Gregg Broughton

[NeilInBristol]

9 hours ago, CD_93 said:

Says plenty.

Thanks for posting. 

Great reading by GB. Fair play he is good at spinning but we did achieve some positive stuff in his time 

[chaddyrovers]

16 hours ago, arbitro said:

He thanks lots of people but omits the likes of Waggott, Suhail and the owners. To me that speaks volumes and indicates who the real problems at the club are.

Yes GB did which shows what GB thinks of owners, Waggott and Pasha, and who wanted rid of him. Plus his role from the first season seems to be reduced in the second season. 

10 hours ago, Andy said:

I always liked Gregg and felt he got some unfair criticism from some on here.

Yes, you can point to some of his transfers being duds, but you have to consider the lack of backing and the sabotaged transfers (O'Brien, McGuire, Brierley, possibly Undav, etc).

Between GB and JTD we clearly had some ambition and a strategy to make the club better.
Sadly, the people higher up in the food chain didn't share those traits.

Very interesting note he makes on Szmodics and Hyam. And if true - which we have no reason to believe otherwise - it means that Waggott has lied directly to the faces of fans.

Just imagine if we would have sign Undav and I'm sure he was the striker we lack for last 3 seasons, we would have made the playoffs for sure. Question is why didn't that happened? not impress with JDT or GB or just didn't want to move up North. Its an area that need to address this summer and Eustace knows this aswell

Also last summer budget change didn't help the situation and it caused us problems with who we wanted to sign striker wise 

I agree with @Paul Manipost he made on Friday night in the transfer thread that Waggott and Pasha decided that they changed personal in the Head coach and DoF roles during the January window. JDT rant post QPR game was when they knew it could done after such a performance and QPR battered us then JDT rant meant his days was numbered. (looking back with hindsight)

 

[Penwortham Blue]

19 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

Coincidentally, I was talking to someone who works in hospitality at Rovers on match days.

She had nothing but kind words to say about JDT and Eustace , who both took time to chat with them and get to know a little about them

GB on the other hand was aloof, completely ignored them and was not liked at all. I think professional courtesy should work both ways, doesn't take much just to acknowledge someone and say hello

From observation alone, her feedback would seem to corroborate my thoughts re: JDT, JE and Greg the 🥚 

[ABBEY]

52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes GB did which shows what GB thinks of owners, Waggott and Pasha, and who wanted rid of him. Plus his role from the first season seems to be reduced in the second season. 

Just imagine if we would have sign Undav and I'm sure he was the striker we lack for last 3 seasons, we would have made the playoffs for sure. Question is why didn't that happened? not impress with JDT or GB or just didn't want to move up North. Its an area that need to address this summer and Eustace knows this aswell

Also last summer budget change didn't help the situation and it caused us problems with who we wanted to sign striker wise 

I agree with @Paul Manipost he made on Friday night in the transfer thread that Waggott and Pasha decided that they changed personal in the Head coach and DoF roles during the January window. JDT rant post QPR game was when they knew it could done after such a performance and QPR battered us then JDT rant meant his days was numbered. (looking back with hindsight)

 

Just imagine if the scum had done what they had promises and not chatted more shite than a coked fury...  Maradona,  Beckham,  rondaldinihio  .. not some poxy undav .

 

End of the day whoever comes in will be a brown nose venky arse picking coward. 

Anyone like JDT or Paul Lambert  who questioned them ultimately gets chastised and snagged off. 

If you don't blow smoke and lick the venkstar the venkys pet rats will report you like a snivelling pathetic grass they are.

How anyone with blue n white in they're veins can sit down and have a chat with anyone at Ewood buggers belief. I'd rather genuinely sit down and have a pint with Gary glitter or rose west.

[martonrover]

9 hours ago, NeilInBristol said:

Thanks for posting. 

Great reading by GB. Fair play he is good at spinning but we did achieve some positive stuff in his time 

I think we’ll see him standing for parliament at the election 😉

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes GB did which shows what GB thinks of owners, Waggott and Pasha, and who wanted rid of him. Plus his role from the first season seems to be reduced in the second season. 

Just imagine if we would have sign Undav and I'm sure he was the striker we lack for last 3 seasons, we would have made the playoffs for sure. Question is why didn't that happened? not impress with JDT or GB or just didn't want to move up North. Its an area that need to address this summer and Eustace knows this aswell

Also last summer budget change didn't help the situation and it caused us problems with who we wanted to sign striker wise 

I agree with @Paul Manipost he made on Friday night in the transfer thread that Waggott and Pasha decided that they changed personal in the Head coach and DoF roles during the January window. JDT rant post QPR game was when they knew it could done after such a performance and QPR battered us then JDT rant meant his days was numbered. (looking back with hindsight)

 

I was wondering what had happened to Undav - on loan at Stuttgart apparently - 18 goals in 29 games. The perfect replacement for Sammi - then I woke up.

[islander200]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was wondering what had happened to Undav - on loan at Stuttgart apparently - 18 goals in 29 games. The perfect replacement for Sammi - then I woke up.

In the German squad for the euros aswell

[chaddyrovers]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was wondering what had happened to Undav - on loan at Stuttgart apparently - 18 goals in 29 games. The perfect replacement for Sammi - then I woke up.

Undav has been excellent this season. 

As for a replacement, I would go for Harvey Knibbs from Reading who can score goals, assists and press from the front, but we need more goals from all areas and goalscorer striker or 2 would help aswell  

[Mercer]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Undav has been excellent this season. 

As for a replacement, I would go for Harvey Knibbs from Reading who can score goals, assists and press from the front, but we need more goals from all areas and goalscorer striker or 2 would help aswell  

Chaddy, with your encyclopedic knowledge of football and suggestions of new players by the barrow load, why don't you go and see your mate Waggott again and tell him your his next DOF?

[roversfan99]

Harvey Knibbs and Miyoshi are this seasons Rhys Healey.

[RevidgeBlue]

On 18/05/2024 at 14:13, Parsonblue said:

I honestly don't think GB was very good at his job.  As always football is a game of opinions.

Completely agree Parson.

In fact "not very good at his job" I think is doing him somewhat of a favour.

World class bullshitter, but an absolute disaster in the job, 3  strikers signed without a single goal between them, Wahlstedt, the two unprecedented transfer window cock ups, failing to tie Phillips down to a worthwhile contract, and a fairly derisory sum realised for the brilliant Adam Wharton.

Says it all when he's crowing about a "record sale" on a  player he inherited.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let him go and chat **** and sell everything that moves somewhere else.

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Completely agree Parson.

In fact "not very good at his job" I think is doing him somewhat of a favour.

World class bullshitter, but an absolute disaster in the job, 3  strikers signed without a single goal between them, Wahlstedt, the two unprecedented transfer window cock ups, failing to tie Phillips down to a worthwhile contract, and a fairly derisory sum realised for the brilliant Adam Wharton.

Says it all when he's crowing about a "record sale" on a  player he inherited.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let him go and chat **** and sell everything that moves somewhere else.

You are entitled to your opinion about the man but some of this strikes me as complete nonsense. I very much doubt he had anything to do with negotiating the fee for Wharton , and he could have done no more than he did with Phillips where the club had literally no negotiating position given that the way the rules work the player could have walked away for nothing.

[Mattyblue]

Obviously Rev has cherry picked, but there is some truth, Leo for one, I mean, christ.

But yes, AW was a fire sale with the Suhail/Swag axis ensuring our generational talent was flogged to the first bidder so the club could now meet their disgraceful bosses liabilities instead of Pune.

Edited May 20 by Mattyblue

[K-Hod]

Broughton clearly could have done better, but he was nowhere near as much of a problem as Suhail, Waggott, or Venky’s, quite frankly. Very frustrating that the lesser problems get more discussion.

[tomphil]

He had a good grounding in various aspects of football but wasn't experienced or qualified as a DoF so who can be the least bit surprised it was hit and miss.

Just like on the playing side if you operate that cheapo hope for the best model then you have to take the rough with the smooth. He's learning and making his mistakes on the job just like Pears or Leo.

He would have done better with some sensible budget no doubt but he would still have had to source young cheap back up players to polish and sell and he was poor at that.

Flip side of the coin is he could've had millions and wasted that putting us even further in the shite.  Being undermined at every turn though because a pair of power hungry tossers have their noses out of joint was the real problem.

[Dreams of 1995]

There are a lot of ready-made excuses for Broughton. Yet, it all boils down to one thing for me - the team is in a worse place than when he found it. Everything that Tony Mowbray had achieved has gone to wreck and ruin. The only positive is that in doing so it has generated a lot of income for Rovers. It isn't Broughton's fault that he wasn't allowed to spend it

The Lewis O'Brien fiasco probably cost the man his career as a Director of Football. I don't believe for one instance that was his fault. I really do believe he had conspiring forces against him. None more so than Steve Waggott. The behaviour towards the end of JDT and Broughton was quite spectacular - pulling the fans in to meet the players. It really was a show of force from Waggott. For me, it was the end of a promising spell for the club

The players he has brought in has been a real mixed bag. Some of the better players include Tronstad, Szmodics, Hyam. He brought in some astute loans in Morton and James Hill. Then the flip sides: Mola and Koumetio spring to mind. I don't judge Broughton quite as badly as others for Hirst, as he has gone on to show he can cut in the league.

I liked how he acted quickly to move Ennis on. It was probably a gamble worth taking. He never cut the mustard and GB recognised that early on. We never replaced him though and that for me was a mistake.

As I started this post with - before I rambled - Broughton's tenure here has been a real mixed bag but for me will be judged on how he has left us. We have "cash to burn", or so you should think owing the revenue he brought in on player trading, but the squad itself is now down to the bare bones. We have lost all the experience and nous that Mowbray's Rovers squad had. To underline all of that, it is clear Broughton never truly understood how things work at Rovers. Mowbray did. He knew that if you sold a player, you were unlikely to get the money back to reinvest. He never lived by "the model". Broughton tried to. His biggest mistake was ever believing that the Venkys were sincere in their approach and that cost him his job

[martonrover]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Completely agree Parson.

In fact "not very good at his job" I think is doing him somewhat of a favour.

World class bullshitter, but an absolute disaster in the job, 3  strikers signed without a single goal between them, Wahlstedt, the two unprecedented transfer window cock ups, failing to tie Phillips down to a worthwhile contract, and a fairly derisory sum realised for the brilliant Adam Wharton.

Says it all when he's crowing about a "record sale" on a  player he inherited.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let him go and chat **** and sell everything that moves somewhere else.

For me he was just another typical Venkys appointment, ie a blagger who could talk the talk, but woefully under qualified for the very difficult job at hand.

As with anything else, it all comes down to.the owners.

As much as I didn’t like or rate him, I thought the way the club announced his departure (Waggott’s work for sure) was disgusting.

[roversfan99]

As if selling Wharton was an idea of Broughton. It was the owners, solely the owners, needing to drain the club to cover their dodgy doings.

[JHRover]

Mowbray had power and freedom that nobody else has had. I believe that started and ended with the fact that he jetted off to India and sat around in Pune waiting for the ghastly madame to grant him an audience.

His willingness to do this secured him power and finance. Waggott has done the same - he's had jollies out to India over the years and such steps secure you bullet proof status in Venky world. Forget about getting sacked, it isn't happening once you have that personal link with the top dogs.

They might had turned the taps down to a trickle in the last few windows of Mowbray's reign but he was still blessed with relative fortunes compared to what Lambert and Coyle had before him and what JDT and likely Eustace have had after him. No coincidence at all that none of those other four ever (to my knowledge) went out to India and played the 'wonderful kind people' routine.

There was a suggestion early on last summer that Broughton and JDT were being lined up for an India trip. I was encouraged by that because I believe had it happened both would have had considerably greater financial backing and our fortunes could have been very different. it didn't happen in the end and we can only speculate why. Maybe their legal issues in India or maybe a stooge in the shadows operating to ensure they didn't secure such power direct from India and instead had to continue through the 'conduit'.

Matters not the reason, but the outcome is a familiar one.

Mowbray wouldn't have been able to do a fraction of what he did with the resources of the last 2 years. He knew this, which is why he ultimately threw a wobbler and left even though I'm sure had he been patient enough in summer 2022 then they'd have offered him another contract.

JDT, Broughton, Eustace, never stood a chance. Nobody here will under these owners unless they can go straight to the top and get agreement for financial backing from there. Kean knew this. Bowyer knew this. Mowbray knew this. Waggott knows this. That's why they all spent god knows how long sat in airports, planes and hotels in Pune waiting for them to see him. It wasn't for a holiday it was to secure power and money.

[J*B]

5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Completely agree Parson.

In fact "not very good at his job" I think is doing him somewhat of a favour.

World class bullshitter, but an absolute disaster in the job, 3  strikers signed without a single goal between them, Wahlstedt, the two unprecedented transfer window cock ups, failing to tie Phillips down to a worthwhile contract, and a fairly derisory sum realised for the brilliant Adam Wharton.

Says it all when he's crowing about a "record sale" on a  player he inherited.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Let him go and chat **** and sell everything that moves somewhere else.

Out of interest, specifically on the Phillips point, what exactly would you have liked him to do? Phillips was 6 weeks away from walking away for nothing and earning multiple times his salary at Premier League clubs. Rovers were not due a penny and there was nothing we could have done to stop it. He managed to get him to agree to a deal which saw us get 2.5M for him. Quite incredible work in my opinion. 

[lraC]

10 minutes ago, J*B said:

Out of interest, specifically on the Phillips point, what exactly would you have liked him to do? Phillips was 6 weeks away from walking away for nothing and earning multiple times his salary at Premier League clubs. Rovers were not due a penny and there was nothing we could have done to stop it. He managed to get him to agree to a deal which saw us get 2.5M for him. Quite incredible work in my opinion. 

We would have received some compensation for him, but nothing like the £2,5M so I agree it was  pretty incredible and makes the parting shot on the website, even more pathetic.

[NeilInBristol]

14 minutes ago, lraC said:

We would have received some compensation for him, but nothing like the £2,5M so I agree it was  pretty incredible and makes the parting shot on the website, even more pathetic.

They are petty.

He clearly spoke his mind and got stuff done but those around him didn't see his value. 

The project is now survival 

[Ewood Ace]

4 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Everything that Tony Mowbray had achieved has gone to wreck and ruin.

Which was what exactly? Five players were on loan and went back to their parent clubs, the club captain went on a free along with two other regular starters and the biggest asset at the club had one year left on his contract and was clearly not going to sign a new one.

I don't think Broughton did a great job (far from it in fact) but let's not pretend that he inherited anything special.

The first team players we had when he came in were. 

Kaminski

Pears

Carter

Ayala

S.Wharton

Pickering

A. Wharton (Was yet to play for first team)

Buckley

JRC 

Travis

Hedges

Edun

Dack

Brereton

Gallagher

Dolan

Vale

[Dreams of 1995]

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

Which was what exactly? Five players were on loan and went back to their parent clubs, the club captain went on a free along with two other regular starters and the biggest asset at the club had one year left on his contract and was clearly not going to sign a new one.

I don't think Broughton did a great job (far from it in fact) but let's not pretend that he inherited anything special.

The first team players we had when he came in were. 

Kaminski

Pears

Carter

Ayala

S.Wharton

Pickering

A. Wharton (Was yet to play for first team)

Buckley

JRC 

Travis

Hedges

Edun

Dack

Brereton

Gallagher

Dolan

Vale

The team that JDT inherited came from Tony Mowbray. We had the experience of Kaminski, Dack and Ayala to all call on. Carter had come on leaps and bounds under Mowbray and JDT really felt the benefit of that

Plus Brereton, who Mowbray stuck with and nurtured despite all of the criticism he was getting

It's in no doubt that Mowbray left this club in a much better state than when he found it. When JDT came it was like a breath of fresh air, but the foundations on which that season was built on were laid by Mowbray. That is all gone now. We lost what we had and never replaced them properly. The level of experience we have managed to lose since those days is frightening

[Ewood Ace]

2 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

The team that JDT inherited came from Tony Mowbray. We had the experience of Kaminski, Dack and Ayala to all call on. Carter had come on leaps and bounds under Mowbray and JDT really felt the benefit of that

Dack had been out injured for 2 years basically and as he has shown since he is not a Championship level player (probably not even League 1 now sadly) and I think it is fair to say we found a better player in Szmodics. Ayala was injury prone, overpaid and well past his best as has been shown by the fact that the might of Rotherham released him this season.

6 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Plus Brereton, who Mowbray stuck with and nurtured despite all of the criticism he was getting

But Brereton was never going to sign a contract and be here beyond the end of it. And the decision to lose him for nothing rather than sold for a fee I suspect went above Broughton.