Rover8T4 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, Miller11 said: McGuire deal apparently back on. There’ll be plenty of backtracking and even more criticism of anyone who dared question the commitment and competence of Venky’s or anyone employed by them. Won't backtrack on anything, They are incompetent and out of depth 7 Quote
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Exiled_Rover Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal. His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down. Quote
alex l Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1753067548147659251?s=20 1 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 To be fair the vast majority of meltdown and drama was on here, we have no idea what it actually looked like or what the problems were/weren't within the inner machinations of the club! History would point to it being incompetence/V's interference or a combination of both but we just don't know 5 Quote
Browjd Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 IF he does come, he automatically gets fan's favourite tag.... 1 Quote
sparky12 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal. His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down. He's apparently on $1200 p/w back home, I'd be sticking around as long as possible. 3 Quote
Torgeir Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal. His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down. The circumstances will be out of GB and JDTs hands. If McGuire is convinced they want him, then it's easy to look past what happened earlier. Plus if the Owls are his only option, I know what I'd choose if I was him 😉 Quote
Paul Mani Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said: McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal. His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down. What if, what if…we actually did just inform them that the Wharton cash hadn’t landed, so they (DM and entourage) holed up waiting for the call and now the money has landed, so it’s back on? 1 Quote
Polky Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 (edited) If wonder if Gregg will take McGuire for a meal in Manchester first? Or will it be a meal deal? Gregg’s meal deal choice is definitely a ham sandwich, ready salted crisps and a water. Edited February 1, 2024 by Polky 3 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: What if, what if…we actually did just inform them that the Wharton cash hadn’t landed, so they (DM and entourage) holed up waiting for the call and now the money has landed, so it’s back on? He was in Sheffield mate. Quote
Guest Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 Just now, Lancaster Rover said: To be fair the vast majority of meltdown and drama was on here, we have no idea what it actually looked like or what the problems were/weren't within the inner machinations of the club! History would point to it being incompetence/V's interference or a combination of both but we just don't know Since last night, it seems that the delay in the Wharton deal was an attempt by Rovers to get Wharton back on loan for the remainder of the season. Nothing wrong with trying that and, in fact, it probably what everyone at the club hoped for. The other report is that McGuire was advised to not fly over due to the ongoing negotiation over the Wharton deal, but that he wanted to anyway. Worst thing for McGuire is he'd speak to one or two other Championship clubs and potentially get a deal, or just go back to Orlando. But it sounds like we were (and maybe still are) McGuire's first choice, hence why talks have resumed now that the Wharton deal is finalised. Seems straightforward to me. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 Just now, Rover8T4 said: Loyalty bonus. Rovers really are dumb 3 Quote
ABBEY Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 9 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: What about MILF’s only ? That would lighten my depression. More trouble than venkys them 2 Quote
Miller11 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, goozburger said: Since last night, it seems that the delay in the Wharton deal was an attempt by Rovers to get Wharton back on loan for the remainder of the season. Nothing wrong with trying that and, in fact, it probably what everyone at the club hoped for. The other report is that McGuire was advised to not fly over due to the ongoing negotiation over the Wharton deal, but that he wanted to anyway. Worst thing for McGuire is he'd speak to one or two other Championship clubs and potentially get a deal, or just go back to Orlando. But it sounds like we were (and maybe still are) McGuire's first choice, hence why talks have resumed now that the Wharton deal is finalised. Seems straightforward to me. If we’d told him not to bother flying out we’ve given up any chance of him signing though. We couldn’t exactly ring him this afternoon and ask him just to nip across the Atlantic so sign his paperwork and do his medical. Edited February 1, 2024 by Miller11 1 Quote
martonrover Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, goozburger said: Since last night, it seems that the delay in the Wharton deal was an attempt by Rovers to get Wharton back on loan for the remainder of the season. Nothing wrong with trying that and, in fact, it probably what everyone at the club hoped for. The other report is that McGuire was advised to not fly over due to the ongoing negotiation over the Wharton deal, but that he wanted to anyway. Worst thing for McGuire is he'd speak to one or two other Championship clubs and potentially get a deal, or just go back to Orlando. But it sounds like we were (and maybe still are) McGuire's first choice, hence why talks have resumed now that the Wharton deal is finalised. Seems straightforward to me. I suspect that is being extremely kind to Rovers. We have form for this kind of thing. Even now it seems as if we are playing for time. Why are further negotiations needed when we were told it was all agreed in principle, before we pulled the plug? We sabotage our own transfer deals. 1 Quote
Miller11 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Loyalty bonus. Rovers really are dumb Any loyalty bonus would also have been significantly less 6 weeks ago before we gave him that improved deal. 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 If nothing else I'm looking forward to GB's appearance before the press to explain all. 1 Quote
rob_of_the_rovers Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, Rover8T4 said: As if they've given him a new contract where they're liable to pay him millions of he gets sold, and then sold him a few weeks later 4 Quote
bluebruce Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 8 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: McGuire is bonkers if he's opened up talks again with the club that had him travelling to Sheffield this morning cos they reneged on the deal. His agent must be desperate for a pay out. I'd be telling my client to head back to Orlando and get his head down. Tbf it's also possible we just don't know exactly what happened and it's been exaggerated. Nearing transfer deadline it gets very easy for stories to be blown out of proportion. 'We can't confirm it until Wharton is finalised' can quickly snowball into 'the deal has collapsed mid-flight' once a bit of Chinese whispering has reached the clickbait peddlers. 1 Quote
Rover8T4 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 Probably why we are back in talks with his representatives as Wharton's bonus has left us with less than anticipated. Put everything together and it makes sense. Wharton deal taking longer than usual, And McGuire deal was already agreed in principal Quote
davulsukur Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, Rover8T4 said: I didn't know this but how many different ways can people come up with to make me hate football. Is there any point where these fuckers don't get paid? They now get paid to leave a club because they didn't ask to. Jesus H Corbett. (Note: Wharton isn't a fucker) 2 Quote
windymiller7 Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 No body else seem to think it's quite funny that everything now seems to be 'back on' with McGuire since shortly after that Orlando City guy posted a brief history of Venky's reign? Venky's being shamed across the US, that won't have gone down too well I imagine. I thought it was brilliant, but we need to make sure that, even if the transfer is completed, all that stuff just doesn't disappear. 8 Quote
Tim Southampton Rover Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 A loyalty bonus wouldn't put on hold any move. If the move is wanted by both clubs then it can just be given in instalments over X amount of years or another way rather than in one lump sum. Sounds like the Wharton deal has been agreed and ready to be signed off. Probably just waiting for our lot to sort it's mess out before officially confirming. 2 Quote
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