sympathy - especially when it comes to last summer's window. With that said, no excuse for what happened in January with the supposed 'error' on hitting send. After last year Gregg should literally have been over Silvester's shoulder as he was doing it, then double checking everything was OK again before the deadline. After what had happened the year before, it's inexcusable for anyone in a position of responsibility to be ordering curry and celebrating two hours before the deadline and apparently trusting the same people who fucked up so badly just a year prior. I can't excuse that and to me it's tantamount to gross negligence - not just from GB, but he's included in that. Could very well have cost us our position in the division and nearly did. Ultimately JDT and GB never stood a chance. Nobody will until Venky's are gone. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethnal Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 As fans, transfers are probably what cause the most excitement/consternation, but a DoF isn’t solely judged on them, so he’s right to put his record down in a public forum, because I believe it stacks up. Equally, as fans, we’re entitled to our opinions and I know some disagree with mine. After a point, we’re all working with the same information, so it’s fully subjective. Interesting, though, that a club employee had their say in the comments below his post (see image attached). There’s something in this that strikes a bit of fear into me, when combined with the retained list announced today (John Fleck earning probably £450k for 17 mins of football simply cannot justify an extension). I believe we’re much worse off with Waggott and Pasha tasked with the day-to-day footballing operations. Absolutely nobody fighting for a budget, trying to build a long-term strategy on the pitch/in the academy or nurturing the footballing side. Waggott has had all the time in the world to develop the commercial strategy (his main remit) over the past two seasons and it’s now somehow worse. Nobody should be celebrating this sacking, really, at the very least because of what it means: Waggott telling the owners that a DoF isn’t necessary/didn’t work and handing out contracts to The Boys. We’re not far from him trying to flog Brockhall again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 4 hours ago, Paul Mellelieu said: A shameful statement from Rovers, whatever you think of GB's tenure. Agreed. I’m afraid the club is in the hands of disgusting people, and it’s sickening. It’s time for the fans groups to stop appeasing Waggott. They should simply tell him to do one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 8 hours ago, Parsonblue said: Sorry, I forgot that everyone has to share your views. Personally, Broughton never convinced me that he was up to bringing the required standard of player on a very limited budget. Managers like Furphy, Lee, Smith, Kendall, Saxton and Don Mackay all had little or no money to spend built decent teams nonetheless. The managers you have cited didn't have the upper management of the club actively working against them. It not my 'view' that there were four transfers sabotaged by those above him, that actually happened. And that's just ones we know about. Impossible to judge whether he was good or bad in those circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 I always liked Gregg and felt he got some unfair criticism from some on here. Yes, you can point to some of his transfers being duds, but you have to consider the lack of backing and the sabotaged transfers (O'Brien, McGuire, Brierley, possibly Undav, etc). Between GB and JTD we clearly had some ambition and a strategy to make the club better. Sadly, the people higher up in the food chain didn't share those traits. Very interesting note he makes on Szmodics and Hyam. And if true - which we have no reason to believe otherwise - it means that Waggott has lied directly to the faces of fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 Sad to see the only guy with a plan at the club let go. A pointless position though when he was given 50p to work with. Anyone who thinks Waggot is gonna do half the job Broughton did is living in cloud cuckoo land. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams of 1995 Posted May 18, 2024 Share Posted May 18, 2024 9 hours ago, Upside Down said: What a ridiculous statement. Shows how little you understand about what has gone on at this club. Behave yourself. Parsonblue can speak for himself, but it is clear he has been supporting this club for many a year through thick and thin. He’s been posting on this site for years and is contributions have been excellent To be fairly honest you are quite a terrible poster. I am not against a swear word, but your posts are both ladened with expletives and clearly lacking the awareness that not everybody will agree with you. Wind your neck in and understand that we are all supporters of Rovers here 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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