Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted April 24, 2024 Moderation Lead Share Posted April 24, 2024 You just know PNE will turn into Brazil 1970 against Leicester…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SBlue Posted April 24, 2024 Share Posted April 24, 2024 Either way they put 5+ past us. No pressure but a big prize on the line, or if they're really going for it. It'll be like watching the Harlem Bloody Globetrotters. I really think our goose is cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger19_80 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 Well the bookies seem quite confident... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted April 27, 2024 Backroom Share Posted April 27, 2024 Honestly amazing what Rohl has done at Sheffield Wednesday. They'd only won a single match all season before beating our lot on December 2nd. They've gained 40 points since then. We've managed 22. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 We should just survive but Id love to know how many teams showing our form over the latter half of a season have stayed up the next year. Must be tiny. (If you extrapolate that last 50% of gaes over a full season its around 37 points.....) Im very much a glass half full person but it's very hard to not conclude we are done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: We should just survive but Id love to know how many teams showing our form over the latter half of a season have stayed up the next year. Must be tiny. (If you extrapolate that last 50% of gaes over a full season its around 37 points.....) Im very much a glass half full person but it's very hard to not conclude we are done. In the second half of the season we have 19 points (obviously with one to play) Last year QPR stayed up despite only getting 16 points from the last 23 games The year before Reading stayed up having got 20 points The year before that Bristol City stayed up having got 18 points I haven’t looked any further back but it would appear to be a surprisingly regular occurrence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted April 27, 2024 Backroom Share Posted April 27, 2024 If we sell Sammie and continue to shop around the bargain basement then we're doing a Rotherham next season. Will be brutal. Venky's have been fortunate to have somebody step up each time a top goalscorer has left - Graham > Arma > BBD > Szmodics. Nobody from this squad is stepping up next season - I'm sure of that - and based on the dross our recruitment team has signed for the forward position on little-to-no budget I do not foresee a rabbit being pulled out of the hat by Broughton and co. So our only hope would be having some money available to invest in the team. If there's a small amount available and the recruitment team do better than identifying the likes of Leo for £800k type fees then maybe we scrape another season. Or maybe we don't. Ultimately the only way we genuinely progress is for Venky's to sell up, which seems like a distant dream at this point. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchrover Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 24 minutes ago, DE. said: If we sell Sammie and continue to shop around the bargain basement then we're doing a Rotherham next season. Will be brutal. Venky's have been fortunate to have somebody step up each time a top goalscorer has left - Graham > Arma > BBD > Szmodics. Nobody from this squad is stepping up next season - I'm sure of that - and based on the dross our recruitment team has signed for the forward position on little-to-no budget I do not foresee a rabbit being pulled out of the hat by Broughton and co. So our only hope would be having some money available to invest in the team. If there's a small amount available and the recruitment team do better than identifying the likes of Leo for £800k type fees then maybe we scrape another season. Or maybe we don't. Ultimately the only way we genuinely progress is for Venky's to sell up, which seems like a distant dream at this point. The Armstrong and Wharton money needs investing. We must be well within the limits of FFP having spent about 20p during the last few seasons. Failure to invest is seeing us dropping into League 2. This squad isn’t good enough for the Championship, as it stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted April 27, 2024 Backroom Share Posted April 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, scotchrover said: The Armstrong and Wharton money needs investing. We must be well within the limits of FFP having spent about 20p during the last few seasons. Failure to invest is seeing us dropping into League 2. This squad isn’t good enough for the Championship, as it stands. Agreed, if Sammie hadn't had a once in a career season we'd already be relegated. Probably not too long after Rotherham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 37 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: In the second half of the season we have 19 points (obviously with one to play) Last year QPR stayed up despite only getting 16 points from the last 23 games The year before Reading stayed up having got 20 points The year before that Bristol City stayed up having got 18 points I haven’t looked any further back but it would appear to be a surprisingly regular occurrence. This is the kind of research that I come to BRFCS for. Strong work! Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcd Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, scotchrover said: The Armstrong and Wharton money needs investing. We must be well within the limits of FFP having spent about 20p during the last few seasons. Failure to invest is seeing us dropping into League 2. This squad isn’t good enough for the Championship, as it stands. The club makes an annyal operating loss of about £20m before transfers. Without funding from India the transfer income is paying the wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie6590 Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 I’m still standing by this…😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 Just putting my tinfoil hat on for a moment. I have a feeling that someone in India has looked at the numbers and decided a league one club or lower will be cheaper than a championship one. The initial loss of 10million will be offset by the fire sale in the summer and after that the losses will be affordable for venkys. This relegation is 100% deliberate. This is the second time they've done this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: In the second half of the season we have 19 points (obviously with one to play) Last year QPR stayed up despite only getting 16 points from the last 23 games The year before Reading stayed up having got 20 points The year before that Bristol City stayed up having got 18 points I haven’t looked any further back but it would appear to be a surprisingly regular occurrence. Summary: 1. We stay up due to the points earned early on by JDT before he threw his toys out of the pram and the players, led by the crybabies Wharton, Brittain and Hyam went on strike. 2. Eustace would relegate us over a full season. 3. JDT smiles. He thwarted the Waggott led relegation drive. Edited April 27, 2024 by AllRoverAsia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 32 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: Summary: 1. We stay up due to the points earned early on by JDT before he threw his toys out of the pram and the players, led by the crybabies Wharton, Brittain and Hyam went on strike. 2. Eustace would relegate us over a full season. 3. JDT smiles. He thwarted the Waggott VENKYS led relegation drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted April 27, 2024 Share Posted April 27, 2024 3 hours ago, DE. said: So our only hope would be having some money available to invest in the team. If there's a small amount available and the recruitment team do better than identifying the likes of Leo for £800k type fees then maybe we scrape another season. Or maybe we don't. Ultimately the only way we genuinely progress is for Venky's to sell up, which seems like a distant dream at this point. Don't you know we've got the lifts in the BBE to repair this summer? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 2 hours ago, alcd said: The club makes an annyal operating loss of about £20m before transfers. Without funding from India the transfer income is paying the wages. The question is why. Nobody else makes this loss to exist in the Championship. So why do Rovers??? When we have the answer to that we can't get any further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 3 hours ago, DE. said: If we sell Sammie and continue to shop around the bargain basement then we're doing a Rotherham next season. Will be brutal. Venky's have been fortunate to have somebody step up each time a top goalscorer has left - Graham > Arma > BBD > Szmodics. Nobody from this squad is stepping up next season - I'm sure of that - You can feel sure of that, but you can't actually be sure of that. We have said this after all of the departures you mentioned, and yet somebody always has. You do feel like eventually that luck has to run out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Herbie6590 said: I’m still standing by this…😳 I'm still standing by what I've been saying for about 3 weeks I think. We'll scrape up by the skin of our balls, primarily because other teams around us suck, and go down next season. We might enter the bottom 3 briefly on the final day, but I don't see it very likely we go down. Only need one of three shit teams to fuck up. Two of them need at least a win, too. Those same two have LL and DD results from their previous two games. Edited April 28, 2024 by bluebruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost7 Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 18 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I'm still standing by what I've been saying for about 3 weeks I think. We'll scrape up by the skin of our balls, primarily because other teams around us suck, and go down next season. We might enter the bottom 3 briefly on the final day, but I don't see it very likely we go down. Only need one of three shit teams to fuck up. Two of them need at least a win, too. Those same two have LL and DD results from their previous two games. All are due a win then 🙂 It can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 6 hours ago, JHRover said: Don't you know we've got the lifts in the BBE to repair this summer? They’ll keep the money to one side until the transfer window closes then decide it’s fine just to use the stairs instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, JHRover said: The question is why. Nobody else makes this loss to exist in the Championship. So why do Rovers??? When we have the answer to that we can't get any further. I can’t find more up to date figures but in: 2019/2020 championship clubs lost £443m (an average of £18.45m) 2020/2021 they lost £400m (£16.6m) Clearly that doesn’t show ‘who lost what’ but it does seem to indicate our losses aren’t out of the ordinary for the division. Of course we all know our losses could have been much lower if our senior management/owners weren’t so incompetent. Edited April 28, 2024 by wilsdenrover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 5 hours ago, bluebruce said: I'm still standing by what I've been saying for about 3 weeks I think. We'll scrape up by the skin of our balls, primarily because other teams around us suck, and go down next season. We might enter the bottom 3 briefly on the final day, but I don't see it very likely we go down. Only need one of three shit teams to fuck up. Two of them need at least a win, too. Those same two have LL and DD results from their previous two games. Sammie’s balls, the rest don’t have any. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted April 28, 2024 Backroom Share Posted April 28, 2024 We think we are going down because we are Rovers fans and in synch with how bad we are. Plymouth and Birmingham fans will be thinking the same thing I think only Sheffield Wednesday fans will be confident. We expect Plymouth and Birmingham to win and whilst they have home advantage they aren’t easy games and haven’t been winning for a reason, they’ll look at us and think it’s not impossible for a point against a team in celebration mode. There’s also the possibility that if Leicester draw tomorrow and Ipswich win their game in hand then they need a point to confirm the title and we need a point to survive. From the outside I’d not expect blood and thunder if that was the scenario, similar to United at Ewood 15 years or so back. The other factor is we can survive by losing, non of us expect Sunderland to beat Wednesday but it’s not inconceivable. The odds are in our favour - so why do I still expect us to be relegated? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted April 28, 2024 Share Posted April 28, 2024 History is full of irony, BRFC has a great history. We missed the playoffs on goal difference in 2023, if we go down in 2024 it will be on goal difference. Also the Norwich manager has a history of playing a weakened team, when he was at Huddersfield, to our disadvantage in 2017. I’ve no doubt he will do the same at Birmingham now that his team are definitely in the playoffs. Our only hope is Hull getting something at Plymouth. The omens aren’t good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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